At 2022-11-21T03:10:27+0100, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote:
> Please, keep in mind that in Germany the nazi propaganda is out-of-law
> but in some other countires out-of-law is the use of the name of the
> profet (whoever he is). So, law compliance might not be as easy as you
> pretend to be unless OU
At 2022-11-20T15:34:51-0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 12:28:59PM -0600, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > At 2022-11-20T11:41:56+0100, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> > > I'm personally fine to defend the "less neutral" position we take by
> > > dropping fortunes-off which is tota
On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 07:58:38PM -0600, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> At 2022-11-20T23:55:52+, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > >As it was an NMU, this should be easily rectified.
> > >Don't let cancel culture win.
> >
> > Are you volunteering to pick up the package and review its contents,
> > remo
> "Steve" == Steve Langasek writes:
Steve> This isn't Sodom and Gomorrah; the package shouldn't be
Steve> spared from death because you found 5 good fortunes in it.
Steve> This package is a fossilized collection of fortunes that some
Steve> random people on Usenet found funny
On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 at 00:59, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:07:53AM +0100, Michael Neuffer wrote:
> >Am 20. November 2022 23:04:05 MEZ schrieb Mattia Rizzolo :
> >>On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 10:45:15PM +0100, Michael Neuffer wrote:
> >>> On 11/20/22 22:14, Roberto A. Foglietta
At 2022-11-20T23:55:52+, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> >As it was an NMU, this should be easily rectified.
> >Don't let cancel culture win.
>
> Are you volunteering to pick up the package and review its contents,
> removing the worst stuff that is clearly *not* fit for us to publish?
You adopt the
On Sunday, 20 November 2022 23:04:05 CET Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> > > rational approach vs cancel culture: 1 vs 0
> > > <3
> >
> > I can only very much agree to this.
>
> I also wholly agree, alas it seems we already lost before this even
> started :(
>
> https://tracker.debian.org/news/1385116/a
On Sunday, 20 November 2022 21:54:14 CET Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> If we're going to get Bookworm out, now is a good time to be thinking of
> things that could usefully be removed to lower a maintenance burden
Sorry, but I find this a non-argument.
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/fortune-mod doesn
On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 11:04:05PM +0100, Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 10:45:15PM +0100, Michael Neuffer wrote:
> > On 11/20/22 22:14, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote:
> > > On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 at 21:42, G. Branden Robinson
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thank you for, perhaps inadverte
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:07:53AM +0100, Michael Neuffer wrote:
>Am 20. November 2022 23:04:05 MEZ schrieb Mattia Rizzolo :
>>On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 10:45:15PM +0100, Michael Neuffer wrote:
>>> On 11/20/22 22:14, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote:
>>> > On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 at 21:42, G. Branden Robinson
Am 20. November 2022 23:04:05 MEZ schrieb Mattia Rizzolo :
>On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 10:45:15PM +0100, Michael Neuffer wrote:
>> On 11/20/22 22:14, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote:
>> > On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 at 21:42, G. Branden Robinson
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thank you for, perhaps inadvertently, compe
On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 12:28:59PM -0600, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> At 2022-11-20T11:41:56+0100, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> > I'm personally fine to defend the "less neutral" position we take by
> > dropping fortunes-off which is total garbage.
> I'll stop here. That's 5 out of 5, none of w
On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 08:54:14PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> I suspect there is also a slight difference of understanding of the merits of
> free speech on either
> side of the Atlantic: it's a cultural thing and I suspect I tend to the
> European side here :)
>
Thank you for acknowle
Hi Sam,
Thanks very much for taking the time to thoughfully articulate your
thoughts. I find myself agreeing with a great deal of what you wrote.
On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 01:05:15PM -0700, Sam Hartman wrote:
>
> 2) I will try and build a consensus that we want the bar to be high for
> rejecting
On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 10:45:15PM +0100, Michael Neuffer wrote:
> On 11/20/22 22:14, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 at 21:42, G. Branden Robinson
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you for, perhaps inadvertently, compelling me to review some of
> > > the content of the package. I c
On 11/20/22 22:14, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 at 21:42, G. Branden Robinson
wrote:
Thank you for, perhaps inadvertently, compelling me to review some of
the content of the package. I can now say that I am certain there is
material of worth in the fortunes-off package and
> "Andrew" == Andrew M A Cater writes:
Andrew> I'm not going to die in a ditch over this but I raised it as
Andrew> a genuine query to the project in good faith and without any
Andrew> agenda.
I appreciate that. I hope my message was received in the spirit of an
answer to the g
On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 at 21:42, G. Branden Robinson
wrote:
> Thank you for, perhaps inadvertently, compelling me to review some of
> the content of the package. I can now say that I am certain there is
> material of worth in the fortunes-off package and support its retention
> in the Debian distri
Hi Sam,
I respect absolutely what you say. I'm not sure that fortunes-offensive has any
particular literary
merit, I'm not sure myself that, now that the separate binary for fortunes-off
has been removed,
that the dat file merits inclusion. It was a leaf package on a small games
package that is
TL;DR: I think that we need to be significantly more permissive of ideas
expressed in software in our archive, especially for software that
exhibits creative speech, than we do conduct in our community. I do not
think that the Code of Conduct is an appropriate tool for judging
software in Debian.
At 2022-11-20T11:41:56+0100, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> I'm personally fine to defend the "less neutral" position we take by
> dropping fortunes-off which is total garbage.
"Total garbage." Have you _read_ it?
Running "fortune -o" myself a few times, I get the following results.
These are in
Le 20/11/2022 à 12:10, Ansgar a écrit :
On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 16:44 +0600, Judit Foglszinger wrote:
fortune-mod has no bugs that prevent testing migration,
it just needs a source-only upload.
Hah, an easy bug to fix :-) I did that just now (1:1.99.1-7.3).
Thank you.
taffit
OpenPGP_signa
I got curious at the offensive fortunes so I looked at English and
Italian ones. I wrote a couple of comments in this email, that I then
deleted...
I think that in the XXIth century an ambitious replacement would be to
train a "Deep Learning" model with social network trolls to generate
offensive
On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 16:44 +0600, Judit Foglszinger wrote:
> fortune-mod has no bugs that prevent testing migration,
> it just needs a source-only upload.
Hah, an easy bug to fix :-) I did that just now (1:1.99.1-7.3).
Ansgar
Hi,
> This does raise the wider question: we're about to freeze for Bookworm.
> Removing leaf packages and packages with a small user count might be
> profitable
> at this point. Fortune-mod has some bugs at the moment preventing testing
> transition and has had several NMUs prior to the latest u
"G. Branden Robinson" wrote on 20/11/2022 at
00:22:29+0100:
> [[PGP Signed Part:No public key for D19E9C7D71266DCE created at
> 2022-11-20T00:22:22+0100 using RSA]]
> At 2022-11-19T23:07:50+0100, Dominik George wrote:
>> > Right, and has has been discussed before (more times than can be
>> > co
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