Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-09 Thread Nelson Abramson
Logan Hall wrote: > > You could probably use tome viewer (or whatever mosX version it would be) > > to just > > extract those files... > > Hmm.. now i just need to get the installer. I hope it comes with macos X > client because i can aford to buy that. > IIRC, there isn't going to be a client

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-09 Thread Logan Hall
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Nelson Abramson wrote: > Logan Hall wrote: > > > > The Apple 875 card doesn't have OF drivers in it by default. But I > > > remember seeing an Apple-made flasher that adds those. I think it's > > > included in the MacOS X Server installer. > > > > Cool. Is there a way to inst

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-09 Thread Nelson Abramson
Logan Hall wrote: > > The Apple 875 card doesn't have OF drivers in it by default. But I > > remember seeing an Apple-made flasher that adds those. I think it's > > included in the MacOS X Server installer. > > Cool. Is there a way to install it with out MacOS X server? Will it be > included wit

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-09 Thread BenH
On Tue, Feb 8, 2000, Logan Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Cool. Is there a way to install it with out MacOS X server? Will it be >included with MacOS X Client do you think? I don't know.

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-09 Thread Logan Hall
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Mon, Feb 7, 2000, Logan Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I have run quik on my Linux partition and using some examples i found in the > >FAQ-O-MATIC i set my boot variables (i don't have them infront of me but this > >is as close as i can

Re: netboot-capable pmacs (was Re: booting from openfirmware)

2000-02-09 Thread BenH
On Tue, Feb 8, 2000, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Since you've done some netbooting, i figured i'd ask ... do you know what >Mac models can be successfully booted from the network? Apple says only >NewWorld macs, but a) that's for OS X's NetBoot Server b) it's Apple, >they lie c) obviously there

netboot-capable pmacs (was Re: booting from openfirmware)

2000-02-08 Thread james
On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 04:06:20PM +0100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > Then you can grab the resulting file in arch/ppc/coffboot/vmlinux.coff > which is a valid XCOFF image that old OFs can load. I use it to netboot a > wallstreet powerbook when doing tests and it works just fine. Note that > so

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-08 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Mon, Feb 7, 2000, Logan Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have run quik on my Linux partition and using some examples i found in the >FAQ-O-MATIC i set my boot variables (i don't have them infront of me but this >is as close as i can remember): > >boot-device /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-08 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 04:12:46PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > Quik is the spawn of the devel. I'm looking into miBoot as a > replacement at this point. Ditto yaBoot. Both of these are a wee bit > too MacOS dependent right now, but that should be surmountable... miBoot is a bit macos d

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Brad Midgley
> Yep, the older OF's speak COFF - not perfectly, but usably. the OF on oldworld macs is so fragile things would break all the time. say the words "default catch" and developers shudder. ;) there are workarounds galore and some only apply to a specific computer model. miboot is the cleanest and m

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 05:18:19AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 05:21:49AM -0800, Joel Klecker wrote: > > > > That's not true, even the most broken versions of Apple OF understand HFS > > filesystems on floppies at least. > > they do? interesting, from docs i had read from

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:45:46AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if there is any information out there about booting the > potato floppies using open-firmware on a powermac? > > I have a UMAX S900 (clone 9500 motherboard) and I would love to install > debian linux o

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Logan Hall
On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Mon, Feb 7, 2000, Logan Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >What computers does the SystemDisk tool support? I have a Biege G3 > tower (the > >ones that shipped just before they switched to B&W). Also will the > SystemDisk > >tool work to

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Mon, Feb 7, 2000, Logan Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >What computers does the SystemDisk tool support? I have a Biege G3 tower (the >ones that shipped just before they switched to B&W). Also will the SystemDisk >tool work to boot linux at all? I use BootX right now but I am looking into >

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Logan Hall
On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Mon, Feb 7, 2000, Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >That's not true, even the most broken versions of Apple OF understand HFS > >filesystems on floppies at least. > > Hum... yes and no... > > OldWorld machines do have HFS support

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Mon, Feb 7, 2000, Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >That's not true, even the most broken versions of Apple OF understand HFS >filesystems on floppies at least. Hum... yes and no... OldWorld machines do have HFS support, but it's somewhat bogus. Basically, it works as long as you f

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 05:21:49AM -0800, Joel Klecker wrote: > > That's not true, even the most broken versions of Apple OF understand HFS > filesystems on floppies at least. they do? interesting, from docs i had read from apple it sounded like newworld was the only ones with any useful ability

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Joel Klecker
At 01:41 -0900 2000-02-07, Ethan Benson wrote: >On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:45:46AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> 0 > setenv boot-device fd:0 ok >> >> 0 > setenv boot-file /linux load_ramdisk=1 root=/dev/ram video=keep ok >> >> 0 > boot unrecognized Client Program formatstate not valid >> >>

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:45:46AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if there is any information out there about booting the > potato floppies using open-firmware on a powermac? > > I have a UMAX S900 (clone 9500 motherboard) and I would love to install > debian linux o

booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread gsteele
Hello, I was wondering if there is any information out there about booting the potato floppies using open-firmware on a powermac? I have a UMAX S900 (clone 9500 motherboard) and I would love to install debian linux on it. I am able to access the OF prompt through the serial port from my intel lin