Re: Update #1 [RFC: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs)]

2008-01-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 09:55:19AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > > Why can't we manage the DEP list just like the rest in a VCS ? A VCS > > > commit is atomic. :) > > To avoid religious was on which VCS to choose :-) > Just use svn for that part.

Re: Update #1 [RFC: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs)]

2008-01-17 Thread Hubert Chathi
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:36:39 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 09:18:47PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> > (²) And this mail it's just there as a very unbureaucratic and >> light > mechanism for obtaining a DEP number. Why can't we manage >> the DEP l

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2008-01-17 Thread Felipe Sateler
Forwarding a message from Sven Luther On Thursday 17 January 2008 13:33:36 Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 12:53:35PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: > > Sven Luther wrote: > > > What about having a centralized email address where to send original > > > proposals, and which forward the p

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2008-01-17 Thread Felipe Sateler
Sven Luther wrote: > > What about having a centralized email address where to send original > proposals, and which forward the proposal to the appropriate list, after > having incremented the proposal number ? > > This is already what we do for bug reports, so it should not cause a > major probl

Re: Update #1 [RFC: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs)]

2008-01-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
(we're getting offtopic here) On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, MJ Ray wrote: > > Based on the number of repositories hosted on Alioth. And on day-to-day > > work within many Debian teams. > > What's the attraction of hosting git on Alioth? I've had one request > to clone from my own public server there, but

Re: Update #1 [RFC: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs)]

2008-01-17 Thread MJ Ray
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, MJ Ray wrote: [on svn "most widely used VCS within Debian."] > > Based on what numbers? Does "within Debian" mean on d.o hosts? That > > would ignore much dVCS use. > > Based on the number of repositories hosted on Alioth. And on d

Re: Update #1 [RFC: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs)]

2008-01-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, MJ Ray wrote: > > Just use svn for that part. It's by far the most widely used VCS within > > Debian. > > Based on what numbers? Does "within Debian" mean on d.o hosts? That > would ignore much dVCS use. Based on the number of repositories hosted on Alioth. And on day-to-da

Re: Update #1 [RFC: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs)]

2008-01-17 Thread MJ Ray
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > > Why can't we manage the DEP list just like the rest in a VCS ? A VCS > > > commit is atomic. :) > > > > To avoid religious was on which VCS to choose :-) > > Just use svn for that part. It's by far th

Re: Update #1 [RFC: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs)]

2008-01-17 Thread Cyril Brulebois
On 17/01/2008, David Nusinow wrote: > Would it be possible to add an RSS feed to the DEP with diffs or the > changelog? It'd be nice to be able to track these from a distance > without following the various mailing lists. I'm sure I'm not the only > one overburdened by the number of lists he's carr

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2008-01-17 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On to, 2008-01-17 at 11:21 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > What about having a centralized email address where to send original > proposals, and which forward the proposal to the appropriate list, after > having incremented the proposal number ? This would work, and has no technical problems, b

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2008-01-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
D]> Cc: debian-project@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Update #1 [RFC: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs)] From: Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 09:36:39AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 09:18:47PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

Re: Update #1 [RFC: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs)]

2008-01-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > Why can't we manage the DEP list just like the rest in a VCS ? A VCS > > commit is atomic. :) > > To avoid religious was on which VCS to choose :-) Just use svn for that part. It's by far the most widely used VCS within Debian. And git-svn works

Re: Update #1 [RFC: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs)]

2008-01-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 09:18:47PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > (²) And this mail it's just there as a very unbureaucratic and light > > mechanism for obtaining a DEP number. > Why can't we manage the DEP list just like the rest in a VCS ? A VCS > commit is atomic. :) To avoid religious w

Re: Update #1 [RFC: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs)]

2008-01-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 09:55:29PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > First, as one of the drivers, I'd like to explicitly say that I like and > approve of the changes dato made to the draft in his dep0.dato branch, > and the comments he's had on the discussion so far. Ack. Moreover for future changes

Re: Update #1 [RFC: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs)]

2008-01-16 Thread David Nusinow
First off, thanks to all of you for pushing this forward, I think it's a great idea. On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 07:50:27PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > History of changes, and VCSen in general (open front) > > > Lucas Nussbaum suggests that the document incl

Re: Update #1 [RFC: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs)]

2008-01-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Adeodato Simó wrote: > OK, thanks all for your encouraging feedback so far! For driving this > discussion, I think it's going to work best if I manage to make regular > updates of the status of the discussion, like this one. As in, > mentioning the actions I'm taking based on f

Re: Update #1 [RFC: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs)]

2008-01-16 Thread Lars Wirzenius
First, as one of the drivers, I'd like to explicitly say that I like and approve of the changes dato made to the draft in his dep0.dato branch, and the comments he's had on the discussion so far. On ke, 2008-01-16 at 19:50 +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > Assuming that the number of DEPs will be si

Update #1 [RFC: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs)]

2008-01-16 Thread Adeodato Simó
OK, thanks all for your encouraging feedback so far! For driving this discussion, I think it's going to work best if I manage to make regular updates of the status of the discussion, like this one. As in, mentioning the actions I'm taking based on feedback, and summarizing the discussion so far on