Re: X.org segfault on iMac G3

2025-01-04 Thread Stan Johnson
Hi Manuel, On 1/3/25 4:52 PM, Manuel Molina Cuberos wrote: > Hi! > > After being able to install Debian 12 to my iMac G3, I was hoping to use > Xfce. > > However, although Lightdm and all packages were installed correctly, > when X starts, I get this error: > &g

X.org segfault on iMac G3

2025-01-03 Thread Manuel Molina Cuberos
Hi! After being able to install Debian 12 to my iMac G3, I was hoping to use Xfce. However, although Lightdm and all packages were installed correctly, when X starts, I get this error: [  1247.454] (WW) R128(0): Failed to read PCI ROM! [  1247.454] (WW) R128(0): Video BIOS not found

Re: Debian 12 installation on iMac G3

2024-10-17 Thread Manuel Molina Cuberos
how to be successfull the same way with the iMac G3 ? Regards, El vie, 11 oct 2024 a las 15:17, Manuel Molina Cuberos () escribió: > Hi Ed! > > Thanks for the hint. > I toasted another CD with the image you suggested. > Launched the installation and everything was working up to the

Re: Debian 12 installation on iMac G3

2024-10-11 Thread Manuel Molina Cuberos
-powerpc #1 Debian 6.3.7-1 ... ... (call trace comes here) Is it something about this particular iMac model? What can I do? Regards, El vie, 11 oct 2024 a las 17:27, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz (< glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de>) escribió: > Hello Manuel, > > On Fri, 2024-10-11 at 15:1

Re: Debian 12 installation on iMac G3

2024-10-11 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Manuel, On Fri, 2024-10-11 at 15:17 +0200, Manuel Molina Cuberos wrote: > Thanks for the hint. > I toasted another CD with the image you suggested. > Launched the installation and everything was working up to the mirror > selection stage. > I added one mirror (deb.debian.org) but from the e

Re: Debian 12 installation on iMac G3

2024-10-11 Thread Manuel Molina Cuberos
Hi Manuel > > On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 at 23:50, Manuel Molina Cuberos > wrote: > > > > Hi all! > > > > I have several PowerPC based computers. One of them is an iMac G3/500 DV > SE (powermac2,2) with 1 GB RAM and 30 GB hard drive. > > > > I've had

Re: Debian 12 installation on iMac G3

2024-10-10 Thread Ed Robbins
Hi Manuel On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 at 23:50, Manuel Molina Cuberos wrote: > > Hi all! > > I have several PowerPC based computers. One of them is an iMac G3/500 DV SE > (powermac2,2) with 1 GB RAM and 30 GB hard drive. > > I've had it with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS but it's ou

Debian 12 installation on iMac G3

2024-10-10 Thread Manuel Molina Cuberos
Hi all! I have several PowerPC based computers. One of them is an iMac G3/500 DV SE (powermac2,2) with 1 GB RAM and 30 GB hard drive. I've had it with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS but it's out of support already. It worked fine from boot perspective, and it was using yaboot. I wanted to install

Re: How to upgrade Debian 8 stable to the unofficial port (iMac G5)

2024-02-19 Thread tuxayo
On 24-02-13 09:28, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On Tue, 2024-02-13 at 08:20 +0100, tuxayo wrote: I installed the last offcial Debian 8 iso. Picking "install" and not "install32" IIUC I have a ppc64 install. No, you still have a 32-bit PowerPC, i.e. powerpc installation. It's just that your

Re: How to upgrade Debian 8 stable to the unofficial port (iMac G5)

2024-02-13 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello, On Tue, 2024-02-13 at 08:20 +0100, tuxayo wrote: > I installed the last offcial Debian 8 iso. Picking "install" and not > "install32" IIUC I have a ppc64 install. No, you still have a 32-bit PowerPC, i.e. powerpc installation. It's just that your kernel is 64 bits instead of 32 bits. > p

How to upgrade Debian 8 stable to the unofficial port (iMac G5)

2024-02-12 Thread tuxayo
Hi :) I installed the last offcial Debian 8 iso. Picking "install" and not "install32" IIUC I have a ppc64 install. Or maybe not, I don't see a ppc64 package here: http://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/firefox-esr/ ppc64 seems the most relevant choice for a G5 to gain some performance

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-02-07 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Claudia, On Wed, 2024-02-07 at 20:19 +0100, Claudia Neumann wrote: > Now firmware R300_cp.bin, b43 and isight.fw is missing. Use this sources.list [1] and then install "firmware-amd-graphics". For the iSight camera, you can just download this file [2] and place it below /lib/firmware. For

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-02-07 Thread Federico Vaga
On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 08:19:19PM +0100, Claudia Neumann wrote: Hi all, in the meantime I succeeded in installing Debian 12.0.0 on iMac G5 with radeon graphic card. I used ISO-Image 2023-06-18, installed default with tasksel KDE plasma, LXDE and LXQT. I had to insert "radeon.agpm

Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-02-07 Thread Claudia Neumann
Hi all, in the meantime I succeeded in installing Debian 12.0.0 on iMac G5 with radeon graphic card. I used ISO-Image 2023-06-18, installed default with tasksel KDE plasma, LXDE and LXQT. I had to insert "radeon.agpmode=1 radeon.modeset=1 video=offb.off nomodeset" in grub to get gr

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-02-05 Thread Federico Vaga
. The Open Firmware would not allow it. I had to burn the CD or DVD. Actually yes, you can boot from USB on the iMac G5. Here it is the procedure: 0. prepare a USB key with the netinstall image using ``dd`` 1. hold ``Command + Option + O + F`` while booting until you get the OpenFirmware command line 2

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-02-05 Thread Claudia Neumann
Hi all, now I could install debian-12.0.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso from 2023-05-28. But grub would not install. I can boot into grub. The partition is (ieee1275/hd,apple3) and I can find the kernel in /boot: config-6.2.0-9-powerpc64 vmlinux-6.1.0-9-powerpc64 initrd.img.old vmlinux.old vmlinux System

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-02-04 Thread Claudia Neumann
Mouse button during boot worked like a charm. Thanx Claudia Am Sonntag, 4. Februar 2024, 22:12:17 CET schrieb DistroHopper39B Business: > Hold down the mouse button during boot. If that doesn't work, boot to Open > Firmware (Command-Option-O-F) and type “eject cd” > > On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 4:

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-02-04 Thread DistroHopper39B Business
Hold down the mouse button during boot. If that doesn't work, boot to Open Firmware (Command-Option-O-F) and type “eject cd” On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 4:10 PM Claudia Neumann wrote: > Yes, I did boot from DVD. But how can I get the DVD, that will not boot, > out of the drive? > > CU > > Claudia > >

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-02-04 Thread Claudia Neumann
Yes, I did boot from DVD. But how can I get the DVD, that will not boot, out of the drive? CU Claudia Am Sonntag, 4. Februar 2024, 21:57:30 CET schrieb Jeffrey Walton: > On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 3:33 PM Claudia Neumann > > wrote: > > Hi John, hi Frederico, > > > > I tried debian-12.0.0-ppc64-

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-02-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 3:33 PM Claudia Neumann wrote: > > Hi John, hi Frederico, > > I tried debian-12.0.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso from 31.1.2024. > > The Mac G5 stops with > > smp_core99_probe > > smp_core99_bringup_done > > I tried with > > radeon.modeset=1 video=offb:off nomodeset > > radeon.agpmod

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-02-04 Thread Claudia Neumann
Hi John, hi Frederico, I tried debian-12.0.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso from 31.1.2024. The Mac G5 stops with smp_core99_probe smp_core99_bringup_done I tried with radeon.modeset=1 video=offb:off nomodeset radeon.agpmode=-1 radeon.modeset=1 video=offb:off nomodeset in grub. No better. Now I have the p

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-01-23 Thread Claudia Neumann
Great! Thanx Claudia Am Dienstag, 23. Januar 2024, 18:42:03 CET schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: > Hello Claudia, > > On Tue, 2024-01-23 at 17:59 +0100, Claudia Neumann wrote: > > I choose > > debian-11.0.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso > > from 14.5.2023. > > > > I can start the installation, partition

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-01-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Claudia, On Tue, 2024-01-23 at 17:59 +0100, Claudia Neumann wrote: > I choose > debian-11.0.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso > from 14.5.2023. > > I can start the installation, partitioning has succeeded. > it installs busybox but hangs with: > package zstd is not available. There is a reference from

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-01-23 Thread Claudia Neumann
choose another iso? Regards Claudia Am Dienstag, 23. Januar 2024, 15:54:22 CET schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: > Hi Claudia, > > On Tue, 2024-01-23 at 15:39 +0100, Claudia Neumann wrote: > > Hi all, hi Adrian, > > > > downloaded the image and burnt on DVD. Now t

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-01-23 Thread Federico Vaga
adeon.modeset=1 video=offb:off nomodeset" or "radeon.agpmode=-1 radeon.modeset=1 video=offb:off nomodeset" In my particular case, my iMac has an Nvidia card, therefore I tried another set of parameters. For me, it did not help. But you are using a different card with a different driv

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-01-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Claudia, On Tue, 2024-01-23 at 15:39 +0100, Claudia Neumann wrote: > Hi all, hi Adrian, > > downloaded the image and burnt on DVD. Now the iMac starts from DVD but hangs > with: > smp_core99_probe > smp_core99_bringup_done > the ventilator is up high but nothing else hap

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-01-23 Thread Claudia Neumann
all Debian 12 on the same iMac. > > In my case, I'm booting the netinst image from USB but the kernel > crashes > somewhere. The screen is not refreshed after a few kernel messages, so I > was > not able to debug any further. > > On the web I've found this project

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-01-23 Thread Federico Vaga
Hi Claudia and all, this is a very interesting coincidence. I've started trying a couple of days a go to install Debian 12 on the same iMac. In my case, I'm booting the netinst image from USB but the kernel crashes somewhere. The screen is not refreshed after a few kernel messages,

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-01-23 Thread Claudia Neumann
Hi all, hi Adrian, downloaded the image and burnt on DVD. Now the iMac starts from DVD but hangs with: smp_core99_probe smp_core99_bringup_done the ventilator is up high but nothing else happens. I have ATI Radeon X600 (Rev 380) 3E50 (PCIE) Any hints? Claudia Am Dienstag, 23. Januar 2024, 14

Re: Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-01-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Claudia, On Tue, 2024-01-23 at 14:54 +0100, Claudia Neumann wrote: > I have an iMac G5, PowerMac 12,1 PPC970FX, Platform: PowerMac 12,1 MacRISC4 > Power Macinstosh, Memory 1GB+384MB. > > I had installed Ubuntu 16.04.7 LTS and it was running fine. Now I need newer > libc and so

Debian 12 on iMac G5

2024-01-23 Thread Claudia Neumann
Hi all, I have an iMac G5, PowerMac 12,1 PPC970FX, Platform: PowerMac 12,1 MacRISC4 Power Macinstosh, Memory 1GB+384MB. I had installed Ubuntu 16.04.7 LTS and it was running fine. Now I need newer libc and so on. So I wanted to install Debian 12 or even Debian 13 on this iMac. Is that possible

Re: update grub-ieee1275 failed on G5 iMac ppc64

2023-11-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Tue, 2023-11-14 at 20:16 +0700, Jeroen Diederen wrote: > Thank you so much. > I did it on /dev/sda2 though. Yeah, I forgot whether it was sda1 or sda2. I think it's sda1 on sparc64. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer `. `' Physicist `-GPG: 62FF 8A75

Re: update grub-ieee1275 failed on G5 iMac ppc64

2023-11-14 Thread Jeroen Diederen
Hi Adrian, Thank you so much. I did it on /dev/sda2 though. Jeroen John Paul Adrian Glaubitz schreef op 2023-11-14 19:31: Hello! On Tue, 2023-11-14 at 17:17 +0700, Jeroen Diederen wrote: I tried and apt upgrade and it tried to upgrade grub-ieee1275 on a G5 iMac (ppc64) which failed

Re: update grub-ieee1275 failed on G5 iMac ppc64

2023-11-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello! On Tue, 2023-11-14 at 17:17 +0700, Jeroen Diederen wrote: > I tried and apt upgrade and it tried to upgrade grub-ieee1275 on a G5 > iMac (ppc64) which failed. > > Setting up grub-ieee1275 (2.12~rc1-12) ... > Installing for powerpc-ieee1275 platform. > grub-install: er

update grub-ieee1275 failed on G5 iMac ppc64

2023-11-14 Thread Jeroen Diederen
Hello all, I tried and apt upgrade and it tried to upgrade grub-ieee1275 on a G5 iMac (ppc64) which failed. Setting up grub-ieee1275 (2.12~rc1-12) ... Installing for powerpc-ieee1275 platform. grub-install: error: cannot backup `/boot/grub/powerpc-ieee1275/adler32.mod': Read-only

Re: Xorg segfaults on iMac G3 with Rage 128 Pro

2023-05-08 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Monday, May 8, 2023, Ben Westover wrote: > Is this something I can fix, or does modern Xorg just need more VRAM? try 640x480 and/or 16bpp. l. -- --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68

Re: Xorg segfaults on iMac G3 with Rage 128 Pro

2023-05-08 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi! On Sun, 2023-05-07 at 20:20 -0400, Ben Westover wrote: > Hello, > > On 5/7/23 3:14 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > > If you add a return statement like this, does that fix the crash? > > > > /* non-x86 platform */ > > if (!info->VBIOS) { > > otypes[0] = OUTPUT_VGA; > > ret

Re: Xorg segfaults on iMac G3 with Rage 128 Pro

2023-05-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, 2023-05-07 at 20:20 -0400, Ben Westover wrote: ... > (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0 > > Is this something I can fix, or does modern Xorg just need more VRAM? I don't know enough about the Xorg codebase to answer this. It would be a good idea to ask on the upstream mail

Re: Xorg segfaults on iMac G3 with Rage 128 Pro

2023-05-07 Thread Ben Westover
Hello, On 5/7/23 3:14 AM, Paul Wise wrote: If you add a return statement like this, does that fix the crash? /* non-x86 platform */ if (!info->VBIOS) { otypes[0] = OUTPUT_VGA; return; } Yes, it no longer segfaults. It goes past the point where it previously cr

Re: Xorg segfaults on iMac G3 with Rage 128 Pro

2023-05-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, 2023-05-06 at 16:56 -0400, Ben Westover wrote: > (gdb) print info > $1 = (R128InfoPtr) 0x776ed0 > (gdb) print info.VBIOS > $2 = (uint8_t *) 0x0 If you add a return statement like this, does that fix the crash? /* non-x86 platform */ if (!info->VBIOS) { otypes[0] = OUTPUT_

Re: Xorg segfaults on iMac G3 with Rage 128 Pro

2023-05-06 Thread Ben Westover
On 4/18/23 10:44 PM, Paul Wise wrote: These are the macro definitions. #define R128_BIOS8(v) ((info->VBIOS[(v)])) #define R128_BIOS16(v) ((info->VBIOS[(v)]) | \ (info->VBIOS[(v) + 1] << 8)) #define R128_BIOS32(v) ((info->VBIOS[(v)]) | \

Re: Xorg segfaults on iMac G3 with Rage 128 Pro

2023-04-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, 2023-04-18 at 09:42 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Tuesday, April 18, 2023, Ben Westover wrote: > >         /* non-x86 platform */ > >         if (!info->VBIOS) { > >             otypes[0] = OUTPUT_VGA; > >         } > > > >         bios_header = R128_BIOS16(0x48); > > al

Re: Xorg segfaults on iMac G3 with Rage 128 Pro

2023-04-18 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tuesday, April 18, 2023, Ben Westover wrote: > Hello, > > On 4/16/23 10:18 PM, Paul Wise wrote: >> >> There is also the case where you launch Xorg via gdb and then run it. >> >> $ gdb `which Xorg` >> (gdb) run >> (gdb) bt full > > Perfect! I was able to get a full backtrace, which i

Re: Xorg segfaults on iMac G3 with Rage 128 Pro

2023-04-17 Thread Ben Westover
Hello, On 4/16/23 10:18 PM, Paul Wise wrote: There is also the case where you launch Xorg via gdb and then run it. $ gdb `which Xorg` (gdb) run (gdb) bt full Perfect! I was able to get a full backtrace, which is attached. Here's the part that I think is important: Program rec

Re: Xorg segfaults on iMac G3 with Rage 128 Pro

2023-04-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, 2023-04-16 at 15:08 -0400, Ben Westover wrote: > I'm probably doing something wrong (never used gdb before), but Xorg > closes almost instantly after I run it so there's not enough time to > launch gdb before it's already segfaulted. It sounds like these tips are > for when Xorg launche

Re: Xorg segfaults on iMac G3 with Rage 128 Pro

2023-04-16 Thread Ben Westover
Hi, On 4/15/23 10:56 PM, Paul Wise wrote: I think you will need to do some debugging, there are some tips here: https://x.org/wiki/Development/Documentation/ServerDebugging/ I'm probably doing something wrong (never used gdb before), but Xorg closes almost instantly after I run it so there's

Re: Xorg segfaults on iMac G3 with Rage 128 Pro

2023-04-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, 2023-04-15 at 15:46 -0400, Ben Westover wrote: > My system is up to date as of April 15, 2023; I'm running kernel > 6.1.0-7-powerpc with Mesa 22.3.6. Does anyone how to fix this problem? I think you will need to do some debugging, there are some tips here: https://x.org/wiki/Development

Xorg segfaults on iMac G3 with Rage 128 Pro

2023-04-15 Thread Ben Westover
Hello, I have an iMac G3 with a Rage 128 Pro and 1 GB of RAM. I tried to install and run Xfce4, but Xorg segfaults when I try to start it. The full Xorg log is attached, but here is the backtrace at the end: (EE) 0: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg (OsLookupColor+0x240) [0xac4a60] (EE) 1: linux-vdso32.so

Re: ATI rage Pro on iMac G3

2022-11-21 Thread T
start. Following Adrian advice, I installed >>> xserver-xorg-video-r128package but there's no changes. Must I type >>> something particular after installing this package or must I install >>> another package ? >> does your iMac have a mach64 or mach128 video

Re: ATI rage Pro on iMac G3

2022-09-13 Thread David VANTYGHEM
ust I type something particular after installing this package or must I install another package ? does your iMac have a mach64 or mach128 video? (try lspci) :00:10:0 Display Controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Rage 4 [Rage 128 PRO AGP 4X] https://we.tl/t-eTuylBwtlI Did it work i

Re: ATI rage Pro on iMac G3

2022-09-11 Thread Riccardo Mottola
nstalling this package or must I install > another package ? does your iMac have a mach64 or mach128 video? (try lspci) Did it work in the past or is this your first install? Riccardo

Re: ATI rage Pro on iMac G3

2022-09-10 Thread David VANTYGHEM
an't mount USB key on my iMac (mount -t ext4 /dev/sbd /mnt makes errors) so I installed Midnight Commander and used FTP. Log files are here : http://www.education.free.fr/a/ -- Passez à Linux :https://infolib.re .--. |o_o | ||_/ | //\\Envoyé depuis mon Linux (| |) / \_ _/ \ \___)=(___/

Re: ATI rage Pro on iMac G3

2022-09-10 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi David! On 9/9/22 18:58, David VANTYGHEM wrote: I installed last ISO of Debian for PowerPC. All is fine but screen is blank, xserver doesn't start. Following Adrian advice, I installed xserver-xorg-video-r128package but there's no changes. Must I type something particular after installing this

ATI rage Pro on iMac G3

2022-09-09 Thread David VANTYGHEM
Hello, I installed last ISO of Debian for PowerPC. All is fine but screen is blank, xserver doesn't start. Following Adrian advice, I installed xserver-xorg-video-r128package but there's no changes. Must I type something particular after installing this package or must I install another packa

Re: success on a PowerPC iMac 6,1

2021-11-01 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Ken! On 10/31/21 23:39, Ken Cunningham wrote: > I thought I would mention a successful debian install on a PowerPC iMac 6,1: > > $ cat /proc/cpuinfo > processor : 0 > cpu : 7455, altivec supported > clock : 999.97MHz > revision : 3.3 (pvr

success on a PowerPC iMac 6,1

2021-10-31 Thread Ken Cunningham
Hello, I thought I would mention a successful debian install on a PowerPC iMac 6,1: $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : 7455, altivec supported clock : 999.97MHz revision: 3.3 (pvr 8001 0303) bogomips: 66.56 timebase: 33280357 platform

Re: Debian on iMac G5

2021-09-01 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Mitch! On 8/31/21 17:38, Mitch MRC wrote: > i used my iMac until the official support of Deb 10 was closed.I want to > update the system and reinstall everything,Can anyone point me where to > start? ISO, configs . Use the image provided here [1]. Just install normally but make sure

Re: iMac G3 r128 - failed to load module "r128"

2021-03-03 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi! John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Good news on this issue: Adrian Bunk has kindly stepped up and is working on > re-adding > the legacy driver packages to the Debian archive [1]. So users will be able > to use > X on the affected machines in the near future again. Good news then! > If a

Re: iMac G3 r128 - failed to load module "r128"

2021-02-27 Thread Johannes Brakensiek
On 27 Feb 2021, at 14:10, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: I'm pretty sure, it does. I have used it myself. I can confirm it works. You are even able to install on a PowerMac G5 using the broken image if you follow those hints: https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2021/01/msg00035.html

Re: iMac G3 r128 - failed to load module "r128"

2021-02-27 Thread Ed Robbins
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 at 11:33, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz < glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de> wrote: > Hello! > > On 5/23/20 9:52 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > On 5/23/20 9:48 PM, Jeroen Diederen wrote: > >> I installed Debian Sid on an old iMac G3 500 with an

Re: iMac G3 r128 - failed to load module "r128"

2021-02-27 Thread Johannes Brakensiek
On 27 Feb 2021, at 14:10, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: I'm pretty sure, it does. I have used it myself. I can confirm it works. You are even able to install on a PowerMac G5 using the broken image if you follow these hints: https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2021/01/msg00035.html

Re: iMac G3 r128 - failed to load module "r128"

2021-02-27 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 2/27/21 1:57 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> It does. > > Ack, thanks. > > The in does not work in practice. I'm pretty sure, it does. I have used it myself. You can retry that when I publish the next set of images. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub

Re: iMac G3 r128 - failed to load module "r128"

2021-02-27 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 7:55 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Hello Jeffrey! > > On 2/27/21 1:37 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > >> If anyone knows about some particular fixes that are required for the > >> drivers - such > >> as for the eMac - it would be nice if we could assemble a list of t

Re: iMac G3 r128 - failed to load module "r128"

2021-02-27 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Jeffrey! On 2/27/21 1:37 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> If anyone knows about some particular fixes that are required for the >> drivers - such >> as for the eMac - it would be nice if we could assemble a list of these >> fixes so they >> can be integrated into the Debian packages later. The

Re: iMac G3 r128 - failed to load module "r128"

2021-02-27 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Hi Adrian, On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 6:33 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > On 5/23/20 9:52 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > On 5/23/20 9:48 PM, Jeroen Diederen wrote: > >> I installed Debian Sid on an old iMac G3 500 with an ATI Rage 128 card. I > >>

Re: iMac G3 r128 - failed to load module "r128"

2021-02-27 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello! On 5/23/20 9:52 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 5/23/20 9:48 PM, Jeroen Diederen wrote: >> I installed Debian Sid on an old iMac G3 500 with an ATI Rage 128 card. I >> cannot >> get X working. In the /var/log/Xorg.0.log I can see that r128 module fails >

Upcoming parted release - was: Re: More debug infos - was: Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-27 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello! On 1/5/21 2:53 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > It's been localized down to "ped_disk_new(device_named(device_name)" in line > 1224. So it's a crash libparted. And one theory is that this crash occurs > due to the Mac partitioning scheme. There is a new upstream of parted due to be r

Re: More debug infos - was: Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-10 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 1/10/21 9:35 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > Hmmm... "then the debian-installer stuffs this in a dialog box, presumably > to select the drive to install to." > Is the dialog box somehow not getting to be displayed? If it's expecting an > answer from the dialog box, but you can't see it to answer, tha

Re: More debug infos - was: Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, at 8:46 AM, Alex Perez wrote:> > John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote on 1/4/2021 1:56 AM: > > My guess is that this issue can be worked around by zeroing the partition > > table of the system before installing Debian. > > > > Can someone give it a try? > I did so, zeroing out m

Re: More debug infos - was: Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-09 Thread Alex Perez
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote on 1/4/2021 1:56 AM: My guess is that this issue can be worked around by zeroing the partition table of the system before installing Debian. Can someone give it a try? I did so, zeroing out my drive first, with the latest 2020-01-03 netinst image, and it seems

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-09 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Once Linux is fully installed, the system runs quiet when doing nothing (console prompt) and remains quiet when doing several things (also unexpected ones). There were multiple bugs in the windfarm drivers in the upstream kernel such as [1], make sure you

Re: More debug infos - was: Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 1/5/21 2:53 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > It's been localized down to "ped_disk_new(device_named(device_name)" in line > 1224. So it's a crash libparted. And one theory is that this crash occurs > due to the Mac partitioning scheme. Next I will build a libparted with debug printf() cal

Re: More debug infos - was: Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello! On 1/4/21 6:38 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > Firstly I want to say that you have done more than most people have ever > done here to ensure we the people have Debian on ports type machines. > You have been doing all the heavy lifting for years. That is not even > remotely fair. Thanks for the

Re: More debug infos - was: Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-04 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 1/3/21 11:40 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 1/3/21 10:30 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> FWIW, the source code is here: >> >>> https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/partman-base/-/blob/master/parted_server.c >> >> If anyone has any clever idea, please let me know. >> Good m

Re: More debug infos - was: Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 1/4/21 10:39 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Might be an idea to update src:parted to the latest upstream version which > hasn't happend yet in Debian. My guess is that this issue can be worked around by zeroing the partition table of the system before installing Debian. Can someone giv

Re: More debug infos - was: Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 1/4/21 10:01 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > The resulting logfile is (ignore the noise in the beginning, scroll to the > end): > >> https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/partman/powerpc/partman.debug.log > > Thus, it stops at "set_disk_named(device_name, > ped_disk_new(device_named(dev

Re: More debug infos - was: Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello! On 1/4/21 2:32 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 1/4/21 2:02 AM, Cameron MacPherson wrote: >> #define oprintf(...) \({ \char *msg_oprintf; \ >>fprintf(outfifo,__VA_ARGS__); \ >> fflush(outfifo); \msg_oprintf = >> xasprintf(__VA

Re: More debug infos - was: Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-03 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 6:40 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > On 1/3/21 10:30 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > FWIW, the source code is here: > > > >> https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/partman-base/-/blob/master/parted_server.c > > > > If anyone has any clever idea, please let

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-03 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 4:30 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > On 1/3/21 10:25 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > The stuff is open source, if anyone is interested in getting this fixed, > > please > > start reading the code and help me. > > FWIW, the source code is here: > > > https:/

Re: More debug infos - was: Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 1/4/21 2:02 AM, Cameron MacPherson wrote: > #define oprintf(...) \({ \char *msg_oprintf; \ >fprintf(outfifo,__VA_ARGS__); \ > fflush(outfifo); \msg_oprintf = > xasprintf(__VA_ARGS__); \log("OUT: %s\n", > msg_oprintf); \

More debug infos - was: Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 1/3/21 10:30 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > FWIW, the source code is here: > >> https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/partman-base/-/blob/master/parted_server.c > > If anyone has any clever idea, please let me know. > > And if someone wants to debug the issue with the hanging partio

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-03 Thread Cameron MacPherson
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 1:30 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz < glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de> wrote: > On 1/3/21 10:25 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > The stuff is open source, if anyone is interested in getting this fixed, > please > > start reading the code and help me. > > FWIW, the source

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 1/3/21 10:25 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > The stuff is open source, if anyone is interested in getting this fixed, > please > start reading the code and help me. FWIW, the source code is here: > https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/partman-base/-/blob/master/parted_server.c If a

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 1/3/21 9:32 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 1/3/21 6:15 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> On 1/3/21 7:10 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: >>> I thought we had all agreed that grub was the only way forwards? >> >> I did not say that GRUB was going away :-). > > Well sad to say that the install d

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 1/3/21 6:15 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 1/3/21 7:10 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> I thought we had all agreed that grub was the only way forwards? > > I did not say that GRUB was going away :-). Well sad to say that the install did fail on ye old Apple PowerMac G5. On the inst

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 1/3/21 7:10 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > I thought we had all agreed that grub was the only way forwards? I did not say that GRUB was going away :-). > Maybe I will glance down the maillist here and see what has been > happening. Also I see a new installer image for 2021-01-03 but m

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 1/3/21 10:49 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 12/30/20 11:55 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: >> Right now, it apparently is an older version: >> >> Linux PPC970FX 4.16.0-1-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 4.16.5-1 (2018-04-29) ppc64 >> GNU/Linux > > Way too old. > >> But yaboot doesn't find it, s

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 12/30/20 11:55 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Right now, it apparently is an older version: > > Linux PPC970FX 4.16.0-1-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 4.16.5-1 (2018-04-29) ppc64 > GNU/Linux Way too old. > But yaboot doesn't find it, so I have to boot "old". Maybe this is part of > the issue. > >

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 12/30/20 9:57 AM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > it is my first time I run linux on an iMac G5 and have some doubts about its > cooling. > > I noticed that while installing Debian, the fan spins at full speed and it > really deserves > the term "windfarm", it is

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2020-12-31 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hey Rick! On 12/31/20 4:36 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: You have vmlinux -> vmlinux-5.9.0-5-powerpc64 But there is no actual file named "vmlinux-5.9.0-5-powerpc64" in the directory. Maybe that's your problem? keen eyes, you spotted it! very strange to happen, the file mas missing. I reinstal

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2020-12-30 Thread Rick Thomas
You have vmlinux -> vmlinux-5.9.0-5-powerpc64 But there is no actual file named "vmlinux-5.9.0-5-powerpc64" in the directory. Maybe that's your problem? Rick On Wed, Dec 30, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Hi Mathieu, > > > On 12/30/20 10:22 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > > Ther

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2020-12-30 Thread Cameron MacPherson
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 2:55 PM Riccardo Mottola wrote: > But yaboot doesn't find it, so I have to boot "old". Maybe this is part > of the issue. > make sure you run ybin -v after making changes cam

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2020-12-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Mathieu, On 12/30/20 10:22 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: There was a regression at some point, did you check: *https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2020/03/msg00035.html What's your kernel version ? Right now, it apparently is an older version: Linux PPC970FX 4.16.0-1-powerpc64 #1 SM

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2020-12-30 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
Hi Riccardo, On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 9:57 AM Riccardo Mottola wrote: > > Hi, > > it is my first time I run linux on an iMac G5 and have some doubts about > its cooling. There was a regression at some point, did you check: * https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2020/03/msg000

iMac G5 "windfarm"

2020-12-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, it is my first time I run linux on an iMac G5 and have some doubts about its cooling. I noticed that while installing Debian, the fan spins at full speed and it really deserves the term "windfarm", it is as loud as a vacuum cleaner. Once Linux is fully installed, the system

Re: iMac G3 r128 - failed to load module "r128"

2020-05-26 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/26/20 10:43 AM, Jeroen Diederen wrote: > Another update. I used the patch as provided by Adrian. I rebuilt the driver > and installed it on the iMac G3 / 500. The patch makes X work much better, I > get a lot further now. Unfortunately, after a lot of fiddling around with > xor

Re: iMac G3 r128 - failed to load module "r128"

2020-05-26 Thread Jeroen Diederen
Another update. I used the patch as provided by Adrian. I rebuilt the driver and installed it on the iMac G3 / 500. The patch makes X work much better, I get a lot further now. Unfortunately, after a lot of fiddling around with xorg.conf files and ModeLines and stuff I gave up for the moment

Re: iMac G3 r128 - failed to load module "r128"

2020-05-24 Thread Jeroen Diederen
Hi Adrian, Here is a follow up on the iMac project. I built xserver-xorg-video-r128 from the buster source (6.12.0). I did not patch the source yet. After installing the driver and trying to start X I get the following: [ 259.895] X.Org X Server 1.20.8 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0

Re: iMac G3 r128 - failed to load module "r128"

2020-05-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/23/20 9:55 PM, Jeroen Diederen wrote: > Can I build the driver myself and test it ? Sure. Just clone them from here [1] and build and install them. You might need this patch [2]. Adrian > [1] https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-r128/ > [2] > https://github.com/void-linux/vo

Re: iMac G3 r128 - failed to load module "r128"

2020-05-23 Thread Jeroen Diederen
Can I build the driver myself and test it ? On 5/23/20 9:52 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi Jereon! On 5/23/20 9:48 PM, Jeroen Diederen wrote: I installed Debian Sid on an old iMac G3 500 with an ATI Rage 128 card. I cannot get X working. In the /var/log/Xorg.0.log I can see that r128

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