Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonas Smedegaard writes: > I am fine with Source field permitting free-form text, as long as the > scope of that field is limited to covering the question "where did > upstream release the source that was the main basis for this package?" I think where we're disagreeing is that I don't see any r

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 07:17:59PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Jonas Smedegaard writes: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 06:23:12PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: It seems like overkill to me, but I guess I don't really care. But if the source is only URLs, then for some of my packages I either need to

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonas Smedegaard writes: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 06:23:12PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> It seems like overkill to me, but I guess I don't really care. But if >> the source is only URLs, then for some of my packages I either need to >> omit it or duplicate Homepage, since I don't use any tarb

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 06:23:12PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Jonas Smedegaard writes: To me, "Source:" contains origins. Makes sense to me for that field to be mandatory and only contain URLs. I would like an optional field indicating that our redistribute as the "source" (rather than our

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonas Smedegaard writes: > To me, "Source:" contains origins. Makes sense to me for that field to > be mandatory and only contain URLs. > I would like an optional field indicating that our redistribute as the > "source" (rather than our "overlay" part in the form of either a patch > or (with dp

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 05:35:12PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Jonas Smedegaard writes: Makes sense to me. Let's define only a single free-form field in the header section now. I suggest it then be a field specifically for notes regarding source not being "pristine" in the sense that the

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonas Smedegaard writes: > Makes sense to me. > Let's define only a single free-form field in the header section now. > I suggest it then be a field specifically for notes regarding source not > being "pristine" in the sense that the form as redistributed by Debian is > different from how it wa

Re: Account name change policy

2010-09-14 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 09/09/2010 10:16 AM, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > Given that the reasons for such a change request can be considered > something rather personal it should be considered at the discretion of > the person to publish it. i was not talking about the reason of the change, but the change itself. -- Add

Re: Dropping the .0 on release numbers?

2010-09-14 Thread Simon Paillard
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:23:27PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:05:57PM +0200, Simon Paillard wrote: > >On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:25:25PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > >> We have carried a major.minor scheme as a release numbering scheme > >> since the Early Days, > >[..

Re: Dropping the .0 on release numbers?

2010-09-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:05:57PM +0200, Simon Paillard wrote: >On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:25:25PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: >> We have carried a major.minor scheme as a release numbering scheme >> since the Early Days, >[..] >> So, for the past years we have had x.0.y with growing `y' for point >

Re: Dropping the .0 on release numbers?

2010-09-14 Thread Simon Paillard
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:25:25PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > We have carried a major.minor scheme as a release numbering scheme > since the Early Days, [..] > So, for the past years we have had x.0.y with growing `y' for point > releases, and skiping to (x+1).0.0. And the zero in the middle carri

Re: Dropping the .0 on release numbers?

2010-09-14 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:13:35 -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 01:58:51PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > The .0 actually has quite a bit relevance since it signifies a new > > major long-term release. It also demonstrates stability when used in > > conjunction with the thir

Re: Dropping the .0 on release numbers?

2010-09-14 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 01:58:51PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > The .0 actually has quite a bit relevance since it signifies a new > major long-term release. It also demonstrates stability when used in > conjunction with the third digit. 6.0.1 seems like a rather minor > update, which accurate

Re: DEP5: X-Autobuild

2010-09-14 Thread Andreas Barth
* Charles Plessy (ple...@debian.org) [100913 16:25]: > > Is this a good way of doing that? The referred-to e-mail says that an > > XS-Autobuild header in the debian/control (not copyright) file is > > required. Is there a need for a particular header for this in > > debian/copyright? Would not the

Re: Dropping the .0 on release numbers?

2010-09-14 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 09/14/2010 07:58 PM, Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:25:25 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: >> Hi, >> >> We have carried a major.minor scheme as a release numbering scheme >> since the Early Days, but it has lost relevance basically since Sarge >> (3.1 - But by the time it was finally r

Re: Dropping the .0 on release numbers?

2010-09-14 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:25:25 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Hi, > > We have carried a major.minor scheme as a release numbering scheme > since the Early Days, but it has lost relevance basically since Sarge > (3.1 - But by the time it was finally released, some discussion was > made whether Sarge sho

Dropping the .0 on release numbers?

2010-09-14 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Hi, We have carried a major.minor scheme as a release numbering scheme since the Early Days, but it has lost relevance basically since Sarge (3.1 - But by the time it was finally released, some discussion was made whether Sarge should be 4.0 as the difference from Woody was already too large, to w

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:57:28PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On ti, 2010-09-14 at 00:07 +0100, Stuart Prescott wrote: Personally, I'd like a nice machine-readable list of files/dirs/globs that should be removed from the tarball. I'd like it to be kept in a canonical location in the source ta

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-14 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ti, 2010-09-14 at 00:07 +0100, Stuart Prescott wrote: > Personally, I'd like a nice machine-readable list of files/dirs/globs that > should be removed from the tarball. I'd like it to be kept in a canonical > location in the source tarball (debian/copyright, perhaps?) This all sounds good, with

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-14 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ma, 2010-09-13 at 14:54 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > There should still be an explanation in debian/copyright of what that > script does, since that's the Policy-required location for specifying > where the upstream source came from. Oh, I thought only devref was requiring that to be in debian/

First explanations on DEP-5 parser

2010-09-14 Thread Dominique Dumont
Hello As discussed on Lars' blog [1], I've written an explanation [2] on the creation of a DEP-5 parser using Config::Model. I'll release the code soon first on CPAN, then in Debian's libconfig-model- perl package. All the best [1] http://blog.liw.fi/posts/debian-plans/ [2] http://ddumont.word

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:07:21AM +0100, Stuart Prescott wrote: - if the transformation can be expressed as a script, use "debian/rules get-orig-source" Since the purpose of the get-orig-source target seems to have become unclear over time, this doesn't sound like a good plan to me. The part

GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members

2010-09-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
[ Draft GR text below, look for "-". M-F-T set to -vote. ] Dear Debian project, in recent events I've attended as DPL, the topic of welcoming non-packaging contributors as project members has been a recurring one. Since it was also part of my platform and since DPL terms don't last forever,