Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Enrico Zini
On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 03:29:26PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > Specifically: 1) Would you want the default CD/DVD image to use a GNOME > even if GNOME was unable to fit on a single image? 2) Would the GNOME > team consider a less-complete DE for cases where image size is a > restriction? How ha

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, I don't know if it's wise to include that by default, but I remember that today, MATE is quite accessible. Not perfet, yes, but slight, customizable, and with Compiz which can run on it with all its features. Gnome is heavy for some machines and much less customizable in colours, objects

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread brian m. carlson
On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 10:34:29PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > > Well, it's roughly that time. :) So I'd like to plainly request GNOME > > > is reinstated as the default desktop environment for a number of > > > reasons. > > > > One of the reasons put forward for switching to Xfce was size on th

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 08 Aug 2014 18:47:59 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Camaleón (2014-08-08 18:26:22) >> On Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:09:56 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Camaleón wrote: I really (and still) like the idea of having no default desktop at all

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Camaleón (2014-08-08 18:26:22) > On Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:09:56 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> I really (and still) like the idea of having no default desktop at >>> all and let the users decide by themselves if they even want to get >>

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:09:56 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> I really (and still) like the idea of having no default desktop at all >> and let the users decide by themselves if they even want to get a DE >> when performing a DVD based installatio

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Camaleón wrote: > I really (and still) like the idea of having no default desktop at all > and let the users decide by themselves if they even want to get a DE when > performing a DVD based installation. Including all potential DE options on the main install disc (

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 08 Aug 2014 11:14:07 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On jeu., 2014-08-07 at 23:57 +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: >> Hi Debian, > > About the decision itself, as Debian Xfce main maintainer, I honestly > don't really care. I don't think the default desktop matters that much > on Debian (whi

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Samuel Thibault (2014-08-08 16:19:28) > Jonas Smedegaard, le Fri 08 Aug 2014 16:11:58 +0200, a écrit : >> The following is on a wheezy chroot: >> >> root@bastian:/# aptitude install task-gnome-desktop >> The following NEW packages will be installed: >> [...] >> Need to get 370 MB of archiv

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Gunnar Wolf writes ("Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop"): > And yes, many such computers are currently in use. And it would be a > disservice not to provide CDs anymore. But that criteria should not be > what guides our default for installation; a CD might not be able to > have th

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jonas Smedegaard, le Fri 08 Aug 2014 16:11:58 +0200, a écrit : > The following is on a wheezy chroot: > > root@bastian:/# aptitude install task-gnome-desktop > The following NEW packages will be installed: > [...] > Need to get 370 MB of archives. After unpacking 1099 MB will be used. > > root@ba

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Olav Vitters (2014-08-08 15:51:13) > On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 03:26:20PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> I wonder if you still missed my point: Concern is not if computers >> are capable of reading DVDs, but the *bandwith* burden of installing >> and maintaining a larger desktop versus a

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gunnar Wolf (2014-08-08 15:00:35) > Jens Schüßler dijo [Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 10:37:33AM +0200]: >>> ...And I'd like us to consider this point as well: How important are >>> CD images nowadays? Who has a CD that cannot read a DVD? >> >> You may visit some poorer people in the world. >> But

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Jens Schüßler dijo [Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 10:37:33AM +0200]: > > ...And I'd like us to consider this point as well: How important are > > CD images nowadays? Who has a CD that cannot read a DVD? > > You may visit some poorer people in the world. > But hey, if they want CD-bread, why don't they ju

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On jeu., 2014-08-07 at 23:57 +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: > Hi Debian, About the decision itself, as Debian Xfce main maintainer, I honestly don't really care. I don't think the default desktop matters that much on Debian (while I guess it means a lot for Ubuntu, for example). I actually think havi

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 08/08/14 00:29, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Thu, 07 Aug 2014, Jordi Mallach wrote: >> Well, it's roughly that time. :) So I'd like to plainly request GNOME >> is reinstated as the default desktop environment for a number of >> reasons. > > One of the reasons put forward for switching to Xfce was s

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gunnar Wolf (2014-08-08 05:34:29) >> One of the reasons put forward for switching to Xfce was size on the >> installation images; could you (and/or debian-cd) address this? >> >> Specifically: 1) Would you want the default CD/DVD image to use a >> GNOME even if GNOME was unable to fit on

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Jens Schüßler
* Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > ...And I'd like us to consider this point as well: How important are > CD images nowadays? Who has a CD that cannot read a DVD? You may visit some poorer people in the world. But hey, if they want CD-bread, why don't they just eat DVD-cake. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Kees de Jong
Also: http://oskuro.net/blog/freesoftware/gnome-as-default-jessie-desktop-2014-08-07-23-58 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caah150bkszsgq6tzfaadlm