Re: Assisting with NEW queue backlog (was: What is going wrongwith NEW?)

2009-04-17 Thread Joe Smith
"Steve Langasek" wrote in message news:20090308040721.ga16...@dario.dodds.net... On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 12:53:07PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: I still do not understand why Debian can redistribute any non-reviewed source package through people.debian.org or vcs.debian.org, but would have

Re: Assisting with NEW queue backlog (was: What is going wrong with NEW?)

2009-03-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 12:53:07PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > I still do not understand why Debian can redistribute any non-reviewed > source package through people.debian.org or vcs.debian.org, but would have > legal problems of letting persons read the incoming queue. ftp-master is (delibera

Re: Assisting with NEW queue backlog (was: What is going wrong with NEW?)

2009-03-07 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 11:25:16AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 11:12:58AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > I do not know, maybe the core of the problem is not whether the packages are > > available, but who takes the responsability to make them available : I > > thin

Re: Assisting with NEW queue backlog

2009-03-07 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 11:12:58AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >> I do not know, maybe the core of the problem is not whether the packages are >> available, but who takes the responsability to make them available : I think >>

Re: Assisting with NEW queue backlog

2009-03-07 Thread Florian Weimer
* Wouter Verhelst: > This will never happen, for legal reasons (unless you want us to set up > a new non-US repository). Part of the requirements in doing the > crypto-to-main transition was that uploaded packages would not be made > available for download until some steps were taken first. Excep

Re: Assisting with NEW queue backlog (was: What is going wrong with NEW?)

2009-03-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 11:12:58AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > I do not know, maybe the core of the problem is not whether the packages are > available, but who takes the responsability to make them available : I think I > remember that it was asked and refused that they can be downloaded from t

Re: Assisting with NEW queue backlog (was: What is going wrong with NEW?)

2009-03-07 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 01:24:20PM +0900, Paul Wise a écrit : > > Unless you are in the ftpteam group, you won't be able to access the > packages in NEW: Hmmm… the Tyranny of Unix Permissions[1] :( Anyway, many packages provide other means of access (VCS, mentors.d.n, personal repository…). How

Re: Assisting with NEW queue backlog

2009-03-06 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Ben Finney wrote: Paul Wise writes: Unless you are in the ftpteam group, you won't be able to access the packages in NEW: For the record, this does of course make sense. A big part of the point to the NEW queue is to check whether it's legal for the Debian project to redistribute these works

Re: Assisting with NEW queue backlog

2009-03-05 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Wise writes: > Unless you are in the ftpteam group, you won't be able to access the > packages in NEW: For the record, this does of course make sense. A big part of the point to the NEW queue is to check whether it's legal for the Debian project to redistribute these works; making them publ

Re: Assisting with NEW queue backlog (was: What is going wrong with NEW?)

2009-03-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > I do not know, maybe the core of the problem is not whether the packages are > available, but who takes the responsability to make them available : I think I > remember that it was asked and refused that they can be downloaded from the > ft

Re: Assisting with NEW queue backlog (was: What is going wrong with NEW?)

2009-03-05 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 12:49:40PM +1100, Ben Finney a écrit : > Charles Plessy writes: > > > The packages are on merkel.debian.org in the > > /org/ftp.debian.org/queue/new/ directory. Since they are not > > accessible on http://ftp-master.debian.org, I guess that we are not > > allowed to commun

Assisting with NEW queue backlog (was: What is going wrong with NEW?)

2009-03-05 Thread Ben Finney
Charles Plessy writes: > speaking as somebody who contributed ~10 packages to the load, I > would like to help to clear the queue. I have no pretention about > being able to accept packages, but will try to browse some new ones > this week-end and send a few patches for their debian/copyright fil