Re: 64bit status report : biarch toolchain and ppc64 debian kernel.

2005-08-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 11:21:39AM -0400, Michel D?nzer wrote: > On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 10:02 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > But yes, a. is a major undertaking, and i was hoping of some automated > > method > > for generating the 64 bit stuff, maybe even in the same package. Needs some > > expe

Re: 64bit status report : biarch toolchain and ppc64 debian kernel.

2005-08-19 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 10:02 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > But yes, a. is a major undertaking, and i was hoping of some automated method > for generating the 64 bit stuff, maybe even in the same package. Needs some > experimenting though. Why not just deal with this in an on-demand manner? I.e. us

Re: 64bit status report : biarch toolchain and ppc64 debian kernel.

2005-08-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 10:55:35PM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > On 8/18/05, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That brings us to the next step, what is the best way to get most libraries > > to > > build 64bit packages ? This would need some extensive change in the > > packaging > >

Re: 64bit status report : biarch toolchain and ppc64 debian kernel.

2005-08-18 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 00:58 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > On 8/19/05, Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 22:55 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > > On 8/18/05, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > That brings us to the next step, what is the b

Re: 64bit status report : biarch toolchain and ppc64 debian kernel.

2005-08-18 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 8/19/05, Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 22:55 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > On 8/18/05, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > That brings us to the next step, what is the best way to get most > > > libraries to > > > build 64bit packages

Re: 64bit status report : biarch toolchain and ppc64 debian kernel.

2005-08-18 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 22:55 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > On 8/18/05, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That brings us to the next step, what is the best way to get most libraries > > to > > build 64bit packages ? This would need some extensive change in the > > packaging > > stuff p

Re: 64bit status report : biarch toolchain and ppc64 debian kernel.

2005-08-18 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 8/18/05, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That brings us to the next step, what is the best way to get most libraries to > build 64bit packages ? This would need some extensive change in the packaging > stuff probably. As you know, there are two ways: a. Major hacking for each and eve

Re: 64bit status report : biarch toolchain and ppc64 debian kernel.

2005-08-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 01:45:56PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: > At Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:30:33 +1000, > Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > Yeah, things are not as fast as we hope, but we are a volunteer > > > organisation, > > > so we will see. > > > > > > But if in a month or so NPTL is not yet

Re: 64bit status report : biarch toolchain and ppc64 debian kernel.

2005-08-17 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:30:33 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > Yeah, things are not as fast as we hope, but we are a volunteer > > organisation, > > so we will see. > > > > But if in a month or so NPTL is not yet enabled, we will go and ask them, > > but > > the current way is to make sma

Re: 64bit status report : biarch toolchain and ppc64 debian kernel.

2005-08-17 Thread Thomas Jahns
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 04:30:33PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > You can't cross link. You need 2 sets of libs unfortunately. > > Too bad. This mean rebuilding all libs or most of them for ppc64. Not as bad as it seems. On IRIX which has even t

Re: 64bit status report : biarch toolchain and ppc64 debian kernel.

2005-08-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 04:30:33PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > Yeah, things are not as fast as we hope, but we are a volunteer > > organisation, > > so we will see. > > > > But if in a month or so NPTL is not yet enabled, we will go and ask them, > > but > > the current way is to

Re: 64bit status report : biarch toolchain and ppc64 debian kernel.

2005-08-16 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> Yeah, things are not as fast as we hope, but we are a volunteer organisation, > so we will see. > > But if in a month or so NPTL is not yet enabled, we will go and ask them, but > the current way is to make small incremental steps, i guess. Turning on NPTL is a one liner or such in the package

Re: 64bit status report : biarch toolchain and ppc64 debian kernel.

2005-08-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 09:13:28AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > Oh, and also, we still miss NPTL in the glibc build, but i guess as we are > > moving forward, this will come soon now. > > I've been told that for 2 years... strangely, back then, the problem was > freezing for testing

Re: 64bit status report : biarch toolchain and ppc64 debian kernel.

2005-08-16 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> Oh, and also, we still miss NPTL in the glibc build, but i guess as we are > moving forward, this will come soon now. I've been told that for 2 years... strangely, back then, the problem was freezing for testing. Now we have an up to date glibc, it's still not enabled for _NO_ good reason, and