hly basis... using the
info on this linked page
https://www.spi-inc.org/donations/
Thanks in advance for your time & reply
Best Regards
Peter Valentin
Hi Peter,
Am 03.04.24 um 15:09 schrieb Peter Valentin:
I'd like to continue to support you
BUT I do NOT want to continue to support Paypal !
@ https://www.debian.org/donations.en.html
one is mislead to assume it is possible to donate withOUT using Paypal
if one goes via »Click & Pledge«
BUT »Cl
Hiya
I'd like to continue to support you
BUT I do NOT want to continue to support Paypal !
@ https://www.debian.org/donations.en.html
one is mislead to assume it is possible to donate withOUT using Paypal
if one goes via »Click & Pledge«
BUT »Click & Pledge« is done via Paypal - in a shadow-man
Adam Borowski writes:
> I consider Bitcoin to still be far less repulsive than both the
> mainstream banking system and para-banks like Paypal.
Likewise, I think Bitcoin is – while not perfect by any stretch – at
least as worthwhile as PayPal for donations to a worldwide community
organi
>>>>> "Ben" == Ben Hutchings writes:
>> And why would you refuse a way to submit donations that's
>> convenient for some donors?
Ben> [...]
Ben> Mozilla tried it and the result was a net negative:
Ben>
https://fundraising.
On Wed, 2017-10-25 at 16:15 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 01:33:09PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Elise Wood writes ("Bitcoin donations"):
> > > Have you considered adding an address for bitcoin donations? Would you?
> >
> &
* Adam Borowski:
> I consider Bitcoin to still be far less repulsive than both the mainstream
> banking system and para-banks like Paypal.
Many countries have a long tradition of banking cooperatives, which
could provide a third option.
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 01:33:09PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Elise Wood writes ("Bitcoin donations"):
> > Have you considered adding an address for bitcoin donations? Would you?
>
> After reading _Attack of the 50-foot blockchain_ by David Gerard, my
> (previo
Elise Wood writes ("Bitcoin donations"):
> Have you considered adding an address for bitcoin donations? Would you?
After reading _Attack of the 50-foot blockchain_ by David Gerard, my
(previously merely rather sceptical) attitude to Bitcoin has
hardenened.
IMO Debian should not
Have you considered adding an address for bitcoin donations? Would you?
On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 01:32:14PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> "Yao Wei (魏銘廷)" wrote:
> > As OCF is now a trusted organization in Debian [1], I'd like to ask if it is
> > okay for OCF to receive donations on behalf of Debian Project [2]. And, if
> > so,
> >
"Yao Wei (魏銘廷)" wrote:
> As OCF is now a trusted organization in Debian [1], I'd like to ask if it is
> okay for OCF to receive donations on behalf of Debian Project [2]. And, if
> so,
> how to donate and specify the donation for Debian Project. The monthly
> prog
Hi,
As OCF is now a trusted organization in Debian [1], I'd like to ask if it is
okay for OCF to receive donations on behalf of Debian Project [2]. And, if so,
how to donate and specify the donation for Debian Project. The monthly program
(300壯士) [3] doesn't have a place for spec
also sprach Paul Wise [2015-03-16 12:52 +0100]:
> Re financial donations, I'd personally like to see more focus on
> something like having 20k or more individuals donating $10 a year
> and most of them listed on contributors.d.o, as opposed to turning
> Debian into more
as
writeable only by the web team.
There is also the DSA wishlist but half of it is obsolete since zack
created sources.d.n.
https://dsa.debian.org/hardware-wishlist/
Looking at my hardware-donations@d.o archive, we've been offered
mostly hardware that we can't use for one reason or an
The pending partners inquiries are all of
> that nature.
Well, this is indeed a very hard subject, and also includes hardware
donations.
There's the easy case, which is when Debian needs something and then
there's demand and presumably a market price (hardware donations and
hosting).
If
Hi Anthony,
On 08/01/15 at 15:51 -0800, Anthony Hunter wrote:
> My name is Anthony Hunter and I'm inquiring as to who is the best contact
> to discuss about your donations program?
If you are interested in hardware donations, please see
https://wiki.debian.org/Hardware/Wanted
My name is Anthony Hunter and I'm inquiring as to who is the best contact
to discuss about your donations program?
Thank You,
Anthony
ZipfWorks <http://www.zipfworks.com>
*Business Development Director*
1601 Cloverfield Blvd.
Santa Monica, CA 90404
310-429-9033
e suggested a few years back to accept donations
> via PayPal the main argument against was a possibility of having PayPal
> freeze the account which accepts funds, upon any "suspicious activity".
> I hope that you guys mitigated this possible problem (e.g. via some
> intermediate
oftware,
> including Javascript to make donations. Because of this, most of our
> peer Free Software organization accept Paypal.
> 5) Accepting Paypal does not preclude us from exploring other, new,
> payment processing systems, as long as they allow us to integrate
> with them without usin
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014, Brian Gupta wrote:
> As someone who's pretty heavily involved in fundraising for Debian, I'd like
> to
> express my support for adding Paypal to the list of official methods to donate
> to Debian.
And if I can add a data point, PayPal is already mentioned on the donation
page
number of things that should be made clear:
1) We have no plans to EVER make Paypal the only way to donate to Debian.
2) We don't plan to keep significant funds stored in Paypal.
3) Every Trusted Organization that Debian works with either currently accepts
Paypal, or plans to.
4) Paypal doe
On 17/11/2014 10:15, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 17/11/14 at 16:09 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>>
>>> However, this is not a reason to bounce my email from -www@ to -project@
>>> without making it clear that you did that (by forwarding it instead
On 17/11/14 at 16:09 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
> > However, this is not a reason to bounce my email from -www@ to -project@
> > without making it clear that you did that (by forwarding it instead of
> > bouncing it, for example).
>
> FTR, I
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> However, this is not a reason to bounce my email from -www@ to -project@
> without making it clear that you did that (by forwarding it instead of
> bouncing it, for example).
FTR, I was the one who bounced the message, not David.
--
bye,
instead of
bouncing it, for example).
Now, given that you want to express disagreement about my decision, I
think that you should explain why _you_ think that:
(1) Debian should not list paypal;
(2) This is a serious enough issue to override auditors, who are normally
in charge of managing how De
(resending to -www@, #681501 is now archived)
Hi,
I was asked to look into the question of whether (and how) we should
list Paypal on https://www.debian.org/donations.
I've gone through various discussions about Paypal, including the one on
debconf-team
(http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/me
the website IMHO.
> I was asked to look into the question of whether (and how) we should
> list Paypal on https://www.debian.org/donations.
>
> I've gone through various discussions about Paypal, including the one on
> debconf-team
> (http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/201410
Hi,
Per http://www.spi-inc.org/donations/, PayPal donations may be made through
Network For Good:
https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/ExpressDonation.aspx?ORGID2=11-3390208
Thanks!
Luca
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:39:51PM +0100, Gisela Neira wrote:
> I want to how I can donate Dab
I want to how I can donate Dabian Proyect per paypal..., please...
Thanks,
Gisi
Lars Wirzenius writes ("Re: Proposal #3: Upstream/Debian Project donations
(was: PaySwarm-based donations)"):
> I do, however, want to repeat my point that this kind of thing is likely
> to be quite divisive even outside one distro. Donations from end-users
> are highly lik
On Mi, 19 iun 13, 10:33:42, MJ Ray wrote:
>
> I would prefer a simpler listing of which developers are available for
> hire and which projects they are interested in working on. If that
> could be presented in the PTS, package managers or reportbug, that
> would be great. Would anyone block such
Venture Communism writes:
> So let's get this straight.
>
> Step 1) Ask APT people if it belongs in APT
>
> Get told to go to debian-project list
>
> Step 2) Ask debian-project list if can put in APT
>
> Get told doesn't belong in APT
>
> Step 3) Fix proposal so it's not in APT, goes upstream as a
On Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2013, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> While I am warry, I don't think we should mock or block those wishing to
> build this system to help aid Debian.
While I agree that we should not mock those, I absolutly do think we should
block those
Once motivation is destroyed, it's of
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:45:49PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> Personally, economic incentives have very little to do with why I work on
> Debian. Fundamentally, if I was here for the money, Debian couldn't afford
> me.
Ditto, that's not the issue here - this wouldn't be funding
*develope
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 01:38:08 PM Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:35:36PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > Sorry, I cannot look at this donations proposal but as a deep failure
> > waiting to happen.
>
> While I am warry, I don't think we should m
I'd like to apologize.
"SPI with all its manpower" was a poor attempt at irony. Elsewhere I've tried
to emphasize that I respect and
honor the work people have done on the accounting side intaking donations etc
and generally doing the things people rarely want to
do in a
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:38:08PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
>On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:35:36PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
>> Sorry, I cannot look at this donations proposal but as a deep failure
>> waiting to happen.
>
>While I am warry, I don't think we should mock
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:35:36PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Sorry, I cannot look at this donations proposal but as a deep failure
> waiting to happen.
While I am warry, I don't think we should mock or block those wishing to
build this system to help aid Debian.
Chee
rld-peace
Yeah, right.
Sorry, I cannot look at this donations proposal but as a deep failure
waiting to happen.
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On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> I do, however, want to repeat my point that this kind of thing is likely
> to be quite divisive even outside one distro. Donations from end-users
> are highly likely to go mainly to highly visible projects, such as
> Firefox/I
on less than a
dozen volunteers and some pro-bono advisors. Asking at
http://lists.spi-inc.org/listinfo/spi-general/
how one can help would be useful - I think I'll suggest adding "donations
of work" to its donations page, too!
If accounting for $0.02 of movements takes one person,
Russ Allbery
> More seriously, you really can't understate how much the project felt
> generally burned by the huge Dunc-Tank controversy. I was one of the
> people who thought it was a decent idea at the time, but the outcome was
> far more disruptive than I think it was worth. I think an earli
are cooperatives and into hardware
cooperatives, http://venturecommunism.com is trying to open source the business
models.
- Original Message -
From: MJ Ray
To: debian-project@lists.debian.org
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:33 AM
Subject: Re: PaySwarm-based Debian donations
Toll
Tollef Fog Heen
> Money is a very undemocratic resource, and I believe that tipping (which
> is what I consider small donations based on work done by an individual
> to a single package is) is denigrating and a blight upon the world.
tfheen is not alone. This podcast suggests a co
rable than that.
- Original Message -
From: Stefano Zacchiroli
To: debian-project@lists.debian.org
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:26 AM
Subject: Re: Proposal #3: Upstream/Debian Project donations (was:
PaySwarm-based donations)
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 07:53:42AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wro
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 07:53:42AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> Donations from end-users are highly likely to go mainly to highly
> visible projects, such as Firefox/Iceweasel and LibreOffice.
But doesn't this problem already exist with the status quo?
Let's assume that Fire
like that?
- Original Message -
From: Lars Wirzenius
To: debian-project@lists.debian.org
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: Proposal #3: Upstream/Debian Project donations (was:
PaySwarm-based donations)
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 09:55:11PM -0400, Manu Sporny wrote:
ivate thread about
all the in-kind donations of code that were made (even as this VERY thread was
going on mind you!), here's proof that
I contributed documentation while this thread was going on too:
https://github.com/venturecommunism/meteor-crowdfunder
And I didn't even dismantle it or ma
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 09:55:11PM -0400, Manu Sporny wrote:
> This is a highly re-worked proposal for performing upstream donations
> and donations to the Debian project. Major changes include:
>
> * Debian developers are not allowed to receive any direct monetary
> contributio
Le Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 09:55:11PM -0400, Manu Sporny a écrit :
> This is a highly re-worked proposal for performing upstream donations
> and donations to the Debian project. Major changes include:
>
> * Debian developers are not allowed to receive any direct monetary
> contrib
Venture Communism writes:
> So let's get this straight.
> Step 1) Ask APT people if it belongs in APT
> Get told to go to debian-project list
> Step 2) Ask debian-project list if can put in APT
> Get told doesn't belong in APT
> Step 3) Fix proposal so it's not in APT, goes upstream as asked
lso encourage you to approach the FSF and ask them about this.
Not only are they one of our more prominent upstreams (particularly among
the ones who do have a clear way to take donations and a clear set of
practices for how they use those donations), but they're also likely to
have opinions on
go tell another list
- Original Message -
From: Paul Wise
To: debian-project@lists.debian.org
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: Proposal #3: Upstream/Debian Project donations (was:
PaySwarm-based donations)
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Manu Sporny wro
-distributable :(
Personally I'm betting the vast majority of upstreams in Debian will
have no donation info present and or no way to donate to them. Have
you done any survey of this on hosting sites where there are standard
ways to setup donations - like on sourceforge?
--
bye,
pabs
ht
This is a highly re-worked proposal for performing upstream donations
and donations to the Debian project. Major changes include:
* Debian developers are not allowed to receive any direct monetary
contribution or change the upstream DONATE file in any way.
* The solution isn't specific t
Nikolaus Rath writes:
> Russ Allbery writes:
>> Some of us (myself definitely included) are involved in free software
>> precisely *because* we're strongly anti-capitalist, anti-marketing, and
>> firmly opposed to the economic structures that dominate so much of the
>> rest of life. If your ple
Russ Allbery writes:
> Some of us (myself definitely included) are involved in free software
> precisely *because* we're strongly anti-capitalist, anti-marketing, and
> firmly opposed to the economic structures that dominate so much of the
> rest of life. If your plea is for distributions to act
Martin Owens writes:
> On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 22:00 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> If that's what an upstream is after, they should pick a different
>> software license;
> Non-Commercial terms are non-free. If they want to exclude commercial
> distribution they should not be involved in Free Softw
On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 14:25 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> and I'd be willing to accept that we may need to improve
Yes.
FYI Not my new toy. I'm not affiliated with and have no relation to
payswarm. The technical mechanism isn't as important as the social ones.
M
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a
> programmer, if you can convince a programmer to get involved on your
> behalf, then you are involved. If you are given no opportunity to become
> involved then what's the difference?
I have to ask: are you advocating for the Debian project to support
and/or solicit donations, or are y
On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 22:00 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> If that's what an upstream is after, they should pick a different
> software license;
Non-Commercial terms are non-free. If they want to exclude commercial
distribution they should not be involved in Free Software.
Free as in Freedom, the f
Hi,
I didnt want to participate in this thread anymore (all has been said) but then
I found this new study linked below by chance and found it matching this thread
too well...
On Dienstag, 18. Juni 2013, Brian Gupta wrote:
> What do you think of this recent University Study?
> http://www.dailym
]] Manu Sporny
> On 06/16/2013 06:26 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > OTOH, I think it would be fine to have something at the package level
> > to pass on donations to our upstreams, as well as to ease donating to
> > the Debian project as a whole. See [1,2], already menti
On Tue, June 18, 2013 04:31, Martin Owens wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 19:03 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
>> site requesting user's charity
>
> You mean user's involvement. You don't want users to be invited to
> participate in Debian. Debian isn't elitist and it shouldn't care that
> the tool being
and
I'm getting up to speed) was about socioeconomic class, in that event?
- Original Message -
From: Brian Gupta
To: Martin Owens
Cc: Gunnar Wolf ; Manu Sporny ;
Holger Levsen ; debian-project@lists.debian.org
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: PaySwarm-based Debia
my word for it)
I am Venture Communist of venturecommunism.com. I'm an anarchist.
Very long post but for those interested in capturing the overall essence of
things previously said, I wanted to just address various comments without
putting the authors of the comments alongside them. You can fi
uot;: "USD",
"comment": "Meritora Authority Processing"
}
],
(TL;DR - I (netflux) received <2 cents from Digital Bazaar executives including
Manu Sporny for content that was worth less than that to me. I also took the
free penny promo from http:/
distribution and upstream. This may not be the case for distributions
that are explicitly targetting and marketing to a mass audience, but
that's not Debian's niche.
Also, I'll say that, as a free software *user*, this is what I expect from
free software. I don't expect to be
On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 21:18 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> how Debian is "in the way"
Debian takes code from websites with donation buttons, economic
incentive options, kickstarter updates, support contracts, developer
sponsorships, programs and projects of all kinds and general invitations
to parti
Martin Owens writes:
> The case was stated, it wasn't made.
Then we'll agree to disagree. But I'll point out that the status quo is
to not do this. I believe the onus is on you and others who agree with
you to be convincing, not for me to convince you.
> It's that social weight and influence
On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 04:28 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> Many DDs and DMs work as consultants or contractors. If a user wants
> to use their money as a tool for Debian development, they should hire
> one or more of these developers to work on the specific things the
> user is interested in.
Kick
On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 19:44 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> They are not the same thing at all. The social effects
> are almost completely different.
It's not a false equivalence. Participation is not just about being a
programmer, if you can convince a programmer to get involved on your
behalf, the
itist and it shouldn't care that
> the tool being deployed is money rather than time.
But donations are a gift, not a tool. You can't choose what the
recipient does with a donation, and I doubt there are many donors
willing to pay a few hundred £/$/€ per day for a DD or DM to work on
w
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Martin Owens wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 19:03 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
>> site requesting user's charity
>
> You mean user's involvement. You don't want users to be invited to
> participate in Debian. Debian isn't elitist and it shouldn't care that
> the tool
ations and goals that many
Debian contributors have seen in the project.
Right now, we have a (sometimes uneasy) compromise in which those who do
not feel that way about money can pursue donations privately or seek out
funding models that align with their view of the free software world, and
the pro
On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 19:03 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> site requesting user's charity
You mean user's involvement. You don't want users to be invited to
participate in Debian. Debian isn't elitist and it shouldn't care that
the tool being deployed is money rather than time.
Your argument invites
not oppose people getting paid for their
Debian work, Debian does not *care* on how it is done.
If maintainer $foo wants to put a donations link (as some have done,
for example, using Tumblr), she can do it. If a user wants to donate
to the project, he can do it as it is now. If another user wants t
Philip Hands dijo [Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 09:47:18AM +0100]:
> Manu Sporny writes:
> ...
> That is an assumption that I happen to think is completely unfounded.
>
> IBM tested various ways of incentivising coders decades ago -- almost
> (...)
> We tried DuncTank -- I'd contend that the net amount o
Le Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:20:47PM -0400, Manu Sporny a écrit :
>
> The files are composed together to suggest where donations should go to
> the sender. They are composed in this order:
>
> 1. Upstream project's DONATE file.
> 2. Package maintainers DONATE file.
&g
On 06/16/2013 06:26 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> OTOH, I think it would be fine to have something at the package level
> to pass on donations to our upstreams, as well as to ease donating to
> the Debian project as a whole. See [1,2], already mentioned by Paul
> Wise in his initial
On 06/16/2013 05:05 AM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> You suggest that package maintainers get to suggest where donations
> go. There's two glaring problems there.
What about making it impossible for the package maintainers to have any
say on where the money goes, then? What if it is solel
to highly visible projects, regardless of
> the effort required to package them, while people working on vital
> but largely invisible infrastructure will get nothing much -- how
> good is that going to be for the project?
Did you see the proposal to just send all donations to the Debian
On 06/16/2013 04:16 AM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Sonntag, 16. Juni 2013, Manu Sporny wrote:
>> Thanks to everyone that has participated in the discussion thus
>> far. :) I think there have been a number of solid concerns and
>> issues raised, which I'm going to try and wrap into a proposal
>> b
* Manu Sporny:
> As an aside, PaySwarm is currency agnostic. The commercial
> implementation of it (Meritora) deals with USD today, has plans for Euro
> (and a few other national currencies) within a year, and Bitcoin shortly
> after that.
For the Euro, we already have the SEPA system, which is v
On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 13:25 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> If you're seriously attempting to equate "I'll buy you a beer if you
> help me" with "corrupt bribery", then I suspect the net effect is
> going to be that people stop reading the rest of your argument.
It's not serious, it's absurdism. A
On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 07:59 -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 09:47 +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> > The idea that it's currently impossible to fund Free Software is
> > nonsense. See IBM, HP, Canonical, my customers, anyone that's ever
> > said to a DD (or anyone else for that matte
On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 09:47 +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> The idea that it's currently impossible to fund Free Software is
> nonsense. See IBM, HP, Canonical, my customers, anyone that's ever
> said to a DD (or anyone else for that matter): "I'll buy you a beer if
> you help me package this..."
The
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:05:48AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> You suggest that package maintainers get to suggest where donations go.
> There's two glaring problems there. First, it disregards all the great
> things people do to make Debian better that are _not_ about packaging
&
think it might help simplify the donations goal by framing it in the
> following way:
>
> Ultimately, where to send a donation is the decision of the person or
> organization doing the donation (the benefactor).
>
> Package maintainers, software developers, and project organizations ca
Manu Sporny writes:
...
> With respect to Debian-packaged software, if we address both issues,
> the benefit is that more resources can be directed toward Free
> Software development.
That is an assumption that I happen to think is completely unfounded.
IBM tested various ways of incentivising c
On Sonntag, 16. Juni 2013, Manu Sporny wrote:
> Thanks to everyone that has participated in the discussion thus far. :)
> I think there have been a number of solid concerns and issues raised,
> which I'm going to try and wrap into a proposal below.
and then you continue to ignore these concerns an
On Sb, 15 iun 13, 21:38:24, Manu Sporny wrote:
>
> Yes, we probably don't want to create a Mos Eisley in Debian. However,
> knowing that you can go somewhere to hire Debian developers to fix
> issues that you're having with the system would be very helpful for
> companies (like ours and the ones w
Thanks to everyone that has participated in the discussion thus far. :)
I think there have been a number of solid concerns and issues raised,
which I'm going to try and wrap into a proposal below.
I think it might help simplify the donations goal by framing it in the
following way:
Ultim
On 06/15/2013 02:18 AM, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 12:25:26AM -0400, Joey Hess a écrit :
>> Charles Plessy wrote:
>>> In the case of Debian, I share with others the concern of having
>>> the packages as a source of revenue
>>
>> How about making fixed bugs a source of revenue
han make ourselves dependant to the
> project that would be currently paying for our bills.
I see, good point. So your opinion is that something like a
bounty/crowdfunding mechanism would be more helpful than a donation system?
> Moreover, some of our upstreams who are already collecting donat
, …). It can't be my job as the
> maintainer¹ to rate the contribution of everyone even only remotely
> involved to decide who is getting, who isn't and how much exactly. (¹
> which I am not, but lets keep it simple here)
Why wouldn't you, as maintainer, just say that all
On 06/14/2013 06:50 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Anyone can locate a particular Debian contributor and wire them 15
> Bitcoin. No need for Debian to support that.
I don't think you mean 'anyone'. I think you mean 'a highly skilled
programmer that understands how open source software is built an
place might make this
> more common / easier to make look "official".
I don't quite understand. I thought your concern was preventing that
sort of behavior, not condoning it?
That is, this is my read from the community so far:
People holding patches for ransom seems to be bad fo
On 06/14/2013 02:54 PM, Scott Howard wrote:
> As a member of the bitcoin team in debian, I also see how easy it
> could be in the future to semi-anonymously receive payment from and
> to anywhere in the world for such work, and that this may already be
> going on already in Debian or other distr
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