> I've heard people mention on this list that they are running IBM's Java
> package rather than the (elderly) Blackdown one. Unfortunately, I
> cannot for the life of me find a download link for it on IBM's site.
> Could someone please point me in the right direction so that I can get
> this
I'm running the Blackdown 1.3.1 JDK under Debian on my Powerbook, and
I'm noticing some anomalous behavior with a couple of Java apps that I
need for a class. These same apps work fine under the 1.4x Java
installed in the computer labs at the college I work for.
I've heard people mention on th
Franck Routier wrote:
>
> So what ? Are you all telling me you are going to develop a Moz plugin
> for IBM JDK, or that your are going to implement a jit for Blackdown, or
> what
How about a Java3D-based applet that seamlessly extends IE
and Netscape to handle 3D pages as well
Michel Dänzer wrote:
>
> > What is so bad about Java and Flash anyway?
>
> They're not bad per se, but IME they're mostly good for complementary
> stuff and sites which require them are simply broken IMHO
> ('accessibility' comes to mind).
The problem IMO is that these powerful technologies are
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 05:08, Albert D. Cahalan wrote:
> Josh Huber writes:
> > Rick Lutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> Yes, it's a _much_ bigger problem than generally realized.
> >> 1. No Java Plug-in = no Java 2 for browsers
> >> 2. No Java 2 for browsers = no Java 3D for browsers
> >>
me you are going to develop a Moz plugin
for IBM JDK, or that your are going to implement a jit for Blackdown, or
what
If only I had the time. But I do think there is alot of "we don't
have it, so we don't need it" attitude floating around in the
GNU/
re" is not
> going to make such things go away, it is only going to make us look
> more and more irrelevant.
Sure, but the subject was : we've finally got a JVM with JIT under PPC
Linux, and that's nice...
This is not perfect, but great for server side java.
So what ? Are
"Albert D. Cahalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You prefer VBscript and ActiveX controls then? That's what you
> encourage. Java must run everywhere, else we have no argument
> against 100% Microsoft solutions.
Ah, of course I don't. I prefer none of those.
> What is so bad about Java and Fla
Josh Huber writes:
> Rick Lutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Yes, it's a _much_ bigger problem than generally realized.
>> 1. No Java Plug-in = no Java 2 for browsers
>> 2. No Java 2 for browsers = no Java 3D for browsers
>> 3. No Java 3D for browsers = no 3D for the Web
>
> And this is a pro
At 9:44 AM +0900 5/25/02, electric-light-heads wrote:
mmm..then which JDK wil be the best
to do only text oriented io & claculations?
am only planning to use java to do
xml > calc > text > csound > jsyn
If you are not planning to use any of the UI toolkits (Swing/AWT) you
might give gcj a whi
electric-light-heads wrote:
>
> mmm..then which JDK wil be the best
> to do only text oriented io & claculations?
>
> am only planning to use java to do
> xml > calc > text > csound > jsyn
xml = JDK 1.4
More rationale for Java Plug-in
Browsers can't stay stuck at 1.1 forever or we all suffer
(
mmm..then which JDK wil be the best
to do only text oriented io & claculations?
am only planning to use java to do
xml > calc > text > csound > jsyn
> > Yes, it's a _much_ bigger problem than generally realized.
> > 1. No Java Plug-in = no Java 2 for browsers
> > 2. No Java 2 for browsers = no Ja
> And this is a problem why? IMHO, the web is much nicer without java &
> flash.
Amen.
As satisfying as it may be for us to wallow in our "uphill, both
ways, in the snow, img tag the cause of all moral failings"
attitudes, it does occur every now and then in my workaday life that
I must go
like Tomcat, JBoss, Jonas, Netbeans, xalan, xerces,
cocoon, Barracuda,..., then I would recommend you using IBM JDK.
Many thanks to them for making a JIT available on Linux PPC, since it
was long awaited, and was one of the main reasons mac os x was necessary
on a linux ppc box.
Blackdown doesn'
Josh Huber wrote:
>
> Rick Lutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Yes, it's a _much_ bigger problem than generally realized.
> > 1. No Java Plug-in = no Java 2 for browsers
> > 2. No Java 2 for browsers = no Java 3D for browsers
> > 3. No Java 3D for browsers = no 3D for the Web
>
> And this
On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 14:23, Josh Huber wrote:
> Rick Lutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Yes, it's a _much_ bigger problem than generally realized.
> > 1. No Java Plug-in = no Java 2 for browsers
> > 2. No Java 2 for browsers = no Java 3D for browsers
> > 3. No Java 3D for browsers = no 3D
Rick Lutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes, it's a _much_ bigger problem than generally realized.
> 1. No Java Plug-in = no Java 2 for browsers
> 2. No Java 2 for browsers = no Java 3D for browsers
> 3. No Java 3D for browsers = no 3D for the Web
And this is a problem why? IMHO, the web is
Franck Routier wrote:
>
> At 12:06 24.05.2002 +0200, Jeffo wrote:
> >Allready adopted it a month or two ago.
> >Nevertheless, there is a big probleme :
> >NO JAVA PLUGIN.
> >
> >that's a quite big problem for a notebook used for accessing the internet !!
>
> Is it ??
Yes, it's a _much_ bigger pr
At 12:06 PM +0200 5/24/02, Jeffo wrote:
Allready adopted it a month or two ago.
Nevertheless, there is a big probleme :
NO JAVA PLUGIN.
that's a quite big problem for a notebook used for accessing the internet !!
Hey, I've already got two JVMs installed because Tomcat crashes
constantly under
At 12:06 24.05.2002 +0200, Jeffo wrote:
Allready adopted it a month or two ago.
Nevertheless, there is a big probleme :
NO JAVA PLUGIN.
that's a quite big problem for a notebook used for accessing the internet !!
Is it ??
Franck
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Hi,
just to make you Debian people know I had no problem running the latest IBM
JDK 1.3.0 for PPC Linux.
This JDK includes a JVM _WITH_ JIT, and outperformes by far the Blackdown JVM.
The IBM JDK is not free (in the sense of liberté) but is not for sale
either... Well, java is not free
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