On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I do, just as I do for every one of my own packages. If you
> don't. perhaps you should consider lowering your burden so you can
> have time for such a basic security check.
It's been a long time since I last sponsored someone, so I was not
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > It's a pain to have to use gpg to discover who sponsored the upload.
>
> You already know that by looking at the GPG signature.
If you read what I wrote (I just kept the relevant line) ... you will see
that I know that. But it's a pain to have to grab t
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Benjamin Mesing wrote:
> > like your studies (beeing in a computer science PhD/MSC "helps"),
> Well this might be interesting for the Debian project, but applicants
> might not want this to become public knowledge. Please do not assume,
> that this is for any particular reason
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Vincent Danjean wrote:
> I know that he, FD, DAM and perhaps a few others DD will read all these
> mail. But I would be very disappointed if these data become public
> even if restricted to all DD.
Why ? You should trust other DD if you're going to be part of Debian. If
you sh
Hello
> like your studies (beeing in a computer science PhD/MSC "helps"),
Well this might be interesting for the Debian project, but applicants
might not want this to become public knowledge. Please do not assume,
that this is for any particular reason, but merely for keeping ones
privacy.
Debi
Le Mer 12 Avril 2006 14:36, Vincent Danjean a écrit :
> Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > So to my eyes, the so called problem you raise is irrelevant. Not
> > to mention that I would feel concerned and surprised (in a bad
> > sense) if an applicant would have such issues. e.g.: if you have an
> > issue w
Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Le Mer 12 Avril 2006 08:34, Benjamin Mesing a écrit :
>> I would strongly suggest, allowing to restrict access to such a site
>> to DDs. This is because not everyone feels comfortable having
>> personal information (like your specific view on free software)
>> world-accessa
On 12 Apr 2006, Panu Kalliokoski said:
> (Please CC me on replies as I'm not subscribing the list.)
If you set Mail-Folllowup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], you would be
assured of such a CC from my MUA. I often do not catch such requests
in the body of the mail.
> The central problem and the
On 12 Apr 2006, Marc Brockschmidt verbalised:
> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> On 11 Apr 2006, Marc Brockschmidt told this:
>>> "Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> [...]
Plus sponsoring is a nice way to have experienced people look at
what a applicant is d
On 12 Apr 2006, Raphael Hertzog spake thusly:
> Except when you have a new upstream version where you should
> download the upstream tarball and check that it's the same that has
> been submitted by the applicant... who does that every time ?
I do, just as I do for every one of my own pac
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 12:32:54PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I don't think the DM concept should end the sponsorship idea. But I do
> like to have a clear indication in the changelog of who sponsored who.
> It's a pain to have to use gpg to discover who sponsored the uplo
(Please CC me on replies as I'm not subscribing the list.)
I'm currently at the "prospective NM" stage, trying to get my work into
Debian. That should give quite a different view from Marc's on the
whole subject... Of course, I may say stupid things because of my lack
of experience with the NM p
Dear DPL,
I am currently a user of Slackware GNU/Linux distribution and am now
planning to switch to Debian GNU/Linux. I am aware that there are
many CD vendors from whom I can purchase the distribution.
My question is this. Why doesn't Debian GNU/Linux sell distribution
CDs? What about Debi
Hello
> > I would strongly suggest, allowing to restrict access to such a site
> > to DDs. This is because not everyone feels comfortable having
> > personal information (like your specific view on free software)
> > world-accessable. Debian developers need to know, since you are about
> > to beco
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 11 Apr 2006, Marc Brockschmidt told this:
>> "Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> [...]
>>> Plus sponsoring is a nice way to have experienced people look at
>>> what a applicant is doing. If done seriously sponsoring is almost
>>> as mu
Heya,
Benjamin Mesing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 2.3 Separate upload permissions, system accounts and voting rights
> Unless you are not planning to have long term "second class
> developers" (i.e. developers with restricted rights), I don't think it
> is a good idea. The additional overhead I
"Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 4/11/06, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> (...)
>> 3. Conclusions
>> ==
>>
>> (..)
>> I'd like to implement the proposals I made in (2.1) and (2.2) as fast as
>> possible, especially applying the rules in (2.2) to pe
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> Well, the idea has been proposed some times now. It has its advantages,
> but there are still some problems - updating a page on wiki.d.o takes
> time [1], so they tend to become outdated.
If it becomes outdated, then the applicant has to update
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt:
>> For package maintainers, an intensive package check follows. If
>> everything went fine, these people get upload permissions for *these*
>> packages (and nothing else). If they want to adopt new packages, their
>> AM does a package-check once a
Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> I am not sure 6 months of sustained contributions is really necessary, I
> think "several months" or "sustained contributions" are alright, where
> both measures are up for interpretation depending on the type, quality
> and quantity of the contribu
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
>
> > I don't think there's any way to make that easier until we have
> > more people who fit into those positions wanting to become DDs.
>
> It's a bit more complex than that. You, for example, were active on
> -legal and in a few other non-technical w
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Le Mar 11 Avril 2006 18:40, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt a écrit :
>> I'd like to implement the proposals I made in (2.1) and (2.2) as fast
>> as possible, especially applying the rules in (2.2) to people already
>> in the queue waiting for an AM.
> I agree
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> * Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060412 12:33]:
> > I believe many people would be happy with the right to upload only some
> > specific packages. I know for example a TeX expert who'd like to
> > maintaine some TeX-related packages but who doesn
* Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060412 12:33]:
> I believe many people would be happy with the right to upload only some
> specific packages. I know for example a TeX expert who'd like to
> maintaine some TeX-related packages but who doesn't want to become full DD
> because he is not interes
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 02:03:10PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> Applicants with fast/free internet connections, local mirrors and so
> on can do the bookwork needed for the template questions without much
> pain. A lot of the questions repeatedly confirm an ability to look
> stuff up and restate it, tes
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Sorry for the portuguese, Roberto is asking about how he can
fix some images that are with incorrect MD5 but he doesn't want to
download everything again. I'm pointing him to d-user-portuguese and
explaining what -project is about.
Le Mer 12 Avril 2006 14:57, Neil McGovern a écrit :
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 08:43:48AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > Le Mer 12 Avril 2006 08:34, Benjamin Mesing a écrit :
> > > I would strongly suggest, allowing to restrict access to such a
> > > site to DDs. This is because not everyone feel
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 1. Current situation
Thank you for summarising.
> [...] and the excellent introduction given in the
> talk Hanna Wallach, Moray Allan and Dafydd Harries held last year [2].
> [2] http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~hmw26/publications/debconf5.pdf
I'll refer to
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 08:43:48AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Le Mer 12 Avril 2006 08:34, Benjamin Mesing a écrit :
> > I would strongly suggest, allowing to restrict access to such a site
> > to DDs. This is because not everyone feels comfortable having
> > personal information (like your spe
* Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060412 14:41]:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 12:43:22PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > * Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060412 12:11]:
> > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 01:25:28AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > > > Could you report such sponsors, so we
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 12:43:22PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060412 12:11]:
> > On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 01:25:28AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > > Could you report such sponsors, so we may take their
> > > sponsorship privileges away?
> > There
* Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060412 12:11]:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 01:25:28AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > Could you report such sponsors, so we may take their
> > sponsorship privileges away?
>
> There's no technical way to do this (yet), as far as I can see.
There is -
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> > That's true except that I hope that someone won't get upload rights after
> > their
> > very first sponsored uploads. The DD should give upload rights to the
> > contributor
> > *only* after several sponsored upload that went well.
>
> That's only
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 11:46:31AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Documenting stuff in a wiki-like page may help *a little bit* prior to
> the AM assignment, but not very much. And about nothing after that, as
> the AM already asks (if he uses my templates or something based on that)
> for the contr
[ Why the crosspost ? I responded only on -project since that where's Marc
pointed the mail followup to ]
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 10622 March 1977, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>
> > And the bigger problem is that people who are ready to become DD may be
> > waiting on the AM ass
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 01:25:28AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Could you report such sponsors, so we may take their
> sponsorship privileges away?
There's no technical way to do this (yet), as far as I can see.
Michael
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* Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060412 08:39]:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> > Isn't this almost equivalent of giving them their Account directly
> > and ask them to get any new package reviewed by someone else?
> > (As there is nothing to avoid their build rules or mainta
On 10622 March 1977, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> And the bigger problem is that people who are ready to become DD may be
> waiting on the AM assignation list while people who are not ready are
> currently learning with the help of an AM whose job should not be to play
> the sponsor of the applicant (
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 04:07:47PM -0300, Roberto-cpd wrote:
>
> Baixei as imagens .iso do site ftp://linorg.usp.br/iso/debian aparentemente
> sem problemas.
> As imagens 7 e 8 est?o como ".iso.tmp" e vou tentar recuperar atraves do
> cygwim + rsync.
> As imagens 1,5 e 9 est?o com o md5sum incor
Hi,
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> perhaps able to fix most of the problems. Please note that this is *my*
> opinion, not something decided by the NM team.
Thanks for starting this discussion !
> Quite a lot of applicants are frustrated by the NM process. The reason
> for t
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