Steve Langasek writes:
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:42:04PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
>> Wow, I am impressed, 5 emails out of 15150 (current search result
>> on lists.debian.org) makes me:
>>
>> > As one of the most routinely abusive posters on Debian lists towards your
>>
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:42:04PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> Wow, I am impressed, 5 emails out of 15150 (current search result
> on lists.debian.org) makes me:
>
> > As one of the most routinely abusive posters on Debian lists towards your
> ^
>
Norbert Preining writes:
>> As one of the most routinely abusive posters on Debian lists towards your
> ^
> That is your definition of "routinely": 0.033% ?
> Assuming that you missed 100 other emails that would still remain < 1%
> Thanks for this e
Wow, I am impressed, 5 emails out of 15150 (current search result
on lists.debian.org) makes me:
> As one of the most routinely abusive posters on Debian lists towards your
^
That is your definition of "routinely": 0.033% ?
Assuming that you missed 10
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:24:51AM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > As one of the most routinely abusive posters on Debian lists towards your
> > fellow developers: not you.
> Thus neither you ..., logic wins.
> Wow, being told most abusive posters ..
Hi Don,
Don Armstrong wrote:
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Chris Knadle wrote:
> On Saturday, April 13, 2013 13:34:23, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > On Sat, 13 Apr 2013, Chris Knadle wrote:
[...]
> > Why should there be consequences that you can see?
>
> A man you work with is treating you badly [...]
Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2013-04-06, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
> It's not a /good/ way in absolute terms, but it's pretty much the only
> way for now, so I guess it's currently the best way (see
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2011/11/msg00030.html ).
My experience with contacting own
Steve,
I openly request an apology from you. That is unbearable:
You publicly defamed me by stating:
On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Steve Langasek wrote:
> As one of the most routinely abusive posters on Debian lists towards your
> fellow developers: not you.
Onto which I asked for evidence:
On Mi, 22 Ma
On Tue, 21 May 2013, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 10:32 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > 6. You should avoid sending attachments; this generates a lot of
> > unnecessary bandwidth on our listservers. Instead, put the file you
> > would like to attach online somewhere and post a lin
Enrico Zini writes:
> Please note that a society where every single citizen is well behaved,
> and every single deviant is promptly corrected, is a police state.
> Bruce Schneier's "Liars and outliers" has some very interesting thoughts
> on this.
I don't think those thoughts can be extended int
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On 21-05-13 11:37, Norbert Preining wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>>> 1. Do not flame, use foul language, or in general be abusive or
>>>disrespectful towards other people on the mailinglists or else
Wouter Verhelst proposed:
> The Debian mailinglists exist to foster the development and use of
> Debian. This Code of Conduct exists to help towards that goal.
>
> In particular, the following rules should be adhered to by participants
> to discussion on Debian mailinglists:
That second paragrap
On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Steve Langasek wrote:
> As one of the most routinely abusive posters on Debian lists towards your
> fellow developers: not you.
Thus neither you ..., logic wins.
Wow, being told most abusive posters ... would you kindly use your
browser and browse my posts on debian-tex-maint
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 06:37:39PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > 1. Do not flame, use foul language, or in general be abusive or
> >disrespectful towards other people on the mailinglists or elsewhere
> And who defines that?
As one of the most
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 10:32 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
[...]
> The Debian mailinglists exist to foster the development and use of
> Debian. This Code of Conduct exists to help towards that goal.
>
> In particular, the following rules should be adhered to by participants
> to discussion on Debia
Hi Enrico,
On 21-05-13 14:19, Enrico Zini wrote:
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:32:09AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>
>> So, without further ado, here's my draft:
> [...]
>
> As a general principle, I object to any attempt to codify good
> behaviour. The DCG, which I thank Lars for mentioning, w
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:32:09AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> So, without further ado, here's my draft:
[...]
As a general principle, I object to any attempt to codify good
behaviour. The DCG, which I thank Lars for mentioning, was attempting to
give clues and reasonable expectations to peop
Hi Lars,
On 21-05-13 11:55, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> I suggest Enrico's "Debian Community Guidelines" would form a good
> base document for this discussion.
>
> http://people.debian.org/~enrico/dcg/
I know about this document, and agree that it consists of generally good
advise, worthy to be heed
On 21-05-13 11:37, Norbert Preining wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> 1. Do not flame, use foul language, or in general be abusive or
>>disrespectful towards other people on the mailinglists or elsewhere
>
> And who defines that?
The community as a whole.
>
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 06:37:39PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > 1. Do not flame, use foul language, or in general be abusive or
> >disrespectful towards other people on the mailinglists or elsewhere
>
> And who defines that?
We d
Hi Wouter,
many thanks for this initiative !
Here are some comments.
- I think that we shoud encourage more private replies. For instance,
"If you want to complain to someone who sent you a carbon copy when
you did not ask for it, do it privately" (from the current CoC), but also
for
I suggest Enrico's "Debian Community Guidelines" would form a good
base document for this discussion.
http://people.debian.org/~enrico/dcg/
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Hi all,
On Di, 21 Mai 2013, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> 1. Do not flame, use foul language, or in general be abusive or
>disrespectful towards other people on the mailinglists or elsewhere
And who defines that?
If you can give me a definition of "foul language" or "abusive"
or "disrespectful" I
Hi,
I've long thought that our code of conduct, as currently written, is
fairly useless. Because it contains things that are totally irrelevant
("swearing is illegal on packet radio, some people receive mailinglists
on packet radio, so don't swear"??? [citation needed]) and some things
that are in
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