Re: Red X -- not quite gone yet...

2004-08-31 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, August 30, 2004, at 04:41 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 08:23:28AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 01:58:34AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Sven Luther wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: Is it possible the objcopy is corrupting it? This is indeed a

Re: Red X saga -- success!!! (up to a point...)

2004-09-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, at 04:45 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Ok, try out : http://people.debian.org/~luther/miboot/floppy-2.6-2004.09.01 I have checked the ofonlyboot, boot and root floppies. I tried this -- the usual 30 seconds or so of floppy noises followed by "Red X" for both the

Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: > > > Oh, and btw, I'm just installing my oldworld 4400/200 mac with d-i and the > > daily built 2.4-floppy images (with root.img and root-2.img) and it seems to > > work fine - right now. I'll keep you informed in another mail. > > BTW, as of tomorrows build, the 2.6 images

Re: Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, September 17, 2004, at 01:00 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 09:42:09AM -0700, Brad Boyer wrote: [Lots of stuff about what's where in a beige G3 ...] Bottom line, Sven, what pieces of information about the G3 do you need from me? Enjoy! Rick

Re: Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, September 17, 2004, at 06:12 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 10:00:55AM +0200, Jens Schmalzing wrote: Hi, Rick Thomas writes: The 2.6 images now fit on a physical floppy, so that's good. Unfortunately, the resulting floppy doesn't boot on my G3. It

Re: Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, September 17, 2004, at 03:55 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 02:31:09AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Meanwhile, back at the 2.4 ranch... The 2.4 boot floppy read, switched to text mode, asked for root, which read, asked for language (English), then gave me a blue

Re: Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 09:55:17AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Definitively a bug in discover, could you fill a bug report against discover1 with your lspci and lspci -n output ? You won't get much help out of lspci. These are not PCI devices. The macio chip shows up as one huge PCI device,

Re: Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-09-18 Thread Rick Thomas
Jens Schmalzing wrote: > > Hi, > > Rick Thomas writes: > > > I then use ResEdit to modify the appropriate resource (any clues as > > to which? > > The resource is called CMDL. More detailed instructions are here: > > http://portal.suse.com/sdb/e

Re: Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-09-18 Thread Rick Thomas
Rick Thomas wrote: > > Jens Schmalzing wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Rick Thomas writes: > > > > > I then use ResEdit to modify the appropriate resource (any clues as > > > to which? > > > > The resource is called CMDL. More det

No HFS driver, and "change install priority" menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-20 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports In addition to the already noted problems with 2.4 PowerPC boot floppies, I have two requests for modules to be included on the root or root-2: 1) The "change installation priority" menu item should be available *very* early in the install process. Best would b

Re: No HFS driver, and "change install priority" menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-23 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 06:13 PM, Sven Luther wrote: I understand the size constraints. But isn't that the reason why we added the "root-2" floppy? Would adding hfs and/or hfsplus kick us over the edge into "root-3" land? We could indeed add it to root-2, but i would prefer to g

Re: No HFS driver, and "change install priority" menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-24 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 06:45 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 06:30:48PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 06:13 PM, Sven Luther wrote: I understand the size constraints. But isn't that the reason why we added the "root

Re: No HFS driver, and "change install priority" menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-24 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 06:13 PM, Sven Luther wrote: I wrote: I understand the size constraints. But isn't that the reason why we added the "root-2" floppy? Would adding hfs and/or hfsplus kick us over the edge into "root-3" land? We could indeed add it to root-2, but i would p

Re: Oldworld Serial Console

2004-09-24 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, September 24, 2004, at 09:17 AM, Gregory Seidman wrote: In fact, I can attest to using an ordinary Mac printer cable between my Oldworld Mac running Linux and my dual G4 with a Keyspan adapter and running MacOS X. I use minicom on the Mac and have set up quik, not BootX, to allow m

Re: Oldworld Serial Console

2004-09-24 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 08:17 PM, Russell Hires wrote: Hello all...I've got a Beige G3/266 w/ voodoo3 card, that doesn't give console output in 2.6.x kernels. So...I want to do a serial console to some other machine. I'm hoping there is some way to do this with BootX and either my p

Re: install (boot) problem sarge powerbook G3 (wallstreet)

2004-09-25 Thread Rick Thomas
Sebastian, I put this aside when I first received it to answer later, then got busy and forgot to answer! I apologize! Did you figure out how to solve your problem? If not, please reply and I'll try to help. Enjoy! Rick On Saturday, September 18, 2004, at 11:21 AM, Sebastiaan Molenaar

Re: install (boot) problem sarge powerbook G3 (wallstreet)

2004-09-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, September 25, 2004, at 04:47 AM, Sebastiaan Molenaar wrote: For the moment I've got it working with bootX but I would really like to get it working with quik. Unfortunately, that part has never worked for me, either. For what it's worth, using BootX isn't so bad. You can fa

Re: No HFS driver, and "change install priority" menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, September 25, 2004, at 04:13 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 01:50:34AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: ROOT-2) The "root-2" floppy is a bunch of "udeb"s for all the components that wouldn't fit on "root". [This is a good desig

Re: install (boot) problem sarge powerbook G3 (wallstreet)

2004-09-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, September 25, 2004, at 07:47 PM, Sebastiaan Molenaar wrote: On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 20:08, Rick Thomas wrote: For the moment I've got it working with bootX but I would really like to get it working with quik. Unfortunately, that part has never worked for me, either. For

Re: No HFS driver, and "change install priority" menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, September 25, 2004, at 04:49 PM, Colin Watson wrote: Bringing things back into sync with other architectures is worth it on its own, and reducing the number of floppies required for an installation was one of the original goals of d-i. After my changes, there's *loads* of room lef

Re: Open Firmware "boot" parameters -- Was: yaboot error - load size is too small

2004-09-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, September 25, 2004, at 08:55 AM, Derrik Pates wrote: Steve Richter wrote: The 4 files ( yaboot, yaboot.conf, root.bin, linux.bin ) have been copied to the root level of the hard drive. boot the iMac to the open firmware prompt run the command: boot hd:0,yaboot There's no parti

Re: No HFS driver, and "change install priority" menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-23 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 11:02 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 05:05:58PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Package: installation-reports In addition to the already noted problems with 2.4 PowerPC boot floppies, I have two requests for modules to be included on the root or

Re: Oldworld Serial Console

2004-09-24 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, September 24, 2004, at 02:08 AM, Brad Boyer wrote: I haven't tried it on ppc, but I use it on 68k macs sometimes. I usually use ZTerm on another mac and a standard mac printer cable for the connection. Don't you need a null-modem cable? Or is there something I don't know about

Re: Sarge on OldWorld Mac - No root device

2004-09-26 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Duane, Did you install a 2.6 or 2.4 kernel? The 2.6 kernel requires an initial ramdisk. The 2.4 kernel (usually) does not. The kernel installer leaves a kernel and a tailored initrd in the /boot partition. You need to copy them into the appropriate places inside the MacOS System folder

Re: Open Firmware "boot" parameters -- Was: yaboot error - load size is too small

2004-09-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sunday, September 26, 2004, at 07:18 AM, Steve Richter wrote: On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 00:03:36 -0400, Rick Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Derrik, Can you tell us where the syntax and semantics for this stuff is documented -- what one puts after "boot" in talking to Open F

Re: Sarge on OldWorld Mac - No root device

2004-09-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sunday, September 26, 2004, at 08:34 AM, Duane Cottle wrote: I'm going to start another thread concerning the fact that my scsi hard drive wasn't detected during the entire installation. You probably have a "mesh" SCSI controller. Almost all OldWorld Apple machines had them. Early on i

Re: install (boot) problem sarge powerbook G3 (wallstreet)

2004-09-27 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, September 27, 2004, at 03:13 PM, Sebastiaan Molenaar wrote: On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 05:42, Rick Thomas wrote: Actually, miboot is a fully-fledged bootloader. The only thing it needs is a very small HFS partition to run out of (just big enough for the initrd image and the compressed

Re: Sarge on OldWorld Mac - No root device

2004-09-27 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, September 27, 2004, at 04:40 PM, Joey Hess wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: I've submitted several bug reports on this topic. The developers know about it, and may fix it sometime. It's not as easy to fix as it sounds, because the mesh controller is not on the regular PCI b

Re: install (boot) problem sarge powerbook G3 (wallstreet)

2004-09-28 Thread Rick Thomas
On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, at 03:43 AM, Sebastiaan Molenaar wrote: Hmm, so technically I'm supposed to pay Apple for the use of BootX / miboot ? But in practice, nobody does pay, and Apple doesn't ask. It's easier for all concerned -- especially Apple -- to just ignore the issue and

Re: install (boot) problem sarge powerbook G3 (wallstreet)

2004-09-28 Thread Rick Thomas
There is a project to produce a free (as in "no IP encumbrances") version of miboot in a clean-room environment. Contact Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> if you want to help! Rick

Re: Sarge on OldWorld Mac - No root device

2004-09-28 Thread Rick Thomas
on, Sep 27, 2004 at 04:40:16PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: I've submitted several bug reports on this topic. The developers know about it, and may fix it sometime. It's not as easy to fix as it sounds, because the mesh controller is not on the regular PCI bus, so

Re: No HFS driver, and "change install priority" menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, September 25, 2004, at 04:49 PM, Colin Watson wrote: After my changes, there's *loads* of room left for things. We were just being inefficient, that's all. Well, I just took a look at the latest floppy images. It looks like everything that's there fits with room to spare --

Re: No HFS driver, and "change install priority" menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, September 29, 2004, at 01:30 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, However... There is one important thing missing from the boot disks. Specifically, the "System" file is zero length. This is true of both boot and ofonlyboot for both 2.4 and 2.6. It won't boot that way. Arg, again. I

Re: Bug#273986: Quasi-successful Installation - Sarge netinst rc1 on Beige G3

2004-09-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, September 29, 2004, at 02:56 AM, Duane Cottle wrote: Partition notes: As I was playing around in the partitioner, I decided to delete the 32.2K partion #1 on the scsi drive called Apple. After the partitions were displayed once again on the screen, I noticed a 32.2K hole on the

Re: Bug#273986: Quasi-successful Installation - Sarge netinst rc1 on Beige G3

2004-09-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 30, 2004, at 12:11 AM, Duane Cottle wrote: Hi Rick, Sure does. I spent five hours reading your posts since March today. I take that as the highest of compliments. (<-8) Thank you, sir! It's already saved me a lot of trouble testing this stuff. Been working with boot

Re: Red X -- not quite gone yet...

2004-09-01 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven, It's 2:15 AM, and I've got a meeting tomorrow at work, so I won't be able to test these tonight. I'll try to get to them tomorrow (9/1) in the evening (US East Coast time). Please do me a favor and loop-mount the images to see if they have all the expected pieces and the pieces are of

Re: 64bit PPC and Debian

2004-11-05 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 5, 2004, at 11:32 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Well, go and look, the size of this beast make you maybe misinterpret the size of it. There is only 2 drive bays though, but three pci-x or pci slots, which will probably be enough for whatever you want to do. I suppose that the expansion cards

Re: Re: Old world mac

2004-11-10 Thread Rick Thomas
Install MacOS-9. Then use the BootX boot-loader. (or 8.5 or 8.6, if 9 won't run on the S-900. I've never seen one of those, so I don't know what will run on it and what wont. I'm told that BootX even works with MacOS 7.5, if your machine can run it and you have a floppy drive to install it f

"free" miboot on OldWorld Mac

2004-11-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 11, 2004, at 3:44 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 03:12:49PM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: Here are a few practical suggestions: Has anyone looked at "inside Macintosh" or some of the other early Mac technical docs? I wonder if this code is, maybe, described there? The rea

Re: Netatalk over a wireless router?

2004-12-11 Thread Rick Thomas
The wireless router is probably not a "multi-protocol" router. If so, it only handles IP, not AppleTalk. Try connecting to your printers and fileservers via IP. AppleTalk has its good points, but it's no longer under active maintenance. We just need to learn to live with it. Sigh! Rick

Re: Netatalk over a wireless router?

2004-12-12 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 11, 2004, at 10:47 PM, Jacob S wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:35:04 -0500 Rick Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The wireless router is probably not a "multi-protocol" router. If so, it only handles IP, not AppleTalk. Try connecting to your printers and fileservers

Re: where to download BootX

2005-07-13 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 13, 2005, at 6:11 PM, Clive Menzies wrote: On (13/07/05 23:38), Rainer Gutkas wrote: I can't find BootX anymore. All links seem to broken. Is there anywhere I can download it? In the installation manual: the BootX distribution, available from http://penguinppc.org/projects/bo

Re: where to download BootX

2005-07-14 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 14, 2005, at 5:00 PM, Rainer Gutkas wrote: Rick Thomas schrieb: Or take a look at http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/bootx/ and http://penguinppc.org/~benh/ These's are the broken links I was talking about. But I received a version of BootX yesterday through the lis

Re: where to download BootX

2005-07-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 17, 2005, at 9:13 AM, Rainer Gutkas wrote: When I tried to download I got redirected to a site which said page couldn't be found. That what made me think those links are broken. But maybe the download site was just temporarly down. Rainer That's probably what happened. In any case, yo

Re: powerpc d-i daily builds reactivated, use 2.6.12 kernels, including 64bit kernels, miboot floppies dropped for now.

2005-08-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 19, 2005, at 9:35 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 05:00:44AM -0300, Rog?rio Brito wrote: On Aug 18 2005, Sven Luther wrote: I was forced to disable the floppy builds for now, since they failed to build, and the 2.6.12 kernels are 200K too big anyway for miboot floppies,

Re: powerpc d-i daily builds reactivated, use 2.6.12 kernels, including 64bit kernels, miboot floppies dropped for now.

2005-08-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 20, 2005, at 4:14 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Well, the sarge 2.4 miboot floppies already installs a 2.6 kernel (or should), and if what you are hinting at is on-the-fly takeover of kernels, this is not possible (yet :). That's exactly what I was proposing (on-the-fly takeover of kernels)

Re: powerpc d-i daily builds reactivated, use 2.6.12 kernels, including 64bit kernels, miboot floppies dropped for now.

2005-08-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 20, 2005, at 4:14 AM, Sven Luther wrote: The plan is that in the year or so upto the etch release, we will trim down the 2.6 kernel to miboot-size, free miboot or find a better solution, and fix the miboot+2.6 worked once in oldenbourg 2004 and never since problem. Removing the lega

Re: powerpc d-i daily builds reactivated, use 2.6.12 kernels, including 64bit kernels, miboot floppies dropped for now.

2005-08-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 20, 2005, at 11:34 AM, vinai wrote: One thing to keep in mind is that the swim3 driver in the Old World Pmacs hasn't been properly updated for the 2.6 series of kernels. Last I checked, I think the driver now compiles, but I can't remember if it even works. I'll take a look soon. A whi

Re: powerpc d-i daily builds reactivated, use 2.6.12 kernels, including 64bit kernels, miboot floppies dropped for now.

2005-08-21 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 21, 2005, at 10:22 AM, vinai wrote: On Sun, August 21, 2005 6:47, Derrik Pates wrote: On Sun, Aug 21, 2005 at 12:27:51AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Does it help to remember that SMP-safe is irrelevant to OldWorld Pmacs, since there are none-such? Actually, that's not true - I h

Re: powerpc d-i daily builds reactivated, use 2.6.12 kernels, including 64bit kernels, miboot floppies dropped for now.

2005-08-21 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 21, 2005, at 6:21 PM, Rogério Brito wrote: On Aug 20 2005, Rick Thomas wrote: NewWorld Macs can boot off of CDs, so these boot floppies are only necessary for OldWorld PowerMacs, which, being out of production, have a fixed unchanging set of devices. That is false, as you can

Re: got quik working with OldWorld G3 Beige 233MHz

2004-10-06 Thread Rick Thomas
On Tuesday, October 5, 2004, at 03:22 PM, Duane Cottle wrote: It's been a week of reading and fumbling, but I got sarge booting with quik. I'm hurrying to leave for the day, so I'll post some system details here and follow up on proceedures if clarification is requested. Wow! I'm impressed!

Re: Success: serial console works...

2004-10-06 Thread Rick Thomas
Congratulations on getting that far! I didn't know the part about having to compile in the serial console, so I haven't gotten even to that point. You've given me hope. Please keep all of us on the mailing-list up-to-date on your progress! Enjoy! Rick On Wednesday, October 6, 2004, at 11:

Re: floppy root.img sizes

2004-10-15 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 15, 2004, at 11:16 AM, Duane Cottle wrote: Hi all, Sorry if this is the wrong list for this... I have been testing daily sarge floppy install images from http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc/floppy/ for a few weeks on OldWorld Macs. That is, until October 8. Since

Re: got quik working with OldWorld G3 Beige 233MHz

2004-10-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, October 25, 2004, at 01:48 PM, Sven Luther wrote: Notice that if we manage to free miboot, a miboot kernel on a special partition may be one solution for 2.6.8 kernels with initrd. The situation may be worse than we thought. Take a look at Apple Tech Note 1189 which is availabl

Re: got quik working with OldWorld G3 Beige 233MHz

2004-10-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 12:50 PM, Brad Boyer wrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 03:50:31AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: I may be mistaken, but I believe that Well, it's not really that simple. I'll try to explain as I go along in the message. Thanks Brad! the extra det

Re: free miboot - was Re: got quik working with OldWorld G3 Beige 233MHz

2004-10-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, October 29, 2004, at 04:53 PM, Brad Boyer wrote: To support starting from just a Debian CD on all oldworld boxes as well as install a bootable system, we need to do the following: 1) Write disk drivers for SCSI and IDE (both HD and CD-ROM) 2) License the patches from Apple (or someh

Re: free miboot - was Re: got quik working with OldWorld G3 Beige 233MHz

2004-10-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, October 30, 2004, at 06:07 AM, Sebastiaan Molenaar wrote: On Sat, 2004-10-30 at 06:54, Rick Thomas wrote: ROM compatible disk and CD drivers. b) They can put up with the vagaries of Open firmware and quik for their particular hardware. Personally, I think alternative (b

Re: Can I Install AND boot a new Kernel on an OldWorld PMac?

2004-01-07 Thread Rick Thomas
Christian, 1) Please post a report on your experiences when you get things working. I have the same problem, and I'm sure others out there do too. 2) Have you tried just using "BootX" for all your booting needs? It works with no PRAM changes and allows you easy access to MacOS (indeed, you can'

Kernel 2.4.18-powerpc using BooxX

2004-01-14 Thread Rick Thomas
Hardware/Software config: PowerMac 6500/225 128MB RAM 80GB IDE hard disk used for "normal" system residency with a 1GB HFS partition for MacOS9.1 and the rest setup as Linux swap and ext2 partitions. 6GB SCSI hard disk used for "emergency/recovery" system residency with a 1GB HFS partit

Re: Kernel 2.4.18-powerpc using BootX

2004-01-14 Thread Rick Thomas
o 128 Meg. That's the max the memory bus can support on the 6500. The hardware all works a treat! Now if I could just get a modern (2.4) kernel to work... After I get 2.4 to boot, the next stop is 2.6! Enjoy! Rick Mich Lanners wrote: > > On 14 Jan, this message from Rick Thomas e

Re: Can I Install AND boot a new Kernel on an OldWorld PMac?

2004-01-15 Thread Rick Thomas
It's worth a try, and I'll try it. But I still think I've got problems once the kernel loads. After all, BootX can do that part OK, and quik isn't going to do anything more than BootX does. What explains the black screen? I tell BootX to load the 2.4.18 kernel, make sure that the "use frame buf

Re: Can I Install AND boot a new Kernel on an OldWorld PMac?

2004-01-15 Thread Rick Thomas
It can't be an XF86 configuration problem, since we've never gotten that far. The screen goes black as soon as BootX loads the new kernel, and never returns. I never see the scrolling text messages that Linux usually displays while booting. Rick Rick Thomas wrote: > > I te

Re: Can I Install AND boot a new Kernel on an OldWorld PMac?

2004-01-15 Thread Rick Thomas
ns set. And I get a 832x624 screen. Go figure! (?-/) Nathanael Hasbrouck wrote: > > On Thursday 15 January 2004 16:36, somebody named Rick Thomas inscribed this > message: > > > I tell BootX to load the 2.4.18 kernel, make sure that the "use frame > > buffer video&q

Re: Can I Install AND boot a new 2.4 Kernel on an OldWorld PMac 6500 with BootX?

2004-01-19 Thread Rick Thomas
combination that seems to do the job, and that's enough for me at 3AM! Enjoy! Rick PS: (*) I know, Christian, I could/should have been doing all this with quik instead of BootX, but since the problems were all in the Linux video driver area, using quik wouldn't have made any differ

Re: Can I Install AND boot a new 2.4 Kernel on an OldWorld PMac 6500with BootX?

2004-01-19 Thread Rick Thomas
More googling... This is all delineated ("explained" is way to strong a word!) at http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/1043.html Keep on keepin' on! Rick Rick Thomas wrote: > > 7) And finally, video modes are still black magic as far as I'm > c

Debian Installer beta2 working on an OldWorld PowerMac-6500/225

2004-01-22 Thread Rick Thomas
Hardware: PowerMac 6500/225 with 128MB of RAM and a 6GB SCSI disk partitioned as 2.5GB for MacOS, 3.0 GB for Linux root (an "all-in-one" filesystem) and 500 MB for Linux swap. It also has a SCSI CD-RW drive and a floppy drive. Software: MacOS 9.1 with Roxio "Toast" for the CD-RW drive. Follow

Re: Sarge/beta-3 on a RS6000/7025-F50 (PPC 604e, CHRP)

2004-03-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, March 20, 2004, at 01:22 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Ok, copying to debian-boot, since this is most relevant there, and to rick thomas, which volunteered to help with installation manual. Rick, this is a boot method on a chrp-rs6k ibm box. I don't know if you are familiar with

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
ng "apt-get upgrade". I' haven't tried it myself. Enjoy! Rick Thomas Ron Murray wrote: > > I've been having lots of problems getting woody installed on a Power > Mac G3 minitower (300MHz processor, 128M RAM). Being an oldworld box, I > can't boot i

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
Ron, You don't need to mess with floppies. BootX, which you are already using, works just fine -- and it handles kernels and ramdisk images that are too big for a floppy. Once you get into the debian installer, you will discover that it insists on trying to install the "yaboot" bootloader, which

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
f the new root disk. 11) Let BootX load Linux. 12) Answer the configuration questions. Will this work? Thanks, Rick Rick Thomas wrote: > Ron, > > You don't need to mess with floppies. BootX, which you are already > using, works just fine -- and it handles kernels and

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
em. I'm hoping that if I use "medium" priority, I'll be able to chose "continue without..." *before* it tries to install anything else. Is that likely to work? Rick Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 06:57:30PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > >

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven, archdetect reports powerpc/powermac_oldworld In real life, it's a beige G3 mini-tower. Hope this helps, Rick Sven Luther wrote: > >> libd-i or yaboot or something bug. Maybe archdetect is involved too. Can > you try going to the second console with alt+F2, and send the output of

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-31 Thread Rick Thomas
filesystem. After that it all worked. (Of course, there were the usual minor problems configuring video, but I expected that...) Rick Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 06:57:30PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > > Is there some way to tell d-i to not try to install a bo

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-31 Thread Rick Thomas
Rick Thomas wrote: > > This procedure worked, except for two "minor" glitches: > > 2) When it came time to reboot and run the configuration part, the > /etc/fstab file was empty so the reboot failed. I had to boot > single user and do > mount -o rem

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-31 Thread Rick Thomas
Clearly it's a bug. And I'll be submitting an installation report / bug report on this and the other bug I noticed. Probably this evening. Rick Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 12:57:13PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > > > > Rick Thomas wrote:

Re: Aptitude Problem PPC 32-bit

2021-10-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, at 3:41 AM, Dan Whitehouse wrote: > I've got a Powermac G4 running debian ppc32. > I've noticed a potential issue with aptitude. > If I run "aptitude update" I notice it never seems to complete. > It'll use 18% or so of my RAM (which is about 450mb I believe) but no > CPU.

But not on ppc64 [Re: Aptitude Problem PPC 32-bit]

2021-10-13 Thread Rick Thomas
I do not see this problem on my PowerMac G5, however. Curiouser and curiouser... Rick On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, at 3:41 AM, Dan Whitehouse wrote: >> I've got a Powermac G4 running debian ppc32. >> I've noticed a pote

Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac?

2021-12-14 Thread Rick Thomas
What is the URL for the latest Debian installer iso for a powerpc (32-bit, G4) macintosh? Is there anything I need to do (e.g. manually add a few lines to sources.list after/during the install) other than the the normal installation process (i.e. same as I would use for an amd64 machine)? Is t

Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac?

2021-12-15 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 12:53 AM, Johannes Brakensiek wrote: > Am Dienstag, dem 14.12.2021 um 17:12 -0800 schrieb Rick Thomas: >> What is the URL for the latest Debian installer iso for a powerpc >> (32-bit, G4) macintosh? >> >> Is there anything I need to do (e.g.

Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac? [failed installation -- looking for advice]

2021-12-17 Thread Rick Thomas
Installation report follows at end. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 12:53 AM, Johannes Brakensiek wrote: > Am Dienstag, dem 14.12.2021 um 17:12 -0800 schrieb Rick Thomas: >> What is the URL for the latest Debian installer iso for a powerpc >> (32-bit, G4) macintosh? >> >> Is

Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac? [failed installation -- looking for advice]

2021-12-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021, at 12:19 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello Rick! > ... > Why didn't you use any of the snapshots that you previously used and > that are known to work? ... > Use a different, known to work image. > OK, on Adrian's advice I used the NETINST iso from October 6, 2021

Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac? [failed installation -- looking for advice]

2021-12-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mon, Dec 27, 2021, at 2:56 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > If you really want to help me, I suggest that you perform systematic tests > with said > image and collect the results and summarize expected behavior and actual > behavior > of the software. Also, please always save the log

Re: systemd being pulled in during dist-upgrade

2022-02-19 Thread Rick Thomas
Try: # aptitude why systemd That may help answer the question. Rick On Sat, Feb 19, 2022, at 9:03 AM, Stan Johnson wrote: > Hello, > > On a PowerBook G3 Pismo, I just upgraded Debian SID: > # apt-get update > # apt-get upgrade > # apt-get dist-upgrade > > As part of the dist-upgrade (see below),

hfsprogs depends on libssl1.1 which is obsolete

2022-05-25 Thread Rick Thomas
The package libssl1.1 seems to have been removed from the powerpc/ppc64 archives. However the package hfsprogs depends on it. hfsprogs is vital on powerpc/ppc34 . Am I missing something? Thanks! Rick

Re: hfsprogs depends on libssl1.1 which is obsolete

2022-05-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wed, May 25, 2022, at 9:56 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello! > > On 5/26/22 00:46, Rick Thomas wrote: >> The package libssl1.1 seems to have been removed from the powerpc/ppc64 >> archives. > > Yes, there is a transition going on towards OpenSSL 3.

Re: hfsprogs depends on libssl1.1 which is obsolete

2022-05-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Fri, May 27, 2022, at 6:07 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello! > > On 5/26/22 06:56, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >>> Am I missing something? >> >> hfsprogs needs to be rebuild against OpenSSL 3.0. I will take care of it. > > This has been done now. hfsprogs 540.1.linux3-5+port

Re: hfsprogs depends on libssl1.1 which is obsolete

2022-05-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mon, May 30, 2022, at 3:46 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello Rick! > > On 5/30/22 12:24, Rick Thomas wrote: >> Sadly, it looks like this wasn't the only dependency on libssl1.1 . >> Apparently libsnmp40 also depends on it. > > Library transitions are

Re: Kernel Panic 6.5.0-1 PPC

2023-10-11 Thread Rick Thomas
Wow! I just did an update -> upgrade on my Power Mac G4 and noticed that it provides the new kernel version 6.5.0-2 . This appears to have fixed the panic-on-boot bug in version 6.5.0-1 . Big thanks for all your efforts! Rick

Re: Kernel Panic 6.5.0-1 PPC

2023-10-11 Thread Rick Thomas
OK, I stand corrected! In any case, whatever the number, it seems to be fixed. And that's what's important! Rick On Wed, Oct 11, 2023, at 2:02 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hi Rick! > > On Wed, 2023-10-11 at 01:20 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: >> I just did an upda

Re: G4 MacMini network boot of install media failing at system clock set

2016-04-26 Thread Rick Thomas
If your G4 mini is having trouble with the internal hard-drive, you might try installing to an external FireWire hard drive. Booting from FireWire is a supported feature of the NewWorld Mac OpenFirmware. While booting from USB is possible with some models, it’s not as well supported. My G4 mi

Re: G4 MacMini network boot of install media failing at system clock set

2016-04-28 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Apr 28, 2016, at 5:15 AM, Andrew Tarr wrote: > So I have now successfully installed Debian Jessie to my Mac Mini. … > The resolution is low, so everything's huge, but I'm sure I can make that > better somehow... Take a look at the “fbset” package. With it you can do command line stuff

Re: Power Mac G5: Attempting to get 2D acceleration with nouveau and 6800 Ultra

2016-04-29 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Peter, It looks like events have caught up with us. There’s now a 4.5.0 kernel in Debian testing and strong hints that the kernel in Stretch, when it’s released, will be based on 4.6. So your reconfigured 4.5.0-rc2 kernel is getting out-of-date. Which raises a couple of questions: Is th

Re: Power Mac G5: Attempting to get 2D acceleration with nouveau and 6800 Ultra

2016-05-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mon, May 2, 2016, at 07:27 AM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 05:37:07PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > > > It looks like events have caught up with us. There’s now a 4.5.0 kernel in > > Debian testing and strong hints that the k

Re: Power Mac G5: Attempting to get 2D acceleration with nouveau and 6800 Ultra

2016-05-08 Thread Rick Thomas
Sorry about your LCS! (stands for Liquid Cooling System -- the multi core G5's run *HOT*) That's a lot of work! And thanks for the hints on doing my own tinkering... It would be fun if I had the time. Unfortunately, time is something I'm short of right now. So, in the interest of getting som

Re: Power Mac G5: Attempting to get 2D acceleration with nouveau and 6800 Ultra

2016-05-08 Thread Rick Thomas
On May 8, 2016, at 11:06 PM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > Hi Rick, > > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > [...] >> Is there a hardware solution? Is there a non-Nvidia graphics card I >> could purchase and install in my PowerMac-G5 11,2 that wouldn’t

Re: Power Mac G5: Attempting to get 2D acceleration with nouveau and 6800 Ultra

2016-05-09 Thread Rick Thomas
On May 8, 2016, at 11:56 PM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > If you want to stick with your actual nvidia graphics cards (until the > bug is fixed upstream in nouveau), you are required to rebuild your > kernel and change the setting for PPC_64K_PAGES. > > refs: > https://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuil

Re: Power Mac G5: Attempting to get 2D acceleration with nouveau and 6800 Ultra

2016-05-09 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mon, May 9, 2016, at 12:24 AM, Bertrand Dekoninck wrote: > I'm still on wheezy on PowerMac7.3 with Radeon-9600 AGP (rv350). It > works without 3d (with fbdev I think) > > I did test once again Debian-8.5 last week on the same machine : it > works as well now (it was kindof broken in 8.0).

Debian Stretch package conflicts... libnettle4 libarchive13 libgnutls-deb0-28 libgnutls30

2016-05-14 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi, When I try to do aptitude full-upgrade on my Stretch Apple G4 PowerMac, I get conflicts. These do not seem to be transient — they have been there for several days. Anybody know what’s going on? Thanks! Rick > The following NEW packages will be installed: > libnettle4{a} > The following p

Re: GRUB in place of YABOOT

2016-05-24 Thread Rick Thomas
I would like to know too. Thanks! Rick On May 24, 2016, at 12:28 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > Hi there, > > Could someone please share the steps needed during an `expert32` d-i > to have grub be the default loader in place of yaboot ? > > Thanks, >

Re: CPU requirements for powerpc

2016-10-09 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 8, 2016, at 11:02 AM, Christoph Biedl wrote: > Hello, > > just to make sure I got things right: The 74xx/G4 processors are > to be supported by Debian's powerpc architecture? > > Background: On my G4 boxes I encounter SIGILL from several packages, > turns out they were built with compi

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