Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Oleksandr Moskalenko
* Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-18 22:44:13 +0100]: > Am 2006-03-14 12:13:50, schrieb Manoj Srivastava: > > > If these Jane/Joe users want a reliable copy of the message, > > then they should subscribe to the mailing list -- or hope that an > > explicit request for a CC

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2006-03-20 Thread mr.grumpass
Question, I am a newbie trying linux for the first time. I have installed a couple different linux flavors trying to find the best one for me. In the others e.g. xandros downloading themes was a nightmare. I am still trying to figure out the install thing, unlike the simplicity of Win XP. I dont

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Brett Parker
On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 02:37:53PM +, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Feel free and write bugreports against those MUA's which lakes > > of features and do not respect standards... This will make > > the life of GUI/Point-and-Click $USERS much easie

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread MJ Ray
Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Feel free and write bugreports against those MUA's which lakes > of features and do not respect standards... This will make > the life of GUI/Point-and-Click $USERS much easier... You mean like mutt, which does not respect standards and implements the buggy

Re: uol.com.br and petsupermarket

2006-03-20 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 11:55:54PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2006-03-15 15:33:28, schrieb Marc Haber: > > Looks like the CR system is quite selective in whom it bothers. I am a > > regular poster on the Debian mailing lists, and I never receive these > > CR messages. > > Maybe your (exce

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 10:10:47PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > I am on the Debian mailinglists since 04/1999 and never had > problems with the lists. Basically, it's usually the other way around. > I do not know, what we can do with such thread One resists the urge to participate. Greetin

Re: uol.com.br and petsupermarket

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-15 14:45:25, schrieb Lars Wirzenius: > > There were < 100 subscribers from uol.com.br and that ISPs challenge / > > response mechanism is affecting (at least) > 5000 people. > > First, the hurt of even one innocent person being kicked out is, again > in my opinion, bigger than the pain

Re: uol.com.br and petsupermarket

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-15 15:33:28, schrieb Marc Haber: > Looks like the CR system is quite selective in whom it bothers. I am a > regular poster on the Debian mailing lists, and I never receive these > CR messages. Maybe your (excessiv) spamfilter has eaten it? It seems, becasue I have gotten more then 100

Re: uol.com.br and petsupermarket

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
** * Do not Cc: me, because I am on THIS list, if I write here * * Keine Cc: am mich, bin auf DIESER Liste wenn ich hier schreibe * ** Hello Anand and all others.

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-17 09:49:19, schrieb Matthias Julius: > Sven Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'm still waiting for anyone to recommend a MUA which works on at least > > Linux and Windows (yes, that evil OS), preferably also on MacOSX and > > supports MFT. > > Gnus. Mutt > Others might be a

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-16 21:33:18, schrieb Sven Mueller: > I'm still waiting for anyone to recommend a MUA which works on at least > Linux and Windows (yes, that evil OS), preferably also on MacOSX and > supports MFT. You should use "mutt", which works on linux, BeOS, MacOSX and since some time now on Win32

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-14 12:13:50, schrieb Manoj Srivastava: > If these Jane/Joe users want a reliable copy of the message, > then they should subscribe to the mailing list -- or hope that an > explicit request for a CC is honored. Nothing actually guarantees a CC > anyway -- but setting MFT incre

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-13 20:20:00, schrieb Benjamin Seidenberg: > How many Joe/Jane users do you think can handle the complexity and > different paradigm required by mutt? These mailers are easy to use, and > are well integrated into the desktop environment. Most importantly, they > offer GUI/Point-and-Cl

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-13 16:02:18, schrieb Margarita Manterola: > Thunderbird is a very respected MUA. There's a big group of people > who don't feel comfortable writing mails from mutt (or the like), and > I don't think it's such a good idea to take into account only people > who can use a console-client t

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-15 11:11:18, schrieb Wouter Verhelst: > Whoa, then you must not like many mail clients. :-) > Manoj, there are little mail clients who allow to add arbitrary headers > to mails. Really. The only exceptions are console-based clients, like > mutt and gnus. I don't even think Pine can do

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-13 11:05:50, schrieb Manoj Srivastava: > > Thunderbird, as well as many other MUAs doesn't allow you to set > > arbitrary headers, including M-F-T. > > I guess it is time to move to a more capable MUA, no? FullACK! I am on the Debian mailinglists since 04/1999 and never had p

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-11 02:42:27, schrieb Matthias Julius: > I am using Gnus. I have it setup to send followups to the list only. > When I do a followup it goes to the list, a reply goes to the sender > and a "very wide reply" goes to both. I wonder what the group-reply > command in mutt does. r Re

Re: Private copies of list replies (Was: Re: buildd and experimental)

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-03 19:28:50, schrieb Glenn Maynard: > It's even worse with complex cross-posting, where several lists and several > individuals are being copied. Neither list-reply nor group-reply does the Can you imagin, that peoples hate cros-postres? Cross-Posting is DISCURAGED!!! Greetings M

Re: Private copies of list replies

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-11 01:34:09, schrieb Glenn Maynard: > On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 12:49:00AM -0500, Matthias Julius wrote: > > Anyway, since MFT is not a formal standard does your MUA not have an > > easy way to CC the sender? > > Mutt has a configuration var somewhere to tell it whether to CC or not > by

Re: Private copies of list replies (Was: Re: buildd and experimental)

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi John, Am 2006-03-01 09:48:45, schrieb John H. Robinson, IV: > In the signature would probably be poor, as the lowlighting would hide > it, and who really reads the signatures, anyway? The best place is > probably right before the signature. A simple one line things: Please cc > me, I am not su

Re: Private copies of list replies (Was: Re: buildd and experimental)

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-02 04:25:27, schrieb Glenn Maynard: > Just as a thought, I wonder if it's possible for the list software to > automatically add an MFT header, if it's missing, indicating that only > people not subscribed to the list, or explicitly in the CC list, should > be CC'd. The "Mail-Followup-T

Re: About expulsion requests

2006-03-20 Thread MJ Ray
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 16 Mar 2006, MJ Ray spake thusly: > > I disagree. The candidate only seems to get that choice > > after there are enough people gathered against them. When a > > totally crap request collapses without getting Q supporters, > > the request and supporters det