Re: mplayer packages

2003-09-12 Thread Guido Guenther
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 04:38:57PM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/mplayer/ The /etc/apt/sources.list line for this is: deb http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/ Cheers, -- Guido pgph6FiGVQUQI.pgp Description:

Re: mplayer packages

2003-09-12 Thread Rogério Brito
On Sep 12 2003, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Guido Guenther wrote: > > So, are there G3s with altivec? If so could you list which ones? > > Why CPUs with Altivec as a minimum support level? Indeed, many people are still using G3s or even older processors (e.g., older PowerMacs

Re: kernel-creator package (was: Re: mplayer packages)

2003-09-12 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On 12 Sep 2003, Jens Schmalzing wrote: > Martin-Éric Racine writes: > > > G3 and G4 kernels could be optimized with specific hardware in mind, > > e.g. G3 for iBook and iMac CRT, G4 for Cube and everything after, > > etc. > > Your idea has some validity since the current situation is less than i

Re: mplayer packages

2003-09-12 Thread Brad Boyer
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 11:01:14AM +0300, Martin-?ric Racine wrote: > IMHO, there should be 3 packages (applies to the kernel too): > > 1) Pre-G3 (PPC601, etc.) > 2) G3 > 3) G4 with Altivec and the whole shebang As I understand the chips in question, the 740/750 actually has more in common with

Re: mplayer packages

2003-09-12 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Martin-Éric Racine writes: > IMHO, there should be 3 packages (applies to the kernel too): > > 1) Pre-G3 (PPC601, etc.) > 2) G3 > 3) G4 with Altivec and the whole shebang Does the preformance gain from optimizing for G3 warrant the extra package? > G3 and G4 kernels could be optimized wit

Re: mplayer packages

2003-09-12 Thread Guido Guenther
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 11:01:14AM +0300, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > 1) Pre-G3 (PPC601, etc.) This is what -powerpc does. > 2) G3 Could you check if using -march=740 -mtune=740 for mplayer gives any measurable performance benefit over the "generic" -m{arch,tune}=powerpc on a G3? Is there anything

Re: mplayer packages

2003-09-12 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Martin-Éric Racine writes: > Why CPUs with Altivec as a minimum support level? There is a -powerpc package *and* and -altivec package. AFAICS only the latter is optimized. Regards, Jens. -- J'qbpbe, le m'en fquz pe j'qbpbe! Le veux aimeb et mqubib panz je pézqbpbe je djuz tqtaj!

Re: mplayer packages

2003-09-12 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On 12 Sep 2003, Jens Schmalzing wrote: > Martin-Éric Racine writes: > > > Why CPUs with Altivec as a minimum support level? > > There is a -powerpc package *and* and -altivec package. AFAICS only > the latter is optimized. IMHO, there should be 3 packages (applies to the kernel too): 1) Pre-G

Re: mplayer packages

2003-09-12 Thread Guido Guenther
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 10:46:47AM +0300, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > Why CPUs with Altivec as a minimum support level? Because there's a mplayer-powerpc package for CPUs without altivec. -- Guido pgp4088qxlrXF.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: mplayer packages

2003-09-12 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 01:15:41AM +0300, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > > Any particular reason to have G4 as minimum support level? Why not G3? > I was under the impression that the G3 doesn't have altivec. > Simdtech.org/altivec says: > > $ Motorola ha

Re: mplayer packages

2003-09-11 Thread Guido Guenther
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 01:15:41AM +0300, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > Any particular reason to have G4 as minimum support level? Why not G3? I was under the impression that the G3 doesn't have altivec. Simdtech.org/altivec says: $ Motorola has shipped two microprocessor generations with AltiVec in

Re: mplayer packages

2003-09-11 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 11:17:20PM +0200, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: > > I used to use: -mcpu=7450 -mtune=7450 -maltivec -mabi=altivec but as > > already noted, gcc-3.3 segfaults on the libavcodec subdir > It seems that Apple's first G4s had 7400 CPUs so

Re: mplayer packages

2003-09-11 Thread Guido Guenther
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 11:17:20PM +0200, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: > I used to use: -mcpu=7450 -mtune=7450 -maltivec -mabi=altivec but as > already noted, gcc-3.3 segfaults on the libavcodec subdir It seems that Apple's first G4s had 7400 CPUs so I'll use that for the next -g4 build. I'll compare p

Re: mplayer packages

2003-09-11 Thread Soeren Sonnenburg
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 22:14, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 08:04:01PM +0200, Paul van Tilburg wrote: > > Thanks! I had trouble building mplayer 1.0pre1 with gcc-3.3 (got gcc > > internal > > error). You had no trouble with the AltiVec part of the build > > process? > I che ated,

Re: mplayer packages

2003-09-11 Thread Guido Guenther
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 08:04:01PM +0200, Paul van Tilburg wrote: > Thanks! I had trouble building mplayer 1.0pre1 with gcc-3.3 (got gcc internal > error). You had no trouble with the AltiVec part of the build > process? I cheated, I hacked the Makefile of the libavcodec/ subdir to use a cvs gcc an

Re: mplayer packages

2003-09-11 Thread Paul van Tilburg
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 04:38:57PM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > I've dumped mplayer packages based on Christian Marillat's excellent > packages to: > http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/mplayer/ Thanks! I had trouble building mplayer 1.0pre1 with gcc-3.

mplayer packages

2003-09-11 Thread Guido Guenther
Hi, I've dumped mplayer packages based on Christian Marillat's excellent packages to: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/mplayer/ Feedback welcome, especially on the naming. Is mplayer-{powerpc,altivec} o.k. or would it be better to call them -{ppc,g4}? Regards,