Re: something related to the soc-ctte

2007-01-28 Thread MJ Ray
Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:54:35PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > But if they did mean it, line 2 could be "yes. here's why you deserved > > it" which almost no-one will ever accept. Why prolong the flames? > > > Hi MJR, Please do not send personal messages to m

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Please don't top post, we all read English in chronological (not random) order. http://wiki.ursine.ca/Best_Online_Quoting_Practices Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > Only Etch supports amd64, so I was forced to use Etch. > > Command I have used: > apt-get install firefox > > NOT > apt-get install icewe

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:40:52PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Sam, 27 Jan 2007, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > > Iceweasel and Firefox are a different products, very similar, but > > different. > > Can YOU please explain me what *important* differences there are? [...] > Otherwise I would like

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Re: something related to the soc-ctte

2007-01-28 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:54:35PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My example of an entry would be like this: > > joe user: you flamed me! > > peter hacker: oh. I'm sorry, I didn't mean it. > > joe user: thanks. > [...] > > But if they did mean it, line 2 c

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:02:43PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > I've suggested that iceweasel provides+conflicts+replaces firefox, > which AFAICT would instead produce the output: > > Note, selecting iceweasel instead of firefox > [...other stuff about packages...] > Do you want to continue? [Y/n

Re: Social Committee proposal

2007-01-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, MJ Ray wrote: The August 2005 -private blow-up seemed like two groups (of totally Well, the thing you call "blow-up" was the question, whether Debian as a project should send condolences to the family of a Debian maintainer who died. I do not want to discuss this issue he

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Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread hendrik
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:33:13AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 03:55:33PM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > > Only Etch supports amd64, so I was forced to use Etch. > > > There is an unofficial Sarge release for amd64. I use it on a couple of > servers and many Debia

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread hendrik
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:48:52PM +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: > -- > In the west we kill people like chickens. > [Agree] [Disagree] No opinion. When I was in the west I didn't see any prople that resembled chickens. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Social Committee proposal

2007-01-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 01:51:28PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > Yes, but that would mean that it could have hundreds of members. > > That's just not manageable. > > Then nor are ~1000 developers, nor the 6000+ who run a phone company > with me, nor the 3.5million who own shops with me, nor any other l

Re: Social Committee proposal

2007-01-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 01:42:20PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > > [...] It would be a powerful loose cannon on deck, [...] > > > > I must note that it would be no less powerful loose cannon on deck than > > the technical committee, > > It maybe loose, but we know which way the technical committee is >

Re: Social Committee proposal

2007-01-28 Thread MJ Ray
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Yes, but that would mean that it could have hundreds of members. > That's just not manageable. Then nor are ~1000 developers, nor the 6000+ who run a phone company with me, nor the 3.5million who own shops with me, nor any other large multi-member bus

Re: Social Committee proposal

2007-01-28 Thread MJ Ray
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 10:55:02AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > [...] It would be a powerful loose cannon on deck, [...] > > I must note that it would be no less powerful loose cannon on deck than > the technical committee, It maybe loose, but we know which way

Re: Social Committee proposal (taking decisions by direct voting)

2007-01-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 02:03:13PM +0100, Frederic Lehobey wrote: > I also believe it too difficult to implement in already existing (Debian) > constitutional bodies governed by other (working) rules. But I thought it > might worth consideration (even for experimentation) when designing and > setti

Re: Social Committee proposal (taking decisions by direct voting)

2007-01-28 Thread Frederic Lehobey
Hi, On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 01:27:47PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:40:30PM +0100, Frederic Lehobey wrote: > > And what about having the election body enlarged to the complete (or > > voluntary) developers crowd with a permanent and _easy_ way of voting. > [...] > > Note

Re: something related to the soc-ctte

2007-01-28 Thread MJ Ray
Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My example of an entry would be like this: > joe user: you flamed me! > peter hacker: oh. I'm sorry, I didn't mean it. > joe user: thanks. [...] But if they did mean it, line 2 could be "yes. here's why you deserved it" which almost no-one will ever

Re: Social Committee proposal (taking decisions by direct voting)

2007-01-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:40:30PM +0100, Frederic Lehobey wrote: > And what about having the election body enlarged to the complete (or > voluntary) developers crowd with a permanent and _easy_ way of voting. [...] > Note that I do not want to replace debate by voting. I simply prefer > to replace

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Martin Schulze
Mike Hommey wrote: > To be fair, it's not exactly true, because upgrading from firefox to > iceweasel in debian means upgrading from version 1.0 or 1.5 to 2.0, and > there are substancial changes that some people dislike, myself included. > > Which means Piotr is actually probably complaining abou

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread MJ Ray
"Piotr Dziubinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is no longer firefox in debian etch, so after typing: > apt-get install firefox > I would like to see announcement: Firefox packages are no longer present in > debian distribution, please try iceweasel. > > Do you see a difference? Yes. Just p

Re: Social Committee proposal (taking decisions by direct voting)

2007-01-28 Thread Frederic Lehobey
Hi, On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 04:25:26PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Yes, but that would mean that it could have hundreds of members. > > That's just not manageable. > > You're an optimist, I would think that there are at most a few dozen > interested p

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:40:52PM +0100, Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sam, 27 Jan 2007, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > > Iceweasel and Firefox are a different products, very similar, but different. > > Can YOU please explain me what *important* differences there are? > > If you m