Re: Supported models

2001-11-26 Thread Chris Tillman
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 11:30:28AM -0800, Grant Bowman wrote: > * Chris Tillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011125 20:33]: > > Thanks everyone, it's updated now. Send any changes my way. > > Hi there! First, thank you very much for your efforts. I appreciate > being able to install Linux on my OldWorld

Re: Supported models

2001-11-26 Thread Grant Bowman
* Chris Tillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011125 20:33]: > On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 11:58:44AM +0200, Andreas W?st wrote: > > This would of course be a fine tool, though I am wondering why not to just > > put > > an up-to-date model list up to > > http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/install.en.html

Re: Supported models

2001-11-25 Thread Chris Tillman
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 11:58:44AM +0200, Andreas W?st wrote: > Hi > > > i have an idea on this... how about a small Mac OS application that you > > could d/l and run and it would read the gestalt id and report weather the > > machine will run and what dist minimum to use (i.e Beige G3 would repor

Re: Supported models

2001-11-09 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, sloopy malibu wrote: > i havnt heard anything on my offer on this... but i have been doing some > playing around with a Mac OS App similar to what i had proposed earlier > (recap: and application for a user to download and run to let them know > if their particular machine has

Re: Supported models

2001-11-09 Thread sloopy malibu
on 11/5/01 11:23 PM using moldy cheese [EMAIL PROTECTED] engraved this message > sloopy malibu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> on 11/5/01 2:56 AM using moldy cheese [EMAIL PROTECTED] engraved this >> message >>> but again, if someone would like to maintain a relativly distro >>> independent hardware

Re: Supported models

2001-11-05 Thread Ron Farrer
sloopy malibu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > on 11/5/01 2:56 AM using moldy cheese [EMAIL PROTECTED] engraved this > message > > > > but again, if someone would like to maintain a relativly distro > > independent hardware list on penguinppc let me know for an account. i > > don't think the curren

Re: Supported models

2001-11-05 Thread sloopy malibu
on 11/5/01 2:56 AM using moldy cheese [EMAIL PROTECTED] engraved this message > but again, if someone would like to maintain a relativly distro > independent hardware list on penguinppc let me know for an account. i > don't think the current lists have anyone really doing much maintainence. i c

Re: Supported models

2001-11-05 Thread Andreas Wüst
Hi [big snip] >> Because, if some newbie enters debian.org, interested in debian for >> powerpc, he will first get trough to the ports pages (if he knows what >> ports mean), then > > exactly what happened to me > >> to powerpc, and finally to install, where he will be presented a list which >>

Re: Supported models

2001-11-05 Thread Andreas Wüst
> On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 07:51:28PM +0200, Andreas Wüst wrote: >> >> So, thats fine, but there should be at least an up-to-date list available >> (listing only debian releases) on the debian website, where one not has to >> first search for the testing install-manual (which is not obvious) to get

Re: Supported models

2001-11-05 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 05:33:18AM -0500, Joseph Fannin wrote: > > I could save everyone some trouble by learning to use the reply-all > button, I guess. I don't like reply-to munging at all, but I suppose I've > gotten used to it. no use list-reply not reply-all. -- Ethan Benson http://

Re: Supported models

2001-11-05 Thread Joseph Fannin
On Sunday 04 November 2001 13:10, Andreas Wüst wrote: > >> Please remember e.g. the mail of Joseph Fannin ("gcc in woody?") who > >> asked: > >> > >>Um, is it just me, or is there no compiler in woody? > >> > >>Until I found this list, I was beginning to think the powerpc port > >> was no l

Re: Supported models

2001-11-05 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 07:51:28PM +0200, Andreas Wüst wrote: > > So, thats fine, but there should be at least an up-to-date list available > (listing only debian releases) > on the debian website, where one not has to first search for the testing > install-manual (which is not obvious) to get a b

Re: Supported models

2001-11-04 Thread Chris Tillman
On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 07:51:28PM +0200, Andreas W?st wrote: > Hi > > >> Maybe I did not not correctly explain myself, but I meant a list > >> corresponding to the debian releases (potato, woody, future releases) in > >> the first place, sitting on the debian ports page, although > > > > well th

Re: Supported models

2001-11-04 Thread Andreas Wüst
>> Please remember e.g. the mail of Joseph Fannin ("gcc in woody?") who asked: >> >>Um, is it just me, or is there no compiler in woody? >> >>Until I found this list, I was beginning to think the powerpc port was >> no longer maintained. It sounds like people are running woody, tho >>

Re: Supported models

2001-11-04 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sun, 2001-11-04 at 18:51, Andreas Wüst wrote: > Please remember e.g. the mail of Joseph Fannin ("gcc in woody?") who asked: > > > Um, is it just me, or is there no compiler in woody? > > > > Until I found this list, I was beginning to think the powerpc port was > > no longer maintain

Re: Supported models

2001-11-04 Thread Andreas Wüst
Hi >> Maybe I did not not correctly explain myself, but I meant a list >> corresponding to the debian releases (potato, woody, future releases) in >> the first place, sitting on the debian ports page, although > > well this is easy, put the list in sgml format into the boot-floppies > source tree

Re: Supported models

2001-11-04 Thread Tom Rini
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 09:42:11PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: > On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 01:32:15PM -0700, Tom Rini wrote: > > Anyhow, 'MPC 8xx' isn't > > prep, it's 8xx, and is a CPU identifier. Just like MPC 7xx, 7xx, 6xx > > and 7xxx (Motorola's "official" way of saying 74xx). Debian doesn't >

Re: Supported models

2001-11-04 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 12:10:47PM +0200, Andreas Wüst wrote: > > as for getting a link on the ports page, i suppose you have to talk to > > debian-www about that, getting debian pages updated seems to have been > > a somewhat slow process at the very least, > > No possibility to speed up the proc

Re: Supported models

2001-11-04 Thread Andreas Wüst
Hi >> This to help newbies/potentials who are interested in Debian and are >> looking for information about their model. I think it would be the wrong >> way to just point them to the install-manual (which of course is great, and >> does also have to have up-to-date model information), so model re

Re: Supported models

2001-11-04 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 02:30:25AM -0500, sloopy malibu wrote: > well i looked into this this even... and it seems i will need ALOT > of nails to nail this jelly to the tree... it seems almost all old > world machines have unique gestalt id's which is fine but all > new world machines use the SAME

Re: Supported models

2001-11-04 Thread sloopy malibu
on 11/3/01 2:35 PM using moldy cheese [EMAIL PROTECTED] engraved this message > On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 02:16:24AM -0500, sloopy malibu wrote: >> >> i have an idea on this... how about a small Mac OS application that you >> could d/l and run and it would read the gestalt id and report weather the

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Chris Tillman
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 01:32:15PM -0700, Tom Rini wrote: > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 08:56:06PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: > > Here's a revision. > [snip] > > Motorola > > Firepower, PowerStack Series E, PowerStack II prep > > MPC 7xx, 8xx

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 05:32:36PM +0200, Andreas Wüst wrote: > OK, I now see why they are outdated, but I would not consider this as an > excuse to not set up a page with proper, current, up-to-date information about > supported models, and which distro/boot-floppies would be best to s

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Tom Rini
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 08:56:06PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: > Here's a revision. [snip] > Motorola > Firepower, PowerStack Series E, PowerStack II prep > MPC 7xx, 8xxprep > MTX, MTX+

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Chris Tillman
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 02:16:24AM -0500, sloopy malibu wrote: > > i have an idea on this... how about a small Mac OS application that you > could d/l and run and it would read the gestalt id and report weather the > machine will run and what dist minimum to use (i.e Beige G3 would report > someth

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Andreas Wüst
outdated, but I would not consider this as an excuse to not set up a page with proper, current, up-to-date information about supported models, and which distro/boot-floppies would be best to start with (just like sloopy suggested doing with some piece of software, which would also be nice). This

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 11:58:44AM +0200, Andreas Wüst wrote: > Hi > > > i have an idea on this... how about a small Mac OS application that you > > could d/l and run and it would read the gestalt id and report weather the > > machine will run and what dist minimum to use (i.e Beige G3 would repor

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Andreas Wüst
Hi > i have an idea on this... how about a small Mac OS application that you > could d/l and run and it would read the gestalt id and report weather the > machine will run and what dist minimum to use (i.e Beige G3 would report > something like 'This machine would need bootx to startup and Dist 2.

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Andreas Wüst
Hi Chris > Here's a revision. [snip] > Amiga Power-UP Systems (APUS) >UMAX A1200, A3000, A4000apus Uuuhh, did not know, Phase5 boards are now manufactured by UMAX? ;) Just to clean up some confusion, Amiga Power-UP Systems (aka APUS) have nothing to do with UMAX at

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread sloopy malibu
i have an idea on this... how about a small Mac OS application that you could d/l and run and it would read the gestalt id and report weather the machine will run and what dist minimum to use (i.e Beige G3 would report something like 'This machine would need bootx to startup and Dist 2.2r2 or newe

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Laurent de Segur
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 21:01:14 -0800 (PST) > To: Chris Tillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Subject: Re: Supported models > Resent-From: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org > > "Slot-loading" alone is too ambiguous, since the next several g

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Matt Brubeck
"Slot-loading" alone is too ambiguous, since the next several generations of iMacs will probably fit that description. One can imagine a user purchasing a new iMac, seeing "iMac (slot loading)" on a compatible list, and thiking that his model will work when in fact it doesn't. You and I know that

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread German Poo Caaman~o
En sáb, 2001-11-03 a 00:56, Chris Tillman escribio: > Here's a revision. > Model Name/Number Architecture > ----- > [...] > IBM RS/6000 > 40P, 43Pprep >

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Chris Tillman
Here's a revision. Model Name/Number Architecture ----- Apple iMac Bondi Blue, 5 Flavors, Slot Loadingpowermac-NewWorld iMac Summer 2000, Early 2001powermac-NewWo

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Chris Tillman
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 04:15:06PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > For a resource such as this, I suggest naming the models as they are on > their nameplates, where this is possible (sometimes manufacturers call > two very different products the exact same thing -- I don't know if > Apple is guilt

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 04:15:06PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > For a resource such as this, I suggest naming the models as they are on > their nameplates, where this is possible (sometimes manufacturers call > two very different products the exact same thing -- I don't know if > Apple is gu

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Robert Bar
At 19:03 Uhr -0700 01.11.2001, Chris Tillman wrote: To close bug #57369, I think all we need is a list of powerpc models supported by Debian. Please add, correct, or otherwise munge: (...) +OldWorld + - Performa 4400, 54xx, 5500, 6300/160, 6360, 6400, 6500 + - Power Macintosh 7300, 7600,

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 03:22:31PM -0500, Joseph Fannin wrote: > On Friday 02 November 2001 00:24, Chris Tillman wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 12:17:00AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 11:36:25PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 06:55

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > one thing to keep in mind is woody will ship with a specific kernel > > (probably 2.2.19 or 2.2.20) and will not ever upgrade that kernel once > > woody is stable. so when the current kernel that supports some new > > mac is 4.4.12 debian woody will still be using 2.2.19 which won't > > suppor

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Joseph Fannin
On Friday 02 November 2001 00:24, Chris Tillman wrote: > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 12:17:00AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 11:36:25PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 06:55:32PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote: > > > > Chris Tillman wrote: > > > > >

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Tom Rini
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 06:54:33AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 09:53:20AM +0100, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Chris Tillman wrote: > > > > > To close bug #57369, I think all we need is a list of powerpc models > > > supported by Debian. Please add, correc

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 09:53:20AM +0100, Michael Schmitz wrote: > On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Chris Tillman wrote: > > > To close bug #57369, I think all we need is a list of powerpc models > > supported by Debian. Please add, correct, or otherwise munge: > > Bad idea, rather point people to some online

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Michael Schmitz
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Chris Tillman wrote: > To close bug #57369, I think all we need is a list of powerpc models > supported by Debian. Please add, correct, or otherwise munge: Bad idea, rather point people to some online list at a site like penguinppc.org... Models known to have no support whatso

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Chris Tillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > + - Power Macintosh G4/466, 533, 667, 733 (Digital Audio) Power Macintosh G4/533MP (Digital Audio) -- Lars Brinkhoff http://lars.nocrew.org/ Linux, GCC, PDP-10 Brinkhoff Consultinghttp://www.brinkhoff.se/programming

Re: Supported models

2001-11-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 09:07:30PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 06:55:32PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote: > > Chris Tillman wrote: > > > > > > +OldWorld > > > + - Performa 4400, 54xx, 5500, 6300/160, 6360, 6400, 6500 > > > + - Power Macintosh 7300, 7600, 8500 > > > > Aren't

Re: Supported models

2001-11-01 Thread Chris Tillman
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 12:17:00AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 11:36:25PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 06:55:32PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote: > > > Chris Tillman wrote: > > > > +OldWorld > > > > + - Performa 4400, 54xx, 5500, 6300/160, 6360

Re: Supported models

2001-11-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 11:36:25PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 06:55:32PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote: > > Chris Tillman wrote: > > > +OldWorld > > > + - Performa 4400, 54xx, 5500, 6300/160, 6360, 6400, 6500 > > > + - Power Macintosh 7300, 7600, 8500 > > > > Aren't we

Re: Supported models

2001-11-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 06:55:32PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote: > Chris Tillman wrote: > > +OldWorld > > + - Performa 4400, 54xx, 5500, 6300/160, 6360, 6400, 6500 > > + - Power Macintosh 7300, 7600, 8500 > > Aren't we including the 7200 in here? You should. I've got one sitting right here. proc

Re: Supported models

2001-11-01 Thread Tom Rini
On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 09:07:30PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 06:55:32PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote: > > Chris Tillman wrote: > > > > > > +OldWorld > > > + - Performa 4400, 54xx, 5500, 6300/160, 6360, 6400, 6500 > > > + - Power Macintosh 7300, 7600, 8500 > > > > Aren't

Re: Supported models

2001-11-01 Thread Chris Tillman
On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 06:55:32PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote: > Chris Tillman wrote: > > > > +OldWorld > > + - Performa 4400, 54xx, 5500, 6300/160, 6360, 6400, 6500 > > + - Power Macintosh 7300, 7600, 8500 > > Aren't we including the 7200 in here? > I was hoping somebody would speak up about

Re: Supported models

2001-11-01 Thread Tom Rini
On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 07:03:06PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: > To close bug #57369, I think all we need is a list of powerpc models > supported by Debian. Please add, correct, or otherwise munge: The context above implies there's some documentation already. This list will also need to be chang