[OT] .NET (was: Re: JAVA on DebianPPC)

2001-07-20 Thread Bastien Nocera
jtv wrote: > On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 01:08:31PM +0200, David N. Welton wrote: >> This leaves you free to create derivates, but means that you can't pollute >> the standard. >> > > Going by what little I've seen of C#, Eiffel# etc., Microsoft now > seems to have gone this way, calling their

Re: JAVA on DebianPPC

2001-07-20 Thread jtv
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 01:08:31PM +0200, David N. Welton wrote: > > Likewise, you could include a clause like that in the license... "you > may not use the name java blah blah blah unless you pass all our tests > and meet approval and so on and so forth blah blah blah". They did. It's one of t

Re: JAVA on DebianPPC

2001-07-20 Thread David N. Welton
"Jonathan Belson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > From an objective point of view, how could Sun have stopped > Microsoft from distributing their non-standard JDK (ie. produces > non-portable code by default) if they hadn't kept ownership of Java? Simple - like Apache does: You can't make a deriva

Re: JAVA on DebianPPC

2001-07-20 Thread Michael Flaig
EMail from "Lorenzo De Vito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to with message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:59:28 +0200 Lorenzo De Vito wrote: > What's the better way to run Java on DebianPPC ? I've looked for Java 2 on > www.sun.com but I've found

RE: JAVA on DebianPPC

2001-07-20 Thread Jonathan Belson
Hiya > > You can't redistribute it in binary form unless it's been approved > > by Sun, since they want to ensure that distributed versions are > > standards-compliant (and make money in the process - no suprises there). > > > > >From an objective point of view, how could Sun have stopped Micr

RE: JAVA on DebianPPC

2001-07-20 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Jonathan Belson wrote: > > > is this a "political" issue or is there just no maintainer for JAVA > > > packages? > > > > Sun's Java implementation is proprietary software. You can't even > > redistribute it, much less improve it and share it with your friends, > > like you ca

Re: JAVA on DebianPPC

2001-07-20 Thread Bastien Nocera
Colin Walters wrote: is this a "political" issue or is there just no maintainer for JAVA packages? Sun's Java implementation is proprietary software. You can't even redistribute it, much less improve it and share it with your friends, like you can the rest of Debian. That being said though,

RE: JAVA on DebianPPC

2001-07-20 Thread Jonathan Belson
Hiya > > is this a "political" issue or is there just no maintainer for JAVA > > packages? > > Sun's Java implementation is proprietary software. You can't even > redistribute it, much less improve it and share it with your friends, > like you can the rest of Debian. You can't redistribute it

Re: JAVA on DebianPPC

2001-07-20 Thread Colin Walters
> is this a "political" issue or is there just no maintainer for JAVA > packages? Sun's Java implementation is proprietary software. You can't even redistribute it, much less improve it and share it with your friends, like you can the rest of Debian. That being said though, there was some discu

Re: JAVA on DebianPPC

2001-07-20 Thread Colin Walters
"Lorenzo De Vito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What's the better way to run Java on DebianPPC ? I've looked for > Java 2 on www.sun.com but I've found only versions for x86 or Sparc. > There is good compatibility with LinuxPPC Java Version and that &

Re: JAVA on DebianPPC

2001-07-20 Thread Fabian Jakobs
> Anyway go look at www.blackdown.org or any mirror (such as > mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux) for the 1.3.1 java for ppc linux. > There are no debs, but the tarball is fine. Hi, is this a "political" issue or is there just no maintainer for JAVA packages? mfg Fabian -- echo -e '#!/bin/sh

Re: JAVA on DebianPPC

2001-07-20 Thread Steven Hanley
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 05:59:28PM +0200, Lorenzo De Vito wrote: > What's the better way to run Java on DebianPPC ? I've looked for Java 2 on > www.sun.com but I've found only versions for x86 or Sparc. > There is good compatibility with LinuxPPC Java Version and that

JAVA on DebianPPC

2001-07-20 Thread Lorenzo De Vito
What's the better way to run Java on DebianPPC ? I've looked for Java 2 on www.sun.com but I've found only versions for x86 or Sparc. There is good compatibility with LinuxPPC Java Version and that distribuited from Sun? There are debian packages ?