Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

> However, fan control is very important. I'm very interested in buying > a dual-G5, but I want a silent machine... it is (module therm_pm72) :) > Is there a web page that says what is supported exactly and what isn't? http://ppc.bkbits.net:8080/linuxppc-2.5-benh Browsing the source tree is of

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On 2004-02-17 11:31:13 +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > The g5 is now well supported. Could you tell us more, please? On (found with Google), I can read: Debian is known to have a full working ppc64 port, isos are downloadable from t

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

Em Seg, 2004-02-16 às 21:31, Benjamin Herrenschmidt escreveu: > On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 08:51, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra > wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:19:45 +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > >> BTW, do you have your G5 already? ;-) > > > > > > No :( > > Heh, you are

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 08:51, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:19:45 +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > >>BTW, do you have your G5 already? ;-) > > > > No :( > > This is what makes me loose faith in big companies... Heh, you are replying to

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:19:45 +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: >> BTW, do you have your G5 already? ;-) > > No :( This is what makes me loose faith in big companies... -- _ / \ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra +41 (21) 648 11 34 \ / http://br.geocities.com./lgcd

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 20:05, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:49:46 +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 01:12, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra > > wrote: > >> > >>I guess system programmers should get new hardware *befo

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

Em Fri, 04 Jul 2003 12:38:13 +0200, Michel Dänzer escreveu: > On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 21:56, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra > wrote: >> >> Well, suppose I got really rich and had a chance to throw in something >> else so as to make time easier to find? > > This is getting very hypothe

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 21:56, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 19:13:25 +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > I wouldn't count on it. Even if I had anywhere near Ben's skills and > > knowledge about Apple hardware (and hardware in general), I might have > > difficulty

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, [iso-8859-1] Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 19:13:25 +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > I wouldn't count on it. Even if I had anywhere near Ben's skills and > > knowledge about Apple hardware (and hardware in general), I might have > > diff

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 19:13:25 +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > I wouldn't count on it. Even if I had anywhere near Ben's skills and > knowledge about Apple hardware (and hardware in general), I might have > difficulty finding the time. Well, suppose I got really rich and had a chance to throw

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 11:21, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:06:48 +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > I'm Swiss, but merely a cheap unreliable no-name clone of Ben at best. > > Would that mean if I shipped you a PowerMac G5 I would get it running > Debi

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:06:48 +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > I'm Swiss, but merely a cheap unreliable no-name clone of Ben at best. Would that mean if I shipped you a PowerMac G5 I would get it running Debian after a few weeks? Obviously, just in case I strike rich... -- _ / \

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

Kevin B. Hendricks wrote: Sometimes I think that Apple (and most other companies) do not understand the impact of community goodwill, and its true value. Saying Apple itself is vague. It comes down to individual people. There have been people in the past at Apple very sympathetic to Linux. M

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Wednesday 02 July 2003 14:49, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > Well, they do... internally to Apple ;) Apple is quite clear in it's > total absence of interest about Linux on their machines. Some ppl here > even consider us as a competitor... I remember an apple conference about Mac OS X, someon

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:49:46 +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 01:12, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra > wrote: >> >> I guess system programmers should get new hardware *before* application >> programmers... > > Well, they do... internally to Apple ;) Apple

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

Hi, > Well, they do... internally to Apple ;) Apple is quite clear in it's > total absence of interest about Linux on their machines. Some ppl here > even consider us as a competitor... And I remember all of the time and effort many of us in the community put in to help Apple in its MkLinux proj

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 01:15, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:57:41 -0500, Jeramy Smith wrote: > > > Do you live in France? Are you going to buy a G5? Then put Ben down as > > the shipping address. Its that simple folks. > > Is there a Swiss versio

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 01:12, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 08:33:26 +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > Heh, that machine isn't out yet !!! NOBODY has one (except maybe Adobe to > > tune Photoshop benchmarks ;) > > I guess system programmers shou

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:57:41 -0500, Jeramy Smith wrote: > Do you live in France? Are you going to buy a G5? Then put Ben down as > the shipping address. Its that simple folks. Is there a Swiss version of Ben? ;-) Just in case I get rich... -- _ / \ Leandro Guimarães Fa

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 08:33:26 +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > Heh, that machine isn't out yet !!! NOBODY has one (except maybe Adobe to > tune Photoshop benchmarks ;) I guess system programmers should get new hardware *before* application programmers... OTOH hand this shows

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 08:19, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 02:31, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: >> *Very* nice to know. Do you mean you are >> the main driver developer for the PowerMacs? > > I maintain the PowerMac port of the kernel, yes. > >> BTW, do you

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 18:19, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:19:45 +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > >>BTW, do you have your G5 already? ;-) > > > > No :( > > This is what makes me loose faith in big companies... and what > makes them lo

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

> > > >> BTW, do you have your G5 already? ;-) > > > > No :( > > There's always the conspiracy theory. > > FreeBSD competes with Linux. Jordan Hubbard, former > leader of the FreeBSD project, now works for Apple. > Coincidence > > :-) Hehe, maybe :) > If not, maybe he could get you a bar

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

So far, YDL isn't doing any developement work on the kernel or drivers. They do support me in some ways, they do a bunch of testing and they have a lot of work setting up a working userland environement, but most of the PowerMac driver work to support new machines is done by me on my spare time. (

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 02:19:45PM +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 02:31, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra > wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:24:42 +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > > So far, YDL isn't doing any developement work on the kernel or > >

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:19:45 +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: >> BTW, do you have your G5 already? ;-) > > No :( This is what makes me loose faith in big companies... and what makes them loose my business. -- _ / \ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra +41 (21) 648

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 02:31, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:24:42 +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > So far, YDL isn't doing any developement work on the kernel or > > drivers. They do support me in some ways, they do a bunch of testing and > > they

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:24:42 +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > So far, YDL isn't doing any developement work on the kernel or > drivers. They do support me in some ways, they do a bunch of testing and > they have a lot of work setting up a working userland environement, but > most of the Powe

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

At 0:39 Uhr +0900 26.06.2003, Vincent Lefevre wrote: it is supported (I have a French Titanium with a Debian distribution), but not completely: fnset doesn't work on it (BTW, I couldn't find fnset in Debian -- is there a replacement?). Try powerprefs. (Note that it's dependency pbbuttonsd some

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 08:30:17 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 06:28:48PM +0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti > Dutra wrote: >> I mean, YD has a commitment to support the PowerMacs in the >> US, bringing drivers and all that up to date and integrated. Not >> applicable

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

> I mean, YD has a commitment to support the PowerMacs in the > US, bringing drivers and all that up to date and integrated. Not > applicable to Debian nor to Europe -- French Switzerland in > particular. So far, YDL isn't doing any developement work on the kernel or drivers. They do suppo

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 06:28:48PM +0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 15:07:20 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:02:11PM +0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti > > Dutra wrote: > > > >>The fact is that even at their US websit

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 15:07:20 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:02:11PM +0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti > Dutra wrote: > >> The fact is that even at their US website the information is >> sketchy. There seems to be a preocuppation about preventing infoglut, >> b

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 15:07:20 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:02:11PM +0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti > Dutra wrote: > > Considering that Debian GNU/Linux on the Apple Macintosh is > > unsupported in Europe. > > Err, the apple macintosh is supported by Debian

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:02:11PM +0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:32:10 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:33:33AM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > >> > >> Same difference, it's not shipping for quite some time :) > > > > Noti

Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:32:10 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:33:33AM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: >> >> Same difference, it's not shipping for quite some time :) > > Notice that IBM also plan to ship some ppc 970 using boxes, so these > would probably make decent linux box