Re: Potential Mono removal from 32-bit big endian PowerPC in next upload

2015-08-26 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:47:07PM +0100, Jo Shields wrote: > > > On 26/08/15 22:44, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > > >I managed to get failure 1 and 2 above to go away by changing the test > >slightly: > > > >diff --git a/mcs/class/corlib/Test/System/Date

Re: Potential Mono removal from 32-bit big endian PowerPC in next upload

2015-08-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 08:58:22AM +0100, Jo Shields wrote: > Okay. At this point, I've tried testing on a different box I was > generously offered access to, and it works as well as you indicate - > so my suspicion is there is Something Weird(tm) on partch.debian.org. That's good, I think. > I i

Re: Potential Mono removal from 32-bit big endian PowerPC in next upload

2015-08-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 01:58:56PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 08:58:22AM +0100, Jo Shields wrote: > > Okay. At this point, I've tried testing on a different box I was > > generously offered access to, and it works as well as you indicate - > >

Re: Potential Mono removal from 32-bit big endian PowerPC in next upload

2015-09-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 09:48:54AM +0100, Jo Shields wrote: > If you can sign the CLA at https://cla.xamarin.com/ I can take care of > the patch process Well I looked at it and it would seem I can not. I am employed by someone, but they have nothing to do with me contributing patches to things in

Re: iceweasel 40.X.X PowerPC isn't available for Debian PPC32

2015-09-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 07:16:08PM +0200, Christian Zigotzky wrote: > Hi All, > > Iceweasel and Firefox 40.X.X PowerPC aren't available for all Ubuntu > flavours and for Debian with 32-bit userland currently. > > There are build problems: > > Iceweasel 40 build status: > https://packages.debian.

Re: iceweasel 40.X.X PowerPC isn't available for Debian PPC32

2015-09-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 07:24:48PM +0200, Christian Zigotzky wrote: > Hi All, > > Iceweasel and Firefox 40.X.X PowerPC aren't available for all Ubuntu > flavours and for Debian with 32-bit userland currently. > > There are build problems: > > Iceweasel 40 build status: > https://packages.debian.

Re: Potential Mono removal from 32-bit big endian PowerPC in next upload

2015-09-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Sep 07, 2015 at 03:42:03PM +0100, Jo Shields wrote: > I can get things in under a "trivial" exception. One patch is in, the > other is stuck in "please rewrite this" hell @ > https://github.com/mono/referencesource/pull/16 - I'll try to get to it > when I have time, but I have a backlog of

Re: Potential Mono removal from 32-bit big endian PowerPC in next upload

2015-09-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 04:24:10PM +0100, Jo Shields wrote: > 3.16.0-4-powerpc64 > > partch.debian.org, the porterbox where it fails: > cpu: POWER7 (architected), altivec supported > model: IBM,8231-E2B I am running on a 8231-E1C, so not very different. ... processor : 23 c

Re: Potential Mono removal from 32-bit big endian PowerPC in next upload

2015-09-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 08:27:44AM +0100, Jo Shields wrote: > It's not the silicon - it failed on a G5 XServe as well > > It's not gcc - I did a successful build on gcc5. > > It's not the kernel version - it succeeded on a Mac Mini with > 3.16.0-4-powerpc... actually... You've been using a ppc64

Re: Potential Mono removal from 32-bit big endian PowerPC in next upload

2015-09-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 03:13:56PM +0100, Jo Shields wrote: > porpora has the same ppc64 kernel as partch, libc 2.19-19 > > That's an interesting idea. Try building from > http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/m/mono/mono_4.0.4.1+dfsg-1.dsc > which bundles a matched monolite generated from its o

Re: PowerPC notebooks

2015-10-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 02:49:13PM -0300, Breno Leitao wrote: > It seems a new a new 4-core 64-bits PPC laptop is coming. It will be using a > Freescale e6500 processor. > > http://www.powerpc-notebook.org/en/ > > This processor is based on V2.06 ISA, but it is still not clear for me if only > PP

Re: PowerPC notebooks

2015-10-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 10:12:21PM +0300, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote: > (CC'ing the founder of the project, Roberto ) > > As I'm actually one of the people involved in my spare time in the > project, the truth is in the middle. It can run little-endian code, but > it does not have VSX, and its

Re: CD Debian Lenny

2015-10-20 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 01:54:09AM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: > Hi Art, > > I doubt you can buy a Lenny DVD these days. Your best bet is to find a > friend with a working DVD burner. > > After you've got a bootable DVD, take a look at the documentation that > Narcis Garcia linked to in his reply.

Re: A proposal and a challenge

2015-12-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 12:39:00PM -0500, Joe Nosay wrote: > I know that everyone is familiar with the one laptop per child program; > and, that is good. Let's take it one step further. The debian team wants to > build a powerpc laptop. FreeBSD is working on the POWER8 with the PPC team. > The prob

Re: Debian PowerPC and PowerPC Notebook.

2015-12-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 06:09:28AM +, Fadi Osman wrote: > Hello, > I'm contacting you on the behalf of the PowerPC Notebook project > team.(http://www.powerpc-notebook.org) > As you might already know, we are a group of volunteers collaborating towards > building a notebook around the Freesca

Re: Debian PowerPC and PowerPC Notebook.

2015-12-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 01:35:42PM -0200, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo wrote: > To access more physical memory? But sure, they could run a 64-bit kernel > with a 32-bit userspace. That's certainly how I have been running larger powerpc machines for years. > But since this is going to be used as

Re: Debian PowerPC and PowerPC Notebook.

2015-12-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 08:31:39PM +0100, Linux User #330250 wrote: > Running 32-bit vs. 64-bit on powerpc makes me wonder… Is there a > multilib version of Debian powerpc? Well there are packages like lib64readline5 and libc6-ppc64 which provide 64 bit libraries as part of 32bit debian powerpc.

Re: Debian PowerPC and PowerPC Notebook.

2015-12-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 08:55:12PM +, Fadi Osman wrote: > Hello Len, > I am checking with the others before answering you questions. > But I remember one of the reasons is that we were worried that powerpc would > be eventually dropped in favor of ppc64 and ppc64el... Well I see very little h

Re: Debian 8 on Late 2005 G5, Graphics Issues

2015-12-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 07:25:54AM +1100, Peter Saisanas wrote: > Hi Rick, > > The only kernel i have in my google drive link that is more or less a > typical Debian kernel config with tweaks was the initial 3.18.16 kernel i > originally had available. IIRC, should be in the google shared drive li

Re: Powermac g5 strange colors with gui

2015-12-31 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 04:05:07PM +0100, Linux User #330250 wrote: > I've got the same. It is the Original (2003) and "Late 2003". > I had trouble installing Debian on my PowerMac7,2 as I wanted a 64-bit > version. I now understand that you should use the regular PowerPC based > distribution "powe

Re: Powermac g5 strange colors with gui

2016-01-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 04:45:16PM +0100, Richard Kuenz wrote: > Hello , > > can someone please help me to install Wheezy on a Powermac G5? > > > When i boot in open firmware > > and then do > > > boot cd:,install yaboot > > > it says alwys "cd not found" I was under the impression that yo

Re: Re: glibc recompile - optimized for G5 cpu target

2016-01-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 08:31:39PM +1100, Peter Saisanas wrote: > Hi Brock, > I have tried lmbench and recompiled glibc 2.21-6 with -O3 and -O2 > optimizations with the cflags below: > extra_cflags = -mcpu=G5 -mtune=G5 -maltivec -mabi=altivec > > I haven't actually seen any marked difference to th

Re: Powerpc 64bit kernel build

2016-01-25 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:09:32PM -0500, Roosevelt Littleton wrote: > Do I need to use a 64bit chroot to build a kernel for the G5? I of course > notice there is no powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc- to export. What's the debian > way for completing this task? No gcc in debian powerpc supports -m32 and -m

Re: POWER8-based Desktop machine

2016-02-03 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 03:34:35PM +0100, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > Looks nice. As user of a PowerStation, my main question is: > how noisy will it be when fans kick in? Proably not bad. The 130W TDP for some models is no worse than a high end P4 was. Even 190W is less than most high end gaming v

Re: 32bit PowerPC

2016-02-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 04:56:14PM -0500, k...@kirkg.us wrote: > Hello all, > Does anyone still do anything with 32bit PowerPC? If so, I have a handful > of 32bit PowerPC laptops that I'm willing to donate to the cause. If there > is any interest, please let me know. I can outline what I have eit

Re: no password on G4

2016-02-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 06:35:15PM +0100, Klaus Becker wrote: > Finally I found a CDROM. But I tried to boot on a Knoppix CD and to different > Debian CDs, without success. I don't think a powerpc version of Knoppix has ever existed. > I hold down "C" on booting and then I press again "c" to boo

Re: PPC64 port status

2016-03-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:40:52AM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > Well that's odd. Anyway feel free to report the bug and assign it the > usertags to ppc64: > > https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/bts-usertags.cgi?tag=ppc64&user=debian-powerpc%40lists.debian.org Wow, 5 out of 11 bugs are to do with

Re: PPC64 port status

2016-03-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 04:26:59PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > Let me rephrase that in: "Wow somebody (user)tagged specifically with > ppc64 the nouveau bugs" ... :) > > This was not clear. But the offer to ppc64 machine(s) was made by the > ppc64el people: > > https://lists.debian.org/debi

Re: PPC64 port status

2016-03-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 04:41:40PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Lennart Sorensen > wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 04:26:59PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > >> Let me rephrase that in: "Wow somebody (user)tagged specifically w

Re: PPC64 port status

2016-03-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 12:06:36PM -0300, Breno Leitao wrote: > I am wondering if you cannot try to mimic this non-VMX CPU on QEMU using > -cpu. > > Running "$ qemu-system-ppc -cpu help" shows a lot of CPUs that are supported > in > QEMU. I am still not sure if we can exploit KVM if we use a di

Re: PPC64 port status

2016-03-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 07:13:49PM +0200, wbon...@theitmakers.com wrote: > Yes, that's what i mean. "-mno-altivec" and maybe some other > "-mno-something" flags, so it could run on any PPC64 cpu, even if it does > not have altivec/vmx, or if it does not have the optional opcodes of the > PPC64 stan

Re: PPC64 port status

2016-03-31 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 01:18:53AM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: > The altivec instructions and other optimizations speed-up significantly > certain kinds of programs on CPUs that can use them. It would be a shame to > loose the optimized versions by dropping back to the lowest common > denominator

Re: PPC64 port status

2016-03-31 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 07:59:50AM +0900, Hiroyuki Yamamoto wrote: > Hi, > > wbon...@theitmakers.com wrote: > > The current target is e5500, which means i rebuild packages with the > > following additionnal flags : -mcpu=e5500 -mno-altivec -mtune=e5500 > > > > Is there some more generic flags i c

Re: Adding more ppc64 buildds from the POWER cloud

2016-04-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 05:39:48PM -0300, Breno Leitao wrote: > Ok, since we will not even have VMX, I understand that we might not need a > POWER8, i.e, we can pursue initially with a POWER7. Does it make sense? > > Other than that, I will create a entry for you on one machine. But I am > wonderi

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

2024-09-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 03:26:30PM +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > Hi Adrian, > > On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 12:52:38 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > > > > 11.0.0 "Sid" Unofficial powerpc NETINST 20211006-11:28 > > > > That image is quite old. > > It must have served a purpose a whi

Re: Question about linux non-standard powerpc SPE FPU

2025-02-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 03:58:57PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Yes, math emulation should just work on 32-Bit PowerPC. > > There is no other option at this point unless one wants to invest time and > effort to build Debian for powerpcspe with LLVM/Clang. > > Also, as already mention

Re: Question about linux non-standard powerpc SPE FPU

2025-02-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 01:20:23PM +0100, Martina Hřebcová wrote: > Hi all, > > I have one question about kernel / debian operation. > > I have computer A1222+ with CPU P1022 ( two e500v2 cores ). It is NG Amiga > with AmigaOS4, but linux runs here nice too. > > P1022 CPU is 32-bit powerpc proce

Re: Espresso (Nintendo Wii U) SMP build support

2025-02-26 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 10:49:36AM +, Athanasios Anastasiou wrote: > Hi > > I have noticed the same about the Wii and agree that it would be great to > have Debian on it. But I can also see the point o > > If we are talking about taking advantage of SMP (?), the kernel is supposed > to do thi

Re: Espresso (Nintendo Wii U) SMP build support

2025-02-25 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 07:30:55PM +, Kurt Stine wrote: > I agree, there's no reason to penalize normal ppc users with the patch. It's > why I'm suggesting a separate port/repo with Espresso SMP support. Well someone would have to build and maintain it. It seems hard enough to even get that

Re: Espresso (Nintendo Wii U) SMP build support

2025-02-25 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 02:49:32AM +, Kurt Stine wrote: > Hello all, > > What would it take to have a debian build for the Espresso (Nintendo Wii U) > CPU? > > Currently, due to overall Espresso weirdness, both GCC and glibc need to be > patched for any applications to take advantage of all

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