Re: DEP5: Making "Files: *" non-optional

2010-09-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Sep 13 2010, Russ Allbery wrote: > Manoj Srivastava writes: >> On Mon, Sep 13 2010, Lars Wirzenius wrote: >> As far as I know, I don't have a single package for which a >> copyright field applies 6to all files in the source package (I might >> have missed one, but I think not).

Re: DEP5: Making "Files: *" non-optional

2010-09-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava writes: > On Mon, Sep 13 2010, Lars Wirzenius wrote: >> On ma, 2010-09-13 at 09:06 -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>> Currently, one only needs to list the copyrights in the package, >>> without specifying which file each copyright applies to. How is that >>> specified

Re: DEP5: Making "Files: *" non-optional

2010-09-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Sep 13 2010, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 08:59:34AM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>On Mon, Sep 13 2010, Lars Wirzenius wrote: >> >>> The current DEP5 draft says: >>> >>> * **`Files`** >>>* Required for all but the first paragraph. >>> If omitted from the f

Re: DEP5: Making "Files: *" non-optional

2010-09-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Sep 13 2010, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On ma, 2010-09-13 at 09:06 -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Currently, one only needs to list the copyrights in the package, >> without specifying which file each copyright applies to. How is that >> specified in DEP5 format? Implying that a

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-13 Thread Stuart Prescott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think at this point, we have to solve other problems with policy and devref, and having solved them the correct outcome for DEP5 will become obvious. > - if the transformation can be expressed as a script, use "debian/rules > get-orig-source" Sinc

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Lars Wirzenius writes: > If we do put the stripping information into debian/copyright, can > someone please suggest a concrete way to actually do that? What is > actually needed to implement the stripping automatically in > get-orig-source? A free-form field into which I can put things like:

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Lars Wirzenius writes: > Dev-ref §6.7.8.2 recommends that if you have to repackage the original > source, that the transformations that are performed be recorded in > debian/copyright. While there was recently some discussion on d-devel > about whether repackaging just to remove distributable-but

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 06:05:12PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On ma, 2010-09-13 at 16:58 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: It makes good sense to me that we (continue to) track stripped files at the same place as distributed files. On the other hand, I don't see the point of using debian/copyri

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-13 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Lars Wirzenius [100913 19:05]: > On ma, 2010-09-13 at 16:58 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > It makes good sense to me that we (continue to) track stripped files at > > the same place as distributed files. > > On the other hand, I don't see the point of using debian/copyright to > document co

Re: DEP5: Making "Files: *" non-optional

2010-09-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 08:59:34AM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Mon, Sep 13 2010, Lars Wirzenius wrote: The current DEP5 draft says: * **`Files`** * Required for all but the first paragraph. If omitted from the first paragraph, this is equivalent to a value of '*'. * Synt

Re: DEP5: Making "Files: *" non-optional

2010-09-13 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ma, 2010-09-13 at 09:06 -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Currently, one only needs to list the copyrights in the package, > without specifying which file each copyright applies to. How is that > specified in DEP5 format? Implying that all copyright notices apply to > all files would

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-13 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ma, 2010-09-13 at 16:58 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > It makes good sense to me that we (continue to) track stripped files at > the same place as distributed files. On the other hand, I don't see the point of using debian/copyright to document copyright information of files that are not par

Re: DEP-5: Files field and filename patterns

2010-09-13 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ma, 2010-09-13 at 23:22 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 02:47:13PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : > > > > That took more than a couple of days, but I've now merged the changes > > and pushed them out to the bzr trunk. > > Hi Lars, and bzr experts, > > I do not know wha

Re: DEP5: Making "Files: *" non-optional

2010-09-13 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:53:47 +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > * **`Files`** >* Required for all but the first paragraph. > If omitted from the first paragraph, > this is equivalent to a value of '*'. > > Does anyone oppose if I remove the "If omitted..." sentence? I see no > reason t

Re: DEP5: X-Autobuild

2010-09-13 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 23:19:48 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > X-Autobuild was a poor choice. My current opinion is that, unless there > is an interest to parse a specific field, it it better to use existing > ones, in that case Comment or Disclaimer. Agreed, Disclaimer should fit the purpose of exp

Re: DEP5: Making "Files: *" non-optional

2010-09-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Sep 13 2010, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > The current DEP5 draft says: > > * **`Files`** >* Required for all but the first paragraph. > If omitted from the first paragraph, > this is equivalent to a value of '*'. >* Syntax: white space separated list >* List of patterns i

Re: DEP5: Making "Files: *" non-optional

2010-09-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Sep 13 2010, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > The current DEP5 draft says: > > * **`Files`** >* Required for all but the first paragraph. > If omitted from the first paragraph, > this is equivalent to a value of '*'. >* Syntax: white space separated list >* List of patterns i

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 03:03:00PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: From the DEP5 wiki page: Dev-ref §6.7.8.2 recommends that if you have to repackage the original source, that the transformations that are performed be recorded in debian/copyright. While there was recently some discussion on d-de

Re: DEP5: X-Autobuild

2010-09-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 02:58:32PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: The current DEP5 draft has this paragraph: For a ''non-free'' package to be autobuilt, `debian/copyright` must contain an explanation that autobuilding is not forbidden (see [20061129152824.gt2...@mails.so.arg

Re: DEP5: Making "Files: *" non-optional

2010-09-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 02:53:47PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: The current DEP5 draft says: * **`Files`** * Required for all but the first paragraph. If omitted from the first paragraph, this is equivalent to a value of '*'. * Syntax: white space separated list * List of patterns

Re: DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 03:03:00PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : > > My opinions: > > - if the transformation can be expressed as a script, use "debian/rules > get-orig-source" > - otherwise, debian/README.Source seems like a better place to document > this than debian/copyright, since it has o

Re: DEP-5: Files field and filename patterns

2010-09-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 02:47:13PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : > > That took more than a couple of days, but I've now merged the changes > and pushed them out to the bzr trunk. Hi Lars, and bzr experts, I do not know what happened, but the dep bzr repository is not visible anymore through th

Re: DEP5: X-Autobuild

2010-09-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 02:58:32PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : > The current DEP5 draft has this paragraph: > > For a ''non-free'' package to be autobuilt, `debian/copyright` must > contain an > explanation that autobuilding is not forbidden (see > > [20061129152824.g

DEP5: non-DFSG repackaging documentation

2010-09-13 Thread Lars Wirzenius
>From the DEP5 wiki page: Dev-ref §6.7.8.2 recommends that if you have to repackage the original source, that the transformations that are performed be recorded in debian/copyright. While there was recently some discussion on d-devel about whether repackaging just to remove distributable-but-not-d

DEP5: X-Autobuild

2010-09-13 Thread Lars Wirzenius
The current DEP5 draft has this paragraph: For a ''non-free'' package to be autobuilt, `debian/copyright` must contain an explanation that autobuilding is not forbidden (see [20061129152824.gt2...@mails.so.argh.org](http://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/2 006112915

DEP5: Making "Files: *" non-optional

2010-09-13 Thread Lars Wirzenius
The current DEP5 draft says: * **`Files`** * Required for all but the first paragraph. If omitted from the first paragraph, this is equivalent to a value of '*'. * Syntax: white space separated list * List of patterns indicating files covered by the license and copyright s

Re: DEP-5: Files field and filename patterns

2010-09-13 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ti, 2010-09-07 at 06:24 +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > Nobody has commented on this in any way, so I assume I am still perfect > and everything I say is flawless. I am attaching a proposed patch to > rewrite the filename pattern section. Unless there are objections within > a couple of days, I w