Quoting Gunnar Wolf (2014-08-08 15:00:35) > Jens Schüßler dijo [Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 10:37:33AM +0200]: >>> ...And I'd like us to consider this point as well: How important are >>> CD images nowadays? Who has a CD that cannot read a DVD? >> >> You may visit some poorer people in the world. >> But hey, if they want CD-bread, why don't they just eat DVD-cake..... > > Both Jens and Jonas answer with this assertion. Yes, I don't know most > of the developing world — But I do live in a developing country > (Mexico), and know quite well several countries in Latin America > (including, say, Bolivia, Ecuador and Central America, where I have > been to several times, and follow their communities' work). > > Yes, we do have quite a bit of outdated computers. But again, I said, > half-jokingly, that computers with CD readers and without a DVD reader > will not have enough power for a full desktop environment, such as i3 > or fvwm. The last computer I had with a CD-but-not-DVD unit was in the > 2003-2005 period. > > And yes, many such computers are currently in use. And it would be a > disservice not to provide CDs anymore. But that criteria should not be > what guides our default for installation; a CD might not be able to > have the full GNOME environment, but the computer using the CD would > not be able to use it anyway.
I wonder if you still missed my point: Concern is not if computers are capable of reading DVDs, but the *bandwith* burden of installing and maintaining a larger desktop versus a smaller one. We can ship only netinst images - completely drop CD and DVD and Blueray, and I still find it problematic to favor GNOME over Xfce - due to its size - which just happens to be expressed in discussions as "can it fit on a single CD?". The _default_ Debian desktop is what we implicitly recommend for our non-technical users, no matter the wealth of alternative offers we have. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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