Re: enforcement first, ask questions later?

2019-02-03 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 04/02/2019 08:18, Ondřej Surý wrote: > In the past, I’ve seen some communities to wither because of a toxic person > violently pushed their agenda on everybody. > > This is certainly following the similar pattern. > > That’s my first and last 2 cents to this discussion. Thanks for your feedbac

Re: enforcement first, ask questions later?

2019-02-03 Thread Ondřej Surý
In the past, I’ve seen some communities to wither because of a toxic person violently pushed their agenda on everybody. This is certainly following the similar pattern. That’s my first and last 2 cents to this discussion. Ondřej -- Ondřej Surý > On 4 Feb 2019, at 07:29, Daniel Pocock wrote:

Re: enforcement first, ask questions later?

2019-02-03 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 03/02/2019 11:02, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Daniel Pocock - 03.02.19, 08:38: >> This reveals a lot about the serious problems in Debian right now. >> Did we really sign up to be part of an experiment like that? I >> didn't. >> >> Why do certain people want to start out with enforcement, skip

Re: enforcement first, ask questions later?

2019-02-03 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 04/02/2019 02:16, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Feb 03, 2019 at 08:38:54AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> It is a fact that both Lamb and de Blanc have stated at various times >> during 2018 that they didn't have time to talk to people. It is also a >> fact that multiple people have complained

Re: enforcement first, ask questions later?

2019-02-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Feb 03, 2019 at 08:38:54AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > It is a fact that both Lamb and de Blanc have stated at various times > during 2018 that they didn't have time to talk to people. It is also a > fact that multiple people have complained that Debian leadership figures > are too busy t

Re: enforcement first, ask questions later?

2019-02-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Daniel Pocock - 03.02.19, 08:38: > This reveals a lot about the serious problems in Debian right now. > Did we really sign up to be part of an experiment like that? I > didn't. > > Why do certain people want to start out with enforcement, skipping > over normal human relations, avoiding meetings