* Ean Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-25 12:50]:
> When you vote, remember, code is more important than commercials.
I guess you mean "if" here given that you have neither voted this nor
last year.
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[Martin Schulze]
> How to you fund the time people need to travel to and stay at the
> meetings?
Until now, we haven't. As I said, those already investing lots of
time into Debian tend to get their travel and lodging expenses covered
to join the meetings in questions. Experience have shown that
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
>
> [Vaidhyanathan Mayilrangam Gopalan]
> > If we do, then we are essentially saying that only those developers
> > who are rich enough (in terms of money, time , ability ) to travel
> > are only ones who are worthy of contributing. It has got nothing to
> > do with the
[Vaidhyanathan Mayilrangam Gopalan]
> If we do, then we are essentially saying that only those developers
> who are rich enough (in terms of money, time , ability ) to travel
> are only ones who are worthy of contributing. It has got nothing to
> do with the amount of work they are putting into D
I believe Ean is not arguing about what is the most effective way. He
runs his own s/w development company and he knows the value of face to
face meetings.
The point is, we as Debian team, should not depend on physical meetings
as a way to conduct business. If we do, then we are essentially saying
On Sunday 27 March 2005 22:10, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> Yes there should be accessible documentation for what all the teams are
> upto and electronic systems could automate a lot of that. But eventually
> someone has to monitor the electronic systems and then we are right back
> to square one. Onl
On Sunday 27 March 2005 02:10 pm, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> Employees maybe not, but the majority of the work in Debian is done by
> people who probably spend 20+ hours a week on it and if that's not
> professional it certainly isn't what I'd call amateur either.
>
> Then we have many DDs who just b
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> I disagree. The bulk of work in Debian is not done by employees of
> professional Debian service companies that regularly attend required events.
>
Employees maybe not, but the majority of the work in Debian is done by
people who probably spend 20+ hou
On Friday 25 March 2005 8:50 pm, Steve Langasek wrote:
> That would be nice. Which did you just do? What makes a cabal -- a group
> of people meeting in person to sort out a problem, or a group of people
> making noise about the fact that people met in person to work on problems?
>
> The leap fro
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 12:50:52PM -0600, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> I hope we can focus our group on discrete systems instead of cliques and
> cabals.
That would be nice. Which did you just do? What makes a cabal -- a group
of people meeting in person to sort out a problem, or a group of people
m
On Friday 25 March 2005 5:49 pm, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> We already have a two class society. (But TINC...yet)
http://tinc.debian.net/
> >. Create several "key gatherings" a year and only a "professional
> > Debianer" will be able to keep up.
>
> This is already the case even with (or probabl
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> The Vancouver Prospectus, SCUD and "small teams" have given me pause for
> thought. On the surface, it seems that there cannot be much wrong with
> Debianers gathering together physically to talk and make decisions about the
> direction of the operating
|| On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:50:52 -0600
|| Ean Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ean> However, I have grave concerns about placing emphasis on face-to-face
ean> meetings as a methodology for moving the project forward. Could we
ean> accidentally create a "two class" society in the proces
I sent this to debian-vote initially since it is about platforms. Maybe
discussion belongs in -project.
The Vancouver Prospectus, SCUD and "small teams" have given me pause for
thought. On the surface, it seems that there cannot be much wrong with
Debianers gathering together physically to
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