Re: death keyboard on powerbook g4 after an update of xkb-data -> 1.3-1

2008-06-11 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-06-11 09:57:46 CEST]: > > Or do you mean that XkbModel macintosh would behave more like on > > MacOS and have the @ on alt-l? > > I understand your personal preference, but I suspect most people will > prefer the keymap to match what's physically printed o

Re: death keyboard on powerbook g4 after an update of xkb-data -> 1.3-1

2008-06-11 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 09:52 +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > * Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-06-10 18:54:31 CEST]: > > On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 17:09 +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > > If you wouldn't have left #debianppc so quickly again you would have > > > received responses along the line

Re: death keyboard on powerbook g4 after an update of xkb-data -> 1.3-1

2008-06-11 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-06-10 18:54:31 CEST]: > On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 17:09 +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > If you wouldn't have left #debianppc so quickly again you would have > > received responses along the line suggesting using XkbModel pc10x > > instead of macintosh. > > A

Re: death keyboard on powerbook g4 after an update of xkb-data -> 1.3-1

2008-06-11 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Sebastien G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-06-10 17:23:03 CEST]: > Next time I will stay a little bit longer in the #debianppc :) :) > At the end, I had a problem with my number lock on... Hmm, now that you mention it, it is on for me too after each reboot and I'm not sure where that comes from.

Re: death keyboard on powerbook g4 after an update of xkb-data -> 1.3-1

2008-06-10 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 17:09 +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > * Sebastien G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-06-10 04:32:29 CEST]: > > I'm on a PowerBook5,6 g4 @1667mhz running lenny yesterday I upgraded > > xkb-data 1.2~cvs.20080501.1-1 -> 1.3-1 since then, my internal keyboar

Re: death keyboard on powerbook g4 after an update of xkb-data -> 1.3-1

2008-06-10 Thread Sebastien G
yesterday I upgraded xkb-data 1.2~cvs.20080501.1-1 -> 1.3-1 since then, my internal keyboard is not regoncized by X. If you wouldn't have left #debianppc so quickly again you would have received responses along the line suggesting using XkbModel pc10x instead of macintosh. The very same a

Re: death keyboard on powerbook g4 after an update of xkb-data -> 1.3-1

2008-06-10 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Sebastien G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-06-10 04:32:29 CEST]: > I'm on a PowerBook5,6 g4 @1667mhz running lenny yesterday I upgraded > xkb-data 1.2~cvs.20080501.1-1 -> 1.3-1 since then, my internal keyboard > is not regoncized by X. If you wouldn't have left #de

Re: death keyboard on powerbook g4 after an update of xkb-data -> 1.3-1

2008-06-10 Thread Sebastien G
2:32 -0400, Sebastien G wrote: I'm on a PowerBook5,6 g4 @1667mhz running lenny yesterday I upgraded xkb-data 1.2~cvs.20080501.1-1 -> 1.3-1 since then, my internal keyboard is not regoncized by X. Does it still work if you downgrade to 1.2~cvs.20080501.1-1? I have to connect an external keyb

Re: death keyboard on powerbook g4 after an update of xkb-data -> 1.3-1

2008-06-10 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 22:32 -0400, Sebastien G wrote: > > I'm on a PowerBook5,6 g4 @1667mhz running lenny yesterday I upgraded > xkb-data 1.2~cvs.20080501.1-1 -> 1.3-1 since then, my internal keyboard > is not regoncized by X. Does it still work if you downgrade to 1.2~cv

death keyboard on powerbook g4 after an update of xkb-data -> 1.3-1

2008-06-09 Thread Sebastien G
hi folks, I'm on a PowerBook5,6 g4 @1667mhz running lenny yesterday I upgraded xkb-data 1.2~cvs.20080501.1-1 -> 1.3-1 since then, my internal keyboard is not regoncized by X. I have to connect an external keyboard to be able to use the computer :( I just noticed that when I press th

Re: xkb-data: Help needed for Macintosh keyboards

2006-10-09 Thread Denis Barbier
it escapes me. > > There is indeed a bug, I just filed > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8571 > You can apply the patch found in this bugreport (take care that it has to > be reverted!) Please test http://people.debian.org/~barbier/tmp/xkb-data_0.9-1_all.deb Both

Re: xkb-data: Help needed for Macintosh keyboards

2006-10-09 Thread Denis Barbier
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 01:22:03PM +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > Well, it works more or less. It does not work as I'd like > on my old Powerbook since Apple changed the order of the > keys right of the spacebar a few years ago: > > - now the keys are: spacebar, Command(Apple), Enter > - on the

Re: Re xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-09 Thread Denis Barbier
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 08:56:03AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 09:04:15PM +0200, Denis Barbier a écrit : > > On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 12:18:10AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > [...] > > > Actually, I just realised that windows keyboards use three different > > > keys wit

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-09 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Wolfang, On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 01:01:25AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 12:31:49AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > > About your other changes, if you want to modify pc105 German layout, > > > please discuss with other German people, not on this list only. > > >

Re: xkb-data: Help needed for Macintosh keyboards

2006-10-09 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 12:17:09AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 01:26:09PM +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > > Another point, the es layout for Macintosh is actually > > latin american. Apple makes both es and latin american > > and they are very different: simply look at th

Re: Re xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-08 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 09:04:15PM +0200, Denis Barbier a écrit : > On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 12:18:10AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > [...] > > Actually, I just realised that windows keyboards use three different > > keys with similar functions but different keycodes. > > Charles, there is an ongo

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-08 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 12:48:31AM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: > Hello Denis, > > Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh, and you could also add Unicode quote characters U201E/U201C > > (doublelowquotemark, leftdoublequotemark) to the German layout, > > for instance on v/b keys which use to

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-07 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hello Denis, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, and you could also add Unicode quote characters U201E/U201C > (doublelowquotemark, leftdoublequotemark) to the German layout, > for instance on v/b keys which use to have quotation marks. Or put it on ^ where it is on OS X 10.4: ^ ° „ “

Re: Re xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-05 Thread Denis Barbier
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 12:18:10AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: [...] > Actually, I just realised that windows keyboards use three different > keys with similar functions but different keycodes. Charles, there is an ongoing discussion about the Japanese layout at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/sho

Re: Re xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-05 Thread Charles Plessy
es. As what is written in japanese on the mac keys is really transliterated as EIGO and KANA, I propose to add the two following lines to /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree86 = 210; = 209; They do not seem to conflict with anything else. Then, there are extra keys at the end of the rows E, D

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-04 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
e no problem with changing > them again, the result cannot be worse than was in sarge ;) IINM, the Mac layouts are those in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/macintosh_vndr/ and these are non-PC105 (?), so they're not of much use for me ... I could try to write a new one for that dir above, with

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-04 Thread Denis Barbier
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 12:31:49AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > About your other changes, if you want to modify pc105 German layout, > > please discuss with other German people, not on this list only. > > They may vote as they like ... All I hope is that they at least do > vote .. :) I sh

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-04 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Wed, Oct 04 2006, at 23:38 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 08:59:52PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > It was difficult to map Alt_R to that key: The only way I found to do > > that was to add also Meta_R ... Denis: What did I miss as to this last > > point? > > -opti

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-04 Thread Denis Barbier
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 10:36:37PM +0200, Mich Lanners wrote: > The problem was I has XFree 6.9.0 installed, which looks for XKB files > in /etc/X11/xkb, not /usr/share/X11/xkb. Fixed by upgrading to 7.0 and > manually removing xlibs from 6.9.0, which provides, contrary to it's &g

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-04 Thread Denis Barbier
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 08:59:52PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > It was difficult to map Alt_R to that key: The only way I found to do > that was to add also Meta_R ... Denis: What did I miss as to this last > point? -option lv3:enter_switch About your other changes, if you want to modify

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-04 Thread Mich Lanners
xkbmap -print xkb_keymap { xkb_keycodes { include "macintosh+aliases(qwerty)" }; xkb_types { include "complete+numpad(mac)" }; xkb_compat{ include "complete" }; xkb_symbols { include "pc(pc105)+macintosh_vndr/ch(fr)+in

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-04 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
anged official xkb-data 0.8-16 when running the 'setxkbmap' one liner below. The patch should work on xkb-data 0.8-16. On Fri, Sep 29 2006, at 16:54 +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > Hello, > On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 10:46:49PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > > Which probl

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-03 Thread Denis Barbier
Exiting > Abandoning symbols file "(null)" > Error:success in unknown > Couldn't write keyboard description to :0 > > > Now, my analysis may be completely off as I am by no means an XKB expert > (and seein

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-03 Thread Mich Lanners
Hi Denis, Sorry to come in late on this... On 23 Sep, this message from Denis Barbier echoed through cyberspace: > Hi, > > I just uploaded xkb-data 0.8-13 into unstable, it > is available at http://people.debian.org/~barbier/tmp/ > and will reach mirrors in almost a day. I i

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-01 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
use the Apple key as AltGr. Thanks, this works! So with current xkb, both the Mac-layout people and the PC layout people (using a german keyboard) have a working mapping. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signe

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-01 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
a *console* layout; only a subset > of keymaps from console-data are included because of space constraints. > There is code in xserver-xorg.config to transform the selected console > keymap into XKB settings. > How are these settings selected? Some users performed tests for their >

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-10-01 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hello Chris, Chris Burdess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jörg Sommer wrote: >> If I sit in front of a keyboard with an Apple logo, I expect an Apple >> keyboard. If I see the @ sign engraved on the L key, I expect I get it >> when I press Modifier+L. > > That's laudable, and echoes my own expectati

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-30 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hi Helge, Helge Kreutzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:15:43AM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: >> Helge Kreutzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > 2. The AltGr-Bracket sequence is still "wrong", i.e. I would like the >> >PC style version, >> >> Then configure a PC style k

Re: Euro sign [was: Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable]

2006-09-30 Thread Mich Lanners
Hello, On 29 Sep, this message from Helge Kreutzmann echoed through cyberspace: > Hello Wolfgang, > On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:09:04PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: >> On X (that is KDE/KDM), according to the KDE control-center, >> >> General:Arial 9 (numbers here and following m

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Denis Barbier
There is code in xserver-xorg.config to transform the selected console keymap into XKB settings. How are these settings selected? Some users performed tests for their hardware, gave their selected console keymap and their desired XKB settings, so that xserver-xorg.config can be updated. We are no

Re: Euro sign [was: Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable]

2006-09-29 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Hi Helge On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 08:36:26PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > Hello Wolfgang, > On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:09:04PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: [ ... ] > First I'd like to know if you can see it in an xterm. I can see the Euro sign in an xterm command prompt. But not i

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Wolfgang, On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 06:10:08PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > Interesting: > Here, on a PowerBook5,8, it's vice versa: > Without 'badmap', <> and ^° are swapped, with badmap they are where > the keys engravement shows they should be. I think this is the "random" element Deni

Re: Euro sign [was: Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable]

2006-09-29 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Wolfgang, On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:09:04PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > I removed the "In-Reply-To:" header, to get a new thread ... I hope you > don't mind ... :) No, that is perfectly fine, in fact, I've should it done as well. Could you also remove the CC: to my address please as w

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Hi Helge On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:50:48PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > Hello, > On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:43:04PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:02:33PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 01:53:13AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: >

Re: Euro sign [was: Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable]

2006-09-29 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:09:04PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > On X (that is KDE/KDM), according to the KDE control-center, > > General: Arial 9 (numbers here and following mean "size") ^^^ should say:

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello, On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:43:04PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:02:33PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 01:53:13AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > > This helps: > > > setxkbmap -option -rules xorg -model pc105 -layout de -option

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:02:33PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > Hello, > On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 01:53:13AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > This helps: > > setxkbmap -option -rules xorg -model pc105 -layout de -option apple:badmap > > -option lv3:lwin_switch -print | xkbcomp - :0 > > > >

Euro sign [was: Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable]

2006-09-29 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Hi Helge I removed the "In-Reply-To:" header, to get a new thread ... I hope you don't mind ... :) On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 03:57:55PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > Hello, > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 12:20:23AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > $ setxkbmap -option -option apple:badmap -rules x

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello, On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:38:44AM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > I don't really know if it's a xkb or a kernel problem, but here the > numeric keypad don't really work. I guess on osx Fn+u gives a 4, but it > doesn't here. If i numlock using Fn+F6, the

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello, On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 01:53:13AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > This helps: > setxkbmap -option -rules xorg -model pc105 -layout de -option apple:badmap > -option lv3:lwin_switch -print | xkbcomp - :0 > > which maps keycode 115, the left Apple key, to ISO_Level3_Shift: > > And I hav

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello, On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 10:46:49PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > Which problems do you have, when you load the pc105 layout? Aren't it work? > > Exactly. Currently I've loaded xkb-data 0.8-14, and with that version > as with the previous one I basica

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello, On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 04:07:05PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > Strange, in vim I get a `, while on the console I now get a , Scratch that: it's working in -13 should fine, I was accidentially typing Apple-'. Greetings, Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys.

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Olaf, On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:47:27PM +0200, Olaf Hering wrote: > macintosh means and does MacOS mapping. I made it that way back in 2000. > Dont change it. > If you want a PC map, use a PC map. Well, first thanks for creating a keyboard map. But judging by my experience and also what I'

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Jörg, On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 09:25:44AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > You're missing the point. The macintosh layouts should match what's > physically engraved on the keys of an Apple keyboard as much as > possible. Same for the pc layouts vs. PC keyboards. You should > appreciate the possib

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Wolfang, On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:13:51PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > "Problem" so far: I'm happy with what I have with the latest xkb-data > here .. :) Mee too. The brackets are about the only thing left, and I've hadn't have a chance to try Denis la

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Jörg, On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:15:43AM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: > Helge Kreutzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So the following still needs to be done for a german ibook keyboard: > > > > 1. When pressing the key between ß? and backspace, I still get > >nothing, while I expect ' as

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Jörg, On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:19:58AM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: > Wolfgang Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 03:52:11PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > > > >> 1. When pressing the key between ß? and backspace, I still get > >>nothing, while I expect ' as

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello, On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 04:05:59PM +0200, Bin Zhang wrote: > >OT: Do you see a Euro-sign in X/on the console for Apple-E? And if so, > >what kind of font do you use? > > It seems to me that you need use uft-8. I think I already use UTF-8. On the console I issued unicode_start. LANG is set

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
on several positions, e.g. `, ~, |, «, ß, > > }. As of now, I don't see this as a problem, but maybe a general > > consensus should be found regarding the AltGr-mapping. > > This is indeed usually not a problem. > > Denis > Index: xkb-data/symbols/macintos

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Bin Zhang
On 9/29/06, Helge Kreutzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 12:20:23AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > $ setxkbmap -option -option apple:badmap -rules xorg -model powerbook -layout de -variant nodeadkeys -print | xkbcomp - :0 > > does solve this issue Thanks .

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello, On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 12:20:23AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > $ setxkbmap -option -option apple:badmap -rules xorg -model powerbook > -layout de -variant nodeadkeys -print | xkbcomp - :0 > > does solve this issue Thanks .. :) OT: Do you see a Euro-sign in X/on the console fo

Re: Re: Please test xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 in experimental

2006-09-29 Thread Cédric Boutillier
the later discussion On 19 Sep, this message from Jörg Sommer echoed through cyberspace: > Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 07:11:20PM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: >>> Why is Fn+6 num_lock? >> >> No idea, please run >>

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-29 Thread Eddy Petrișor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Burdess wrote: > Jörg Sommer wrote: >> If I sit in front of a keyboard with an Apple logo, I expect an Apple >> keyboard. If I see the @ sign engraved on the L key, I expect I get it >> when I press Modifier+L. > > That's laudable, and echoes

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-28 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Hi Denis On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 11:41:23PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 10:46:49PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: [ .. ] > > On a PowerBook5,8: > > > > setxkbmap -option -rules xorg -model pc105 -layout de -variant nodeadkeys > > -option apple:badmap -print | x

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-28 Thread Chris Burdess
Jörg Sommer wrote: If I sit in front of a keyboard with an Apple logo, I expect an Apple keyboard. If I see the @ sign engraved on the L key, I expect I get it when I press Modifier+L. That's laudable, and echoes my own expectations with respect to the Alt+click (right click) when using X on

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-28 Thread Denis Barbier
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 10:46:49PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: [...] > > Which problems do you have, when you load the pc105 layout? Aren't it work? > > Exactly. Currently I've loaded xkb-data 0.8-14, and with that version > as with the previous one I basica

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-28 Thread Denis Barbier
ed from scratch, it has not been copied from Windows. Please note also that Ben Müller submitted upstream a slightly different layout, which is supposed to be closer to Mac OS X: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6671 This is the "mac" variant in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/de. S

Re: Re xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-28 Thread Denis Barbier
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 09:36:07PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Bonjour Denis, > > I have downloaded xkb-data 0.8-14 and played with commands such as: > > setxkbmap -rules "xorg" -model "macintosh" -layout "jp,ca" -variant ",multi" &g

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-28 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
t's a Apple keyboard. Don't use it, if you don't like it. > > > > With logics like this I could say: This is Linux. Go get OSX if you > > want an Apple keyboard. > > No. Linux and OS X are software. A keyboard is hardware. It's the same > thing with mic

Re: Please test xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 in experimental

2006-09-28 Thread Mich Lanners
No idea, please run >> xkbcomp :0 >> and send the generated file server-0.xkb. > > I send it per PM. Maybe someone else knows what key it should be. It > is a rectangle with a big X above. > > +-\-/-+ > | X | > +-/-\-+ How about Delete (i.e. the other ch

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-28 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hi Wolfgang, Wolfgang Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:15:43AM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: >> >i.e. (starting at AltGR-7) {[]}\ while I get (starting at AltGr-5) >> >[]|{}}\. This behaviour should be switchable. Also I still wonder >> >why "}" is on AltGr-

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-28 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Hi All On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 09:25:44AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 21:13 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:15:43AM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: > > > > > > >i.e. (starting at AltGR-7) {[]}\ while I get (starting at AltGr-5) > > > >[]|{}

Re xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Bonjour Denis, I have downloaded xkb-data 0.8-14 and played with commands such as: setxkbmap -rules "xorg" -model "macintosh" -layout "jp,ca" -variant ",multi" -option compose:rwin -option grp:lwin_toggle I am using an iMac with a Apple A1048 keyboard.

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-28 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 21:13 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:15:43AM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: > > > > >i.e. (starting at AltGR-7) {[]}\ while I get (starting at AltGr-5) > > >[]|{}}\. This behaviour should be switchable. Also I still wonder > > >why "}" is

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-27 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:13:51PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > "Problem" so far: I'm happy with what I have with the latest xkb-data > here .. :) > > I always get either a wonderful, fully fledged PC style keyboard, but > I never managed to get a, for me r

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-27 Thread Bin Zhang
On 9/27/06, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 04:00:52PM +0200, Bin Zhang wrote: > Hi, > > On 9/23/06, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I just uploaded xkb-data 0.8-13 into unstable, >

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-27 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:13:51PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > "Problem" so far: I'm happy with what I have with the latest xkb-data > here .. :) That is, xkb-data_0.8-13_all.deb, with the patch (mac-de.diff) applied from Colin: http://lists.debian.org/debian-pow

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-27 Thread Denis Barbier
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 04:00:52PM +0200, Bin Zhang wrote: > Hi, > > On 9/23/06, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I just uploaded xkb-data 0.8-13 into unstable, > > I see some warnings when running startx: > > Th

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-27 Thread Olaf Hering
On Wed, Sep 27, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > Colin: Is there anything already decided in how the future keyboard > layouts on xkb-data, for Apple machines, will look like: PC-style, or > Apple style, or options for both of them? macintosh means and does MacOS mapping. I made it that wa

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-27 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
cket sequence is still "wrong", i.e. I would like the > >PC style version, > > Then configure a PC style keyboard. Use pc105 instead of macintosh. "Problem" so far: I'm happy with what I have with the latest xkb-data here .. :) I always get either a wond

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-27 Thread Bin Zhang
Hi, On 9/23/06, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I just uploaded xkb-data 0.8-13 into unstable, I see some warnings when running startx: The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Warning: Multiple names for keycode 182

Re: Please test xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 in experimental

2006-09-26 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hello Wolfgang, Wolfgang Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 04:03:54PM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: >> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 08:57:14PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: >> >> I went at an Apple Center today, and indeed 6 has the symb

Re: Please test xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 in experimental

2006-09-26 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 04:03:54PM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: > Hello Sven, > > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 08:57:14PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:45:58PM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: > >> > Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: Please test xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 in experimental

2006-09-25 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hello Sven, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 08:57:14PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:45:58PM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: >> > Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 19:11 +, Jörg Sommer wrote: >> > >>

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-25 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hallo Wolfgang, Wolfgang Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 03:52:11PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > >> 1. When pressing the key between ß? and backspace, I still get >>nothing, while I expect ' as printed on the key. With the shift >>modifier it works. This i

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-25 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hallo Helge, Helge Kreutzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So the following still needs to be done for a german ibook keyboard: > > 1. When pressing the key between ß? and backspace, I still get >nothing, while I expect ' as printed on the key. With the shift >modifier it works. This is ke

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-25 Thread Djoume SALVETTI
Le lun 25 sep 2006 11:38:44 GMT Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > I don't really know if it's a xkb or a kernel problem, but here the > numeric keypad don't really work. I guess on osx Fn+u gives a 4, but it > doesn't here. If i numlock using Fn+F

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-25 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 15:21 +0200, Djoume SALVETTI wrote: > Le lun 25 sep 2006 11:38:44 GMT Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit > : > > I don't really know if it's a xkb or a kernel problem, but here the > > numeric keypad don't really work

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-25 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 11:38 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On Sat, 2006-09-23 at 02:19 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > > Please, test it, send feedback if something does not > > work or can be improved, write documentation for other > > powerpc users that could be incl

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-25 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
uot; + "Alt_L" + "dead_acute", then "a" gives "à". > > > But: I didn't see "dead_acute" on any char if I add "variant nodeadkeys": > > $ setxkbmap -option -option apple:badmap -rules xorg -model powerbook > -layout de -varian

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-25 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
"Shift_L" + "Alt_L" + "dead_acute", then "a" gives "à". But: I didn't see "dead_acute" on any char if I add "variant nodeadkeys": $ setxkbmap -option -option apple:badmap -rules xorg -model powerbook -layout de -variant no

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-25 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Sat, 2006-09-23 at 02:19 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > Please, test it, send feedback if something does not > work or can be improved, write documentation for other > powerpc users that could be included in xkb-data, etc. > Thanks for your help. I don't really know if it&#x

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-24 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 11:19:34PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 10:54:22PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > [...] > > setxkbmap -option -rules xorg -model powerbook -layout de -variant > > nodeadkeys -print | xkbcomp - :0 > > > > > > This one is fine: The 2nd is gone

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-24 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 03:52:11PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > 1. When pressing the key between ß? and backspace, I still get >nothing, while I expect ' as printed on the key. With the shift >modifier it works. This is keycode 21. > > 2. The AltGr-Bracket sequence is still "wrong", i

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-24 Thread Denis Barbier
s? > Also several characters are on several positions, e.g. `, ~, |, «, ß, > }. As of now, I don't see this as a problem, but maybe a general > consensus should be found regarding the AltGr-mapping. This is indeed usually not a problem. Denis Index: xkb-data/symbols/macintosh_vndr

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-24 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 10:54:22PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: [...] > setxkbmap -option -rules xorg -model powerbook -layout de -variant nodeadkeys > -print | xkbcomp - :0 > > > This one is fine: The 2nd is gone now and becomes a > ISO_Level3_Shift (xev says that), left of the arrow 'LEFT

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-24 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 04:42:27PM +0200, Bin Zhang wrote: > Hi, > > On 9/23/06, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I just uploaded xkb-data 0.8-13 into unstable, it > >is available at http://people.debian.org/~barbier/tmp/ > > T

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-24 Thread Djoume SALVETTI
Le dim 24 sep 2006 18:44:22 GMT Nicolas François <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > > Is there anybody with a french apple keyboard who know how to delete the > > character after the cursor? > > Does fn + backspace works? Yes, thanks, I'll use that. -- Djoume SALVETTI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-24 Thread Nicolas François
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 03:30:04PM +0200, Djoume SALVETTI wrote: > > Is there anybody with a french apple keyboard who know how to delete the > character after the cursor? Does fn + backspace works? -- Nekral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-24 Thread Djoume SALVETTI
Le sam 23 sep 2006 16:42:27 GMT Bin Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > >I just uploaded xkb-data 0.8-13 into unstable, it > >is available at http://people.debian.org/~barbier/tmp/ > > Thanks. It works fine on my ibook G4 1.2Ghz 12" french keyboard. Thanks for y

Re: xkb-data: Help needed for Macintosh keyboards

2006-09-23 Thread Denis Barbier
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 01:26:09PM +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > Another point, the es layout for Macintosh is actually > latin american. Apple makes both es and latin american > and they are very different: simply look at the differences > between latam and es in the symbols directory. There i

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-23 Thread Bin Zhang
Hi, On 9/23/06, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I just uploaded xkb-data 0.8-13 into unstable, it is available at http://people.debian.org/~barbier/tmp/ Thanks. It works fine on my ibook G4 1.2Ghz 12" french keyboard. Some remarks about french ibook keyboard: 1

Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-23 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello, On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 02:19:42AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > I just uploaded xkb-data 0.8-13 into unstable, it > is available at http://people.debian.org/~barbier/tmp/ > and will reach mirrors in almost a day. I took it from your directory, as even ftp.debian.org does not hav

xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable

2006-09-22 Thread Denis Barbier
Hi, I just uploaded xkb-data 0.8-13 into unstable, it is available at http://people.debian.org/~barbier/tmp/ and will reach mirrors in almost a day. This version is very similar to 0.8-12exp4, I believe that it is pretty solid, but needs more polishing. We can discuss to change default settings

Re: Please test xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 in experimental

2006-09-22 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hello Denis, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:45:58PM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: >> Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 19:11 +, Jörg Sommer wrote: >> >> Why is Fn+6 num_lock? >> > >> > On my system, (powerbook 5,6), Fn+F6

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