Re: Bug#212895: Official Logo is not DFSG Free (with patch)

2003-10-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 09:48:48PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > I question why the Debian bong should not also be under the same > license. Cool. Where can I buy a Debian bong? -- G. Branden Robinson| If you want your name spelled Debian GNU/Linux |

Re: Proposal - Free the Debian Open Use logo

2003-10-05 Thread Simon Law
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 07:20:37PM -0700, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 05:07:14PM -0400, Simon Law wrote: > > I'm not sure I'm interpreting you correctly. Are you suggesting > > that I suspend this proposal until a more definitive position can be > > reached by the trademar

Re: Bug#212895: Official Logo is not DFSG Free (with patch)

2003-10-05 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 09:42:03PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > > I may have misread this thread, but it sounds as if you are trying to > > ignore that such an absurdity exists, rather than fix it. > > Now I confess to being a little slack in the concept of software freedon > (for instance I us

Re: Proposal - Free the Debian Open Use logo

2003-10-05 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 05:07:14PM -0400, Simon Law wrote: > On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 01:25:18PM -0700, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > > Since there are already people working on this, I think that the most > > constructive thing will be to follow up on the DPL's announcement in > > regards to the tradema

Re: Proposal - Free the Debian Open Use logo

2003-10-05 Thread Simon Law
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 06:54:55PM -0400, Eric Sharkey wrote: > > Well, that's a simplification. But Debian can modify the logo > > to refer to something else, say goldfish, while other people cannot. So > > the playing field isn't open, so it isn't DFSG-free. > > You are completely misrepre

Re: Proposal - Free the Debian Open Use logo

2003-10-05 Thread Eric Sharkey
> > > In any case, the logo violates DFSG 8, so that trumps the > > > affordance given by DFSG 4. If I extracted it from Debian and used it > > > to refer to something else, I would be disallowed from modifying it. > > > > Again, that's not how I interpret it. The logo license says the logo ha

Re: Proposal - Free the Debian Open Use logo

2003-10-05 Thread Simon Law
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 05:48:42PM -0400, Eric Sharkey wrote: > > [ You e-mailed me privately, so I'll keep it that way. But I'll remove > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] to keep Manoj's INBOX smaller. ] > > You can quote/forward me anywhere if you like. devel-announce is supposed > to be very low traffic

Re: Discussion - Free the Debian Open Use logo

2003-10-05 Thread Simon Law
M-F-T set to debian-project. On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 06:23:40PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:35:14PM -0400, Simon Law wrote: > > The old Open Use logo was not DFSG-free, so we really shouldn't be > > shipping it in main. > > Where are we shipping it in main? And even if

Re: Proposal - Free the Debian Open Use logo

2003-10-05 Thread Simon Law
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 01:25:18PM -0700, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > Since there are already people working on this, I think that the most > constructive thing will be to follow up on the DPL's announcement in > regards to the trademark committee and to get involved in the efforts > already underway.

Re: Skolelinux and the "Debian Labs" idea

2003-10-05 Thread Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader
* Anthony Towns [2003-09-20 17:07]: > By contrast, I wouldn't have a problem in principle with, eg, "HP > Debian Labs". I'd also have no problems with this. However, I also think that the Debian Labs should not be used to make a profit. I think a HP Debian Labs should be of a similar nature as