G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-03 Thread Stephen Allen
Greetings: I've been attempting to get Debian-PPC installed on this machine for several days now, without much luck. I've searched for an install 'how-to' and settled on the "G3-Beige" how to on the Debian Wiki. There is a lot of conflicting advice on installing on these old world machines in

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-03 Thread Stephen Allen
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 11:54:47AM -0700, Brad Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 08:28:38PM +0200, Jos? JORGE wrote: > > As far as I know, G3 is not oldworld. > > The earliest G3 systems were oldworld. In particular, the beige PowerMac G3 > desktop systems and the first few models of PowerB

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-03 Thread Stephen Allen
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 08:28:38PM +0200, Jos? JORGE wrote: > A Wednesday 3 September 2008 14:22:01, Stephen Allen escreveu: > > I've searched for an install 'how-to' and settled on the "G3-Beige" how to > > on the Debian Wiki. There is a lot of conflicti

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-03 Thread Stephen Allen
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 09:54:21PM +0200, Simon Vallet wrote: > Hi Stephen, Hey Simon, thanks for the help. > On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 12:22:01 +0000 > Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ ...] > > I don't have a Linux workstation available to make boot floppies; Ca

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-03 Thread Stephen Allen
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 05:12:27PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > Stephen, > > I used to do quite a lot of this kind of stuff. > > Search the debian-powerpc and debian-boot archives for my name > ("rbthomas") and "Boot-X". I posted (about Sarge timeframe) several > "how-to" articles on using MacO

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-03 Thread Stephen Allen
On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 12:32:43AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Stephen, Hi Risto: > In your place, I would take the following route: > > In OS 9: > > (1) download BootX from > http://penguinppc.org/historical/benh/BootX_1.2.2.sit, and install it, > > (2) download Debian kernel and in

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-06 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 12:04:09AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 2008/9/6, James Kozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > hi > > reading this email again makes me wonder if this step has been omitted: > > > > Insert the PPC install disk and navigate to the /install/powerpc folder. > > Copy vmlinux (the

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-07 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 10:42:36AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 2008/9/7, Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [ ...] > > In terms of the disk partioning. Is the MacOS partition supposed to be > > overwritten and that's why the > > installer wants to instal

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-07 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 10:42:36AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 2008/9/7, Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > The install is where I had the issue(s), of going through the steps and > > hanging when it came to installing > > the quik bootloader. I

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-08 Thread Stephen Allen
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 12:30:42AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > Stephen, > > You are so close, I can almost taste it all the way up here in New > Jersey! Yeah we're pretty close. LOL > It's too late tonite, but Monday or Tuesday, unless you succeed before > then, I'll put a spare disk in one of

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-08 Thread Stephen Allen
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 09:29:21AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 2008/9/7, Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > OK kept the MacOS partition(s). There are 7 of em put there by the MacOS 9 > > disk utility (6 small ones). > > > In Apple's par

Re: G3 Beige Tower install with BootX - help

2008-09-08 Thread Stephen Allen
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 12:58:42PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > I know it's considered impolite on this list to top-post, but Nicholas' > post is long and so close to perfect that it's worth leaving > un-disturbed. I have only one thing to add to it: It is, and the good doctor, ran into every 'g

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-08 Thread Stephen Allen
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 10:41:09AM +0100, Nicholas Helps wrote: > Hello Stephen / all, Hi Nicholas: > So, here is the way I got it to work [ ...] Excellent instructions, thanks very much Nicholas ! I'm writing this from my G3 Beige booted into Lenny-Debian using mutt. :) I'm a happy camper

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-08 Thread Stephen Allen
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 07:45:21PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > Congratulation on getting it working! That's great news. Thanks Rick for all your help ! > I have a couple of things to add to Nicholas' SxS that will help > first-timers get it "right the first time". Good idea ! The only one th

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-09 Thread Stephen Allen
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 09:17:55AM +0100, Nicholas Helps wrote: > Hello Stephen (and everyone else), Howdy Nicholas, > Being polite this time ;-) > > Glad the step by step worked. Please make sure you acknowledge Rick as well, > without this help, I would never have gotten my install working

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-09 Thread Stephen Allen
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 07:34:43PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 2008/9/8, Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [ ...] > The other IDE socket has probably the CD drive (hdc)? Maybe the spare > drive has been as a slave in its earlier life? In Linux, hda/b are > master/slave

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-09 Thread Stephen Allen
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 05:16:35PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > That's good news. I have tried to get xorg and gnome running on my test > machine, but it seems that the video chip it has isn't very well > supported. I need to open a bug report on the subject. I have 2 video cards in it. Back