Re: Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-04-05 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Hi Tollef, ]] Filipus Klutiero Hi, > Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > ]] Filipus Klutiero > > > > > It is concerning that we no longer receive enough hardware donations > > > to meet our needs. I can only encourage these improvements to > > > donations pages. Specifically, if we lack

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-04-05 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 09:19:50PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Neil McGovern writes: > > > For reference, I'm in contact with the Raspberry Pi folk, who are keen > > to do things with Debian. If anyone wants hardware, drop me a mail! > > Are you in a position to press for hardware specification t

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-04-05 Thread Ben Finney
Neil McGovern writes: > For reference, I'm in contact with the Raspberry Pi folk, who are keen > to do things with Debian. If anyone wants hardware, drop me a mail! Are you in a position to press for hardware specification that will allow wholly free-software Debian on Raspberry Pi? My understan

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-04-05 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 03:21:11PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:40 AM, dE . wrote: > > > Maybe someone from the UK can provide a Raspberry PI. > > That probably wouldn't be useful. According to folks on IRC, the armhf > buildds are i.MX53 QuickStart boards, they're quite a

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-04-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:40 AM, dE . wrote: > Maybe someone from the UK can provide a Raspberry PI. That probably wouldn't be useful. According to folks on IRC, the armhf buildds are i.MX53 QuickStart boards, they're quite a bit faster than the Pi and our armel buildd's are 1Ghz ARMV5 Marvell de

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-04-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Filipus Klutiero Hi, > Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > ]] Filipus Klutiero > > > > > It is concerning that we no longer receive enough hardware donations > > > to meet our needs. I can only encourage these improvements to > > > donations pages. Specifically, if we lack any significant hardware,

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-04-04 Thread dE .
On 04/02/12 22:59, Filipus Klutiero wrote: Thanks for this report Luca. Thanks to the whole DSA for having this meeting, and for your tremendous work in general. Luca Filipozzi wrote: Historically, Debian's hardware requirements have been met through the generous donation of new and used equip

Re: Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-04-04 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Thank you Tollef, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Filipus Klutiero > It is concerning that we no longer receive enough hardware donations > to meet our needs. I can only encourage these improvements to > donations pages. Specifically, if we lack any significant hardware, > let's add it tohttp://w

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-04-03 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On sam., 2012-03-31 at 15:54 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > That > way, US Debian Developers could ignore the whole export control issue > because they were uploading it to a host still in the US and the project > handled the notification automatically on their behalf when the packages > went to our

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-04-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Filipus Klutiero > It is concerning that we no longer receive enough hardware donations > to meet our needs. I can only encourage these improvements to > donations pages. Specifically, if we lack any significant hardware, > let's add it to http://www.debian.org/misc/hardware_wanted.en.html I

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-04-02 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Thanks for this report Luca. Thanks to the whole DSA for having this meeting, and for your tremendous work in general. Luca Filipozzi wrote: Historically, Debian's hardware requirements have been met through the generous donation of new and used equipment by individuals and organizations. This

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-04-01 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 12803 March 1977, Russ Allbery wrote: > I think some of this has since gotten simpler and I heard some rumors that > the US was giving up on even the notification requirement for export of > open source software, but I haven't been following the details closely. We don't send the notices to th

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-31 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Thanks for the explanation; makes me curious how other distros/projects handle this? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAA77j2BoJ0oYsiHGYXeZLh-vpUGshi

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-31 Thread Russ Allbery
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe writes: > I'm curious why ftp-master needs to be hosted in the US. > (please CC me) Historically, the US has obnoxious export control restrictions which, due to a lawsuit by Dan Bernstein, were forced into being partially waived for open source software on free speech groun

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-31 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
I'm curious why ftp-master needs to be hosted in the US. (please CC me) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAA77j2A29k=gt5yez109extvzzv1nnt730bp6u9rgj

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 04:40:47PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > It'll be of the form of a mail, once a year where you put an X next to > the group memberships you'd like to keep and send it back, gpg-signed, > or similar, so I don't really think we'll bother with differentiating > between danger

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] "Thijs Kinkhorst" > So I would advise to only make an effort to 'clean up' groups that have > sufficiently 'dangerous' consequences attached to them. It'll be of the form of a mail, once a year where you put an X next to the group memberships you'd like to keep and send it back, gpg-signed, o

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] "Thijs Kinkhorst" > The collab-maint repository has been available to all DD's for a long > while. We've been trying to get the secure-testing repository writable for > all DD's, unfortunately the Alioth admins didn't have time to respond to > that request yet, but the wish is certainly there.

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:18:51AM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > The quick summary -- donating to Debian is NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT COULD > BE... and simplicity and "accessibility" was the point of my > suggestion to make donations, of different caliber, easy for anyone. Yes. I completely agree.

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
NB CCing SPI treasurer as a contact listed on the donations page (haven't spotted any point of contact on Debian's donation page) for possible comments On Thu, 22 Mar 2012, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 05:34:27PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > > - automated regula

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 05:34:27PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > - automated regular (e.g. monthly) donations via paypal > (e.g. how http://accessiblecomputingfoundation.org does it) That is already possible (although I'm not sure about the paypal part): when donating to SPI via clickandple

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-21 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
regarding donations: I am wondering -- is there significant additional bureaucratic/infrastructural burden of adding additional relatively easy to "engage" into lines for "micro-donations", e.g. - automated regular (e.g. monthly) donations via paypal (e.g. how http://accessiblecomputingfoundati

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:06:56AM +0100, Arno Töll wrote: > Having that said, I wonder if we should discuss the possibility to > pre-configure browser's search engines in order to provide Debian some > income by referrals. > > I don't think that's a bad thing and doable without much effort but >

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-21 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, March 21, 2012 13:16, Clint Adams wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:07:30AM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: >> So I would advise to only make an effort to 'clean up' groups that have >> sufficiently 'dangerous' consequences attached to them. > > Then logically it would follow that the ones

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-21 Thread Clint Adams
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:07:30AM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > So I would advise to only make an effort to 'clean up' groups that have > sufficiently 'dangerous' consequences attached to them. Then logically it would follow that the ones that don't should be gid 800 instead. -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-21 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, March 20, 2012 09:06, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >> Shouldn't the various teams handling the group take care of managing >> them? Do they currently fail at that? > > I think we can say that yes, they generally fail at asking for people to > be removed from groups. I'm still a member of webwml

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-20 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Tollef Fog Heen [2012-03-20 09:06:50 CET]: > ]] Yves-Alexis Perez > > So that means something like a signed mail based “shell-knocking”? DD > > would need to send a gpg-signed mail to (re)enable a shell on a chosen > > machine before he can use it? > > That's one possible way, we might also ma

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-20 Thread Arno Töll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 20.03.2012 02:23, Luca Filipozzi wrote: > [,.] If we are to be successful in implementing a five-year > refresh cycle, we will need improve our philanthropic support. We > need to revamp and probably merge our sponsorship and donations > pages

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-20 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Yves-Alexis Perez > You don't speak at all of the virtualization solution. Afair xen is > currently already used on part of the infrastructure. Is it the > preferred choice? Did you consider the use of containers / “lightweight > virtualization”? We're mostly using KVM nowadays and I think we

Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo

2012-03-20 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar., 2012-03-20 at 01:23 +, Luca Filipozzi wrote: > Comrades! > > We just finished a very productive Debian System Administration team > sprint in Oslo, Norway. First, thanks for the amazing job you do. > Hosting & Virtualization > > Virtualization has come of a