Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task

2019-10-03 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ian Jackson > Such a small, essentially honorary, contribution wouldn't distort our > volunteer setup, and don't need the levels of serious review and > engagement that a larger amount does. But it would act as a tangible > way to express that we would like to see something done and might > e

Re: Expense Rules for Mini-DebConfs

2019-10-03 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
On 02/10/2019 18:33, Sam Hartman wrote: > > * People in Europe and to a lesser extent North America are > geographically privileged in Debian in some significant ways. We > might well choose to spend money to help balance that out some. +1 From Brazil -- Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phl

+1

2019-10-03 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 11:18:41AM -0300, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > I > think having a single procedure for "meetings" would be a win. +1 -- cheers, Holger --- holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|

Re: Expense Rules for Mini-DebConfs

2019-10-03 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2019/10/03 17:13, Sam Hartman wrote: > You approached me asking for travel approval. > I said that I was having a bit of conflict with the treasurer team > working through some guidelines to apply because of a previous decision > that I had made. I asked how big of a problem it would be if I tu

Re: Expense Rules for Mini-DebConfs

2019-10-03 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Jonathan" == Jonathan Carter writes: Jonathan> Hi Sam Jonathan> On 2019/10/02 23:33, Sam Hartman wrote: >> Tl;DR: I think that the Mini-DebConf and Sprint process are >> working great and have no plans to revisit those procedures. But >> we can discuss whether we need

Re: BSP Reimbursements

2019-10-03 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 10:43:37AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > TL;DR: Do we want BSP organizers to take on the responsibility of > batching together travel reimbursement requests. > > HI. A while back, I suspended the automatic approval of reimbursements > for attending BSPs. You can still as

Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task

2019-10-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Richard! On 9/29/19 11:26 PM, Richard Z wrote: > On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 11:44:26AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > >> As m68k is the oldest port of both the Linux kernel and Debian after i386, >> it would be a shame to see it go as there is still very good upstream support >> in the

Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task

2019-10-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 9/30/19 4:53 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 1:14 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > >> Having said that, I'm going to unsubscribe from this list now as I realize >> that what we do in Debian Ports is still not considered useful many others, >> so I think it's not possible to

Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task

2019-10-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 9/30/19 4:59 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: > Had I been asked for m68k hardware in this instance, I don't think I > would have even blinked before approving the request. The only reason I am asking is because we're currently in a situation where we need external help. We are trying to be as cost-effec

Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task

2019-10-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Ian! Apologies for my late reply. On 9/30/19 12:40 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Paul Wise writes ("Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task"): >> To be clear, I think the work that folks are doing on the unofficial >> Debian ports is valuable and important and that the m68k GCC tas

Re: Expense Rules for Mini-DebConfs

2019-10-03 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Didier" == Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes: Didier> Fair enough. But then I wonder what guidelines will be used Didier> to grant, amend, or deny travel support budgets. Surely not Didier> "any" budget is fine (or is it)? I tend to think it'd be of Didier> great support for th

Re: BSP Reimbursements

2019-10-03 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le jeudi, 3 octobre 2019, 12.54:53 h CEST Kyle Robbertze a écrit : > On 2019/10/02 22:17, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > Third: what rules-of-thumb, or guidelines do we want for travel support? > > In the context of relatively _short_ events (2-5 days), I think we ought > > to > > put upper limits

Re: Expense Rules for Mini-DebConfs

2019-10-03 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mercredi, 2 octobre 2019, 23.33:10 h CEST Sam Hartman a écrit : > > "Didier" == Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes: > >> TL;DR: Do we want BSP organizers to take on the responsibility of > >> batching together travel reimbursement requests. > > Didier> Yes, but… I think we, as a proje

Re: BSP Reimbursements

2019-10-03 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 12:54:53PM +0200, Kyle Robbertze wrote: > A distance limit effectively prevents people from remoter areas of the > world. +1 (This basically means almost anyone not living in Europe.) -- cheers, Holger --

Re: Expense Rules for Mini-DebConfs

2019-10-03 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Sam On 2019/10/02 23:33, Sam Hartman wrote: > Tl;DR: I think that the Mini-DebConf and Sprint process are working > great and have no plans to revisit those procedures. > But we can discuss whether we need to do that. I don't think it's working great. Earlier this year my request for travel re

Re: BSP Reimbursements

2019-10-03 Thread Kyle Robbertze
Hi OdyX, On 2019/10/02 22:17, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Hello Sam, > > (I'm hereby answering out of my experience of helping organizing the > miniDebConf Vaumarcus this year, but without coordination with the rest of > the > team). > > Le mercredi, 2 octobre 2019, 16.43:37 h CEST Sam Hart

Re: Expense Rules for Mini-DebConfs

2019-10-03 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Sam Hartman wrote: > I strongly believe that Debian should be about free software. Every time we mix in some other issue, we reduce our contributor base and dilute our mission. +1 Just as a side note, not wanting to reopen that discussion -- I guess this would also apply to the issue that I rais

Re: BSP Reimbursements

2019-10-03 Thread Jacob Lifshay
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 13:17 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > So what I'd would enjoy to see is exchanges along the lines of: > > - BSP Orga: hey DPL; we organize a 3-days/2-nights BSP and would like to > support travel for potential attendees. We expect about 12 travel > requests; > what can you do f