x fewer jobs each, mostly
seem like repos we might expect to be under intense development.
Probably the computer resource usage there is more proportionate to
the humanm effort input.
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d probably find it within our project.
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ange is one that's on-topic.
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use taking on toxicity is by definition political.
I wish we could get *better* at doing politics. If we did it better,
we would have much a nicer environment *and* we would probably spend a
lot less emotional energy on the politics, overall.
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Gerardo Ballabio writes ("Re: a Constitutional interpretation question"):
> Ian Jackson wrote:
> > I'm not sure this cleanup is a useful use of our time.
> > There are more fundamental problems.
>
> We've just been having a several-dozen-messages-long threa
G. Branden Robinson writes ("Re: a Constitutional interpretation question (was:
Why Debian is dying)"):
> At 2025-04-09T14:21:56+0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > In practice, I radically underestimated the willingness of more
> > neurotypical people to perform the
at some point as a way to add
non-normative explanatory text. See Appendix B.
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git histories, by increasing dgit adoption, and, eventually, deploying
tag2upload.
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casual reader isn't
going to scroll through and skimread many pages of what they will
probably think is an irrelevant document.
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[1] I do it myself: src:dgit contains the source code for the
server-side. But the deployed instance is not running from an
installed copy of dgit-infrastructure
Bill Allombert writes ("Re: Support for non-free-firmware in project webpages"):
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 11:41:10AM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Would an MR to be more explicit about the precise code location be
> > welcome?
>
> Actually I prefer bug reports
n.org/popularity-contest-team/popularity-contest";
> Popularity-contest project by Avery Pennarun, Bill Allombert and Petter
Reinholdtsen.
+ This page generated by https://salsa.debian.org/popularity-contest-team/popularity-contest/-/blob/master/examples/bin/popcon.pl";>examples/bi
Felix Lechner writes ("Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight
Israel not the DC20 Team"):
> Hi Ian,
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 3:50 AM Ian Jackson
> wrote:
> >
> > The BDS movement is not antisemitic.
>
> Please have a look at this repor
Ansgar writes ("Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel
not the DC20 Team"):
> I think the announcement by the organizers framed the conference as
> being organized specifically to support the BDS movement, a movement
> that is uncontroversially seen as antisemitic. They cou
Tollef Fog Heen writes ("Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development
task"):
> Ian Jackson:
> > Such a small, essentially honorary, contribution wouldn't distort our
> > volunteer setup, and don't need the levels of serious review and
> > enga
he levels of serious review and
engagement that a larger amount does. But it would act as a tangible
way to express that we would like to see something done and might
encourage others.
We could afford to make at least dozens of such honorary contributions
a year.
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ay people for their
> time. I think that crowdfunding the m68k GCC task could work.
I absolutely agree with this.
John, please let us know if you (or someone else) tries to do this
via crowdfunding. I promise to contribute.
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Sam Hartman writes ("Debian and Non-Free Services"):
> I'm trying to move a thread from -devel.
>
> Ian Jackson responded [1] to part of a consensus discussion on Git
> recommendations. I had said that I think we recommend against the use
> of non-free services
Holger Levsen writes ("Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group"):
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:22:35PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > I'm not sure why you think this isn't a thing that can be delegated ?
>
> mostly because it's very unusual, us
implication of "delegate" is that these are powers of the DPL.
Looking at powers of the DPL:
5 Project Leader
5.1 Powers
(5) Propose draft General Resolutions and amendments.
I'm not sure why you think this isn't a thing that can be delegated ?
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g this is not a new form of scam email. I haven't seen
one like this so I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt. James, if
this is genuine, thanks for your efforts and sorry to be so
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Paul Wise writes ("Re: Upstream metadata to help our users contribute back to
projects we redistribute."):
> https://wiki.debian.org/UpstreamMetadata
Alex Muntada writes ("Re: Upstream metadata to help our users contribute back
to projects we redistribute."):
> We use debian/upstream/metadata in
ful than for just perl packages.
Yes. I think "dgit clone" should set up a remote for this
automatically. (The information is useful for a lot more than
contributing back: having the upstream git history, where it can be
found, is often useful for bugfixing, etc.)
What does pkg-perl-t
adable
> comments, are part of the preferred form for modification - but those
> don't normally have any copyright license granted (I certainly didn't
> put this email under a copyright license!) so they are non-free.
So that interpretation of the PFM is not compatible with upstream&#x
ressure on
> people you disagree with.
That was not my intention, but now that you point it out, I can see
that this is an obvious effect/interpretation.
> Please, don't do that unless absolutely
> necessary, you can always BCC.
I will try to follow your advice, sorry.
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least the UK. See for example Equality Act 2010 Part II Chapter 2,
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escribe requires a mandatory access control system
> (SELinux and AppArmor are two popular choices).
I don't think this is correct. For traffic originating with local
processes, iptables rules can select on uid and gid. But this
question belongs on -user.
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to that it was not something that would have been possible
for someone without very significant standing in the project; possibly
it was only possible for the DPL.
Frankly, the idea that it was not an initiative of the DPL seems to me
to have been an artificial distinction, contrived to allow it to go
k these things should be dealt with in their
areas of responsibility (specifically, before or in the absence of a
specific authoritative answer from that team on the issue in
question). That might be illuminating.
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to possible review by eg release or ftp team,
etc. But, this is the most usual kind of authority in Debian and it
is not gatekept by any kind of access control mechanism; rather like
any management decision, it is a kind of authority honoured by humans
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ut having your key in the Debian Maintainers'
keyring, so this term is very confusing.
ADM = "Authorised Debian Maintainers" or "Assistant/Associate Debian
Members" or something maybe ?
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Ian Jackson writes ("Call for experiences of Norbert Preining"):
> Very regrettably, [...]
Several people whose opinions I hold in high regard have told me that
this was a seriously bad idea. On an official level, I received a
complaint from listmaster.
So, I'm sorry. I fa
ntion of
the provided information is still necessary, and if I consider it not
any longer to be necessary, I will delete it.
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people, ie (since supporters only come
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your proposal.
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u as a
> particularly strong Debian alternative for servers?
I'm not running it myself. All I've done is had (positive)
interations with Devuan developers and looked and (and borrowed) some
of their source code. So I'm afraid you'll have to evaluate that for
yourself.
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Miles Fidelman writes ("Re: Censorship in Debian"):
> I've basically been nursing a couple of aging systems. When next I do a
> major upgrade to our server farm, It will be to something other than
> Debian. Until then, the pressure hasn't been there, and I've been -
> I've been waiting and wat
Martin Steigerwald writes ("Re: Censorship in Debian"):
> Ian Jackson - 05.01.19, 18:17:
> > Very competently toxic people will calculate precisely what they can
> > get away with: they will ride roughshod over weak victims or in
> > situations with less visibility;
blems.
The issues are very different. And the toxic emotional and political
baggage from the init system stuff is really bad. So bringing init
system stuff into this conversation about acceptable conduct just
increases the hurt and argument, but does not lead to any better
conclusions.
Ian
away with things) does carry a serious risk of serious consequence.
Maybe the next community they get involved with will find them a more
positive influence, and easier to deal with. And at least the
community they were ejected from is spared the work of educating
(and fighting) the unwilling.
? Even a dedicated mailing list
would be better since it would let us expire the archives.
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Norbert Preining writes ("On Mediation and Warnings"):
> What I want to make clear that I have received in total
> 5 (five)
> personal messages from DPL/DAM/AH Teams:
You are implying (while carefully avoiding saying it directly) that
until the DAM decision, you didn't know that many people
Guilhem Moulin writes ("Re: Support WKD (and WKS) for @debian.org email
addresses?"):
> On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 at 18:20:16 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Personally I think the hash is bizarre. Why make this protocol depend
> > on an obsolete hash function ? One could
W. Martin Borgert writes ("Support WKD (and WKS) for @debian.org email
addresses?"):
> One way to help senders getting the real receivers key is WKD (web key
> directory). That is one HTTPS URL per email address, e.g. a static
> directory with PGP key files. (See https://wiki.gnupg.org/WKD)
This
Laura Arjona Reina writes ("Bits from the Debian Anti-harassment team"):
> In order to help the Debian community understand the community health
> and status of the Anti-harassment team, we will be sending out regular
> small reports.
Thank you. Inevitably the project don't generally directly see
Ben Hutchings writes ("Re: Do we need embargoes for GPL compliance issues?"):
> As you may know, an individual copyright holder in the Linux kernel is
> understood to have succesfully sued various infringing companies
Bet you a dime to a dollar that these same infringing companies are
vigorously o
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Do we need embargoes for GPL compliance issues?"):
> I think it was entirely wrong of the Conservancy's Linux GPL
> enforcement project to go along with the idea of promising to give
> violators a GPLv3-style termination clause.
Needless to say
2 termination) if the GPLv2-violator is willing to
behave in a way that would comply with GPLv3 within the GPLv3 30-day
period.
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ut things. As a general rule, I woud
support any of their campaigns. (I have a number of their excellent
T-shirts too.)
NB that FSFE are quite are a different thing to the FSF, although,
obviously, they are allies.
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MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI
heads-up"):
> Le 03/05/2018 à 13:30, Ian Jackson a écrit :
> > Martin Michlmayr writes ("Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI
> > heads-up"):
> >>> Ian Jackso
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
> Yes I understand. Just keep in mind that the letter is not public, just
> for amazon staff. But well, I propose we try without explicit name and
> see wether it is enough for Amazon.
I was thinking we would put it on our website. T
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
> I saw the topic in quite progress last weeks ago. When do you think I could
> get
> a signed letter, ideally mentioning explicitly Hypra?
I don't think it's likely that we would want to explicitly mention
anyone in particular. Is
Martin Michlmayr writes ("Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI
heads-up"):
> > Ian Jackson [2018-05-02 16:42]:
> > > I'll discuss with the SPI board.
> >
> > When should we expect to hear from you ?
>
> I'm not sure. I had a dea
Martin Michlmayr writes ("Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI
heads-up"):
> I'll discuss with the SPI board.
When should we expect to hear from you ?
Thanks,
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Tollef Fog Heen writes ("UEFI Secure Boot sprint report"):
> In the end, we decided to have a signing service which will construct
> a source package based on a "template" package and a list of files to
> sign and upload this to be processed by the normal buildd and dak
> processes. The signing ser
Alvaro Herrera writes ("Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI
heads-up"):
> Ian Jackson wrote:
> > There's one bugfix: "the the" should read "the".
>
> No bugfix for "anticpate" or "predjudice"?
Thanks for the p
Martin Michlmayr writes ("Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI
heads-up"):
> Ian Jackson [2018-04-19 13:53]:
> > SPI: are you willing to have the SPI Secretary sign this letter ? If
>
> Just to make sure we're on the same page, you're talking abo
with
> your name at the bottom.
>
> (Happy to sign it too if that's needed or helpful for whatever
> reason.)
It might make it more convincing if you were to sign it, indeed.
I will wait a bit now to see what SPI says.
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Ian Jackson writes ("Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI heads-up"):
> We (Debian, me specifically) are about to ask Free Software
> Conservancy for legal advice - specifically whether there is anything
> wrong with this proposed letter.
I am picking this up again now
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
> Did I miss something about this topic? Any news?
I'm sorry, I dropped this. Please do hassle me if you don't hear more
in the next week.
Ian.
thinks they want - punishment for the wrongdoer.
And, of course, stick: if you post to d-devel anyway then your own
behaviour will be scrutinised by that some body, and will be
officially looked on unfavourably (rather than just get you dogpiled).
I'm going to let other people drive this conver
Lars Wirzenius writes ("Re: Conflict escalation and discipline"):
> "Debian emotional support group", maybe.
I find this suggestion very surprising, possibly even insulting. At
the very least I need to be much clearer.
> But maybe wait with the naming until there's a clear description of
> what
Lars Wirzenius writes ("Re: Conflict escalation and discipline"):
> Most of the problems being discussed right now, and in general, seem
> to be of the sort where feelings are hurt, but harassment isn't
> happening. The situations seem to be "A did something, and B was
> offended, how do we get A a
ently to our existing institutions.
I wonder if I should propose a GR. That would provide a way of
testing whether my ideas (which do seem controversial) are more widely
held, and also if the GR passes, give clear legitimacy to the new
team.
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case.
>
> I also am reluctant to speak for Ian (!) but I believe he is making
> the point that it is this very diversity of contact points that
> could be part of the problem.
Yes.
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Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) writes ("Re: Conflict escalation and discipline"):
> On 2018-04-17 14:39, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > We desperately need:
> >
> > * Somewhere people can escalate a dispute involving ill-feeling,
> >that isn't debian-devel[
C, or
whoever, were expected to follow.
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It is possible that something similar is happening to these ISOs. I
doubt that any of *Debian's* competitors would bother with such
shenanigans, but we ship an enormous variety of software, at least
some of which must have unscrupulous competitors.
Ian.
(sad that the world has come to this k
as a very workable approach for disagreements
over whether software X or Y is better. (For whatever value of
"better") Offer both and let people decide for themselves.
When things start to get really emotional and heated is when people
feel (rightly or wrongly) that such choices ar
Holger Levsen writes ("technical terms (Re: Automatic downloading of non-free
software by stuff in main)"):
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 04:06:43PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > (Your logic would argue that browser porn mode is basically
> > pointless.)
>
> I did
d last week ?
No.
(Your logic would argue that browser porn mode is basically
pointless.)
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le→Save" but does if the
> file type is downloaded.
>
> * I wasn't successful in doing this on a tmpfs - perhaps there are
> additional runes to add to the mount options that would make that possible.
Can we have a single place to enable/disable this behaviour ? I think
it
Paul R. Tagliamonte writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by
stuff in main"):
> I hilariously discovered this last night as well (playing with IMA), and
> removing the creation of that attr would be a huge step back.
>
> Restricting the execution of files one downloads or disabl
streams are doing it because
they have decided that they agree with those downstreams' very zealous
objection to non-free software, including firmware etc.
I propose to help those users, and those downstream developers, by
doing some more of the work in Debian.
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ance towards non-free components can
fall into that category. The users who have chosen such derivatives
have done so _because_ of that stance. We serve those users if we
make their wishes easier to implement.
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Enrico Zini writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in
main"):
> On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 08:22:58PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > [Ian Jackson:]
> > > Debian ought to be a good upstream for everyone, not just "me"
> > &
(Dropping the crossposts. The stuff I want to reply to is probably
material for -project.)
Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff
in main"):
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 01:52:18PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > I would like to establish a
k and be useable (and indeed, will
be minimal effort for a package maintainer to opt into).
(The question is: how do we stop a Postscript file received by email
being rendered automatically when the user clicks on it, while
allowing the user to still open a Postscript file they generated
themselves
I'm afraid I am not
volunteering to implement or maintain it :-/.
Regards,
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is wanted.
So, you could ship it to me. Perhaps Debian wants to pay for the
shipping out of Debian funds.
Please contact me by private email for the right shipping address.
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Someone who was sort-of-MIA said on -private that they would like to
keep their @debian.org email forwarding indefinitely, as they move to
emeritus status.
I think that, with some safeguards[1], this would be a good thing to
offer people. If nothing else people have often used @d.o addresses
in D
re all, ultimately, questions of politics: they concern the
balance of competing interests, and the location and scope of power
and control.
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e can also take that up with the
> listmasters.
> So, you can send mails promptly without seeking review, provided the
> other listmasters are OK with that.
Yes.
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Sam Hartman writes ("Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement:
Concerns about the Technical Committee"):
> I am discussing how we handle conflict because I hope we can do a better
> job of helping people feel valued even when we do not agree with their
> technical positions.
You've perh
complaints about what might be seen as mild misbehaviour. And if I
see someone being rude directly to another contributor, but CC'd to
the public, it feels odd to be reporting that to the antiharassment
team. Do I need to have standing ?
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But
more centrally provided things like accepting donations are a
different matter.
Everyone should read David's book.
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did see you mention here
https://github.com/kathryntolsen/diss/wiki/DISS-Diagnostic-Trees
that you were planning to use XML as a metadata format. Debian has
long disfavoured XML for these kinds of uses (for good technical
reasons).
I hope this is helpful and good luck.
Regards,
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Joshua D. Drake writes ("Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI
heads-up"):
> On 08/31/2017 07:19 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Debian would like to sign, jointly with SPI, a letter stating that we
> > do not intend to apply for EANs. A draft of the letter is belo
Guillem Jover writes ("Re: Debian trademark, EAN, proposed letter, SPI
heads-up"):
> I'm not sure whether this is splitting hairs, but wouldn't issuing a
> letter stating those 2 years make any similar request in the near
> future that demands a 2 years span, require reissuing a new letter?
> Perh
condition of an item for
which an EAN or UPC exemption is requested must be New.
Please find more info about those EAN exemptions requests by clicking on
the following link: ***
No answer is require from your side, but if you have further questions
concerning your sales, please never h
shirish शिरीष writes ("Reasons for having DPL election terms 1 year"):
> My query how did the idea of having yearly elections for choosing DPL
> come in place.
This was my doing. And, TBH, I don't think I considered other options
very seriously, although I haven't searched my email archives. (I
Marc Haber writes ("Re: wanted: educate us please on key dongles"):
> That's a point, but I cannot validate whether the free hardware
> design running the free software crypto app isn't backdoored anyway due
> to lack of knowledge and expertise.
You don't need to be able to validate it personally.
Steve McIntyre writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
> Looks good to me, but agreed also on the lawyer front.
Chris, could you please either nonexclusively delegate this issue to
me, or authorise me to contact Debian's lawers, and SPI, on Debian's
behalf, to ask them to review this letter (or
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
> Here is the mail I could get in English. It sums up the situation.
Thanks. This is very helpful.
As far as I can see:
* Amazon seem to be concerned that products should not be sold
on Amazon without an EAN, if the manufacture
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
> Le 25/07/2017 à 20:36, Ian Jackson a écrit :
> > Henrique, can you please point me to the documentation about these
> > exemption letters ? I continue to think that this is perhaps the
> > right route
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
> Is it a problem if it is a French message?
I'll cope somehow :-).
Ian.
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
> Le 25/07/2017 à 23:59, Ian Jackson a écrit :
> > MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
> > Can you please point me to the documentation you are reading about
> > the
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
> The alternative is my initial proposal, more simple than others indeed:
> mentioning in an official letter that Debian will not get any EAN in
> next two years, and that Debian does not want Hypra to sell Debian
> without EAN. It doe
et
an EAN from our allocation.
I'd also be interested to see what approach is taken for physical
prints of 3D models, which have certain similarities to (say) Debian
DVDs in this context.
Thanks,
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MENGUAL Jean-Philippe writes ("Re: Request for official help"):
> Any vendor then has threee solutions:
>
> 1. Getting from Debian an official letter (see attached template) to
> say: a) we don't want any seller to send Debian without an EAN on a
> marketplace; b) we will not get our own EANs in t
d-devel (which is the
> Reply-to for this e-mail). The canonical DEP text is at
> <http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep15/>.
>
> The drivers are myself and Ian Jackson, who came up with the idea, but I
> said I'd write up the formal proposal.
Thanks, Sean.
For others: this w
t said "this machine would have
passed the certification, except that the wifi card requires a
separately supplied firmware blob from Debian non-free" would be
extremely useful to many users and potential purchasers.
I wonder if we could have a certification level (and associated name,
lo
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