Re: Multi-package projects

2022-10-08 Thread Niels Thykier
Wouter Verhelst: On Sat, Oct 08, 2022 at 08:06:33AM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: [...] OK, thanks. This was the reason why I added that disclaimer at the top of my previous email; if the release team doesn't want to do the work (which would be completely reasonable!) then obviously we'd have to c

Re: Evolving away from source package realms

2022-10-08 Thread Barak A. Pearlmutter
I myself am *very* happy to have other Debian people (DDs, DMs) git push and dput fixes to any of "my" packages. No need for an MNU or delay or permission: just do it. Zero friction. In the unlikely event you do something I'm uncomfortable with I'll just revert it and discuss. This has nothing to

Re: Multi-package projects

2022-10-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Oct 08, 2022 at 08:06:33AM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: > > [...] > > > > Here are things I think the RT style composition has going for it. > > > > [... long list of praise for the RT ...] > > > > Hi, > > I agree that the RT has a long list of pros for this role. However, I feel > this

Re: Multi-package projects

2022-10-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Oct 07, 2022 at 09:13:56PM +0200, Timo Röhling wrote: > * Wouter Verhelst [2022-10-07 19:58]: > > I'm not sure I agree with that assessment. I believe DEPs are mostly for > > discussing changes that can then be voluntarily implemented by > > individual package maintainers; whereas this is

Re: Multi-package projects

2022-10-08 Thread Niels Thykier
Hi, Debian does not have a good way to manage projects that require changes to large numbers of source packages to be successful. Handling projects like that currently requires buy-in from each individual package maintainer; if the project does not manage to convince sufficient numbers of maintai

Re: Multi-package projects

2022-10-08 Thread Niels Thykier
[...] Here are things I think the RT style composition has going for it. [... long list of praise for the RT ...] > Hi, I agree that the RT has a long list of pros for this role. However, I feel this discussing is overlooking one vital detail. Namely that the RT is a thankless job of endle