On 2008-09-13, Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 09 2008, Stephen Allen wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 07:45:21PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
>> > Congratulation on getting it working! That's great news.
>>
>> Thanks Rick for all your help !
>
> Please, if you put it there, let m
On 2008-09-14, SDA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2008-09-13, Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sep 12 2008, SDA wrote:
>>> Hm. I'm going to pull the Belkin USB 1.0 card I have in another G3
>>> pizza box, and put in this one. I guess we'll see if Xorg handles it
>>> OK. I'll let you
On 2008-09-13, Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 12 2008, SDA wrote:
>> Hm. I'm going to pull the Belkin USB 1.0 card I have in another G3
>> pizza box, and put in this one. I guess we'll see if Xorg handles it
>> OK. I'll let you know how it goes.
>
> Please let us know how the car
On 2008-09-13, Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 12 2008, SDA wrote:
>> Hm. I'm going to pull the Belkin USB 1.0 card I have in another G3
>> pizza box, and put in this one. I guess we'll see if Xorg handles it
>> OK. I'll let you know how it goes.
>
> Please let us know how the car
On 2008-09-13, Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 09 2008, Stephen Allen wrote:
> Please, if you put it there, let me know where it is. The proper way to
> do things would be to merge the proper instructions in the Debian
> installation manual.
Um OK. I could send you the copy in p
On Sep 12 2008, SDA wrote:
> Hm. I'm going to pull the Belkin USB 1.0 card I have in another G3
> pizza box, and put in this one. I guess we'll see if Xorg handles it
> OK. I'll let you know how it goes.
Please let us know how the card works. BTW, you probably would like to
add something like a ne
On Sep 09 2008, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 07:45:21PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
> > Congratulation on getting it working! That's great news.
>
> Thanks Rick for all your help !
Please, if you put it there, let me know where it is. The proper way to
do things would be to merge
On 2008-09-10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/9/10, Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[ ...]
>> Is your card different from stock ?
>>
Hi Risto, please excuse the delay in responding.
> This is of interest for me, too... it reminds me...
>
> My G3 is a desktop model (233 M
2008/9/10, Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 05:16:35PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
>
>> That's good news. I have tried to get xorg and gnome running on my test
>> machine, but it seems that the video chip it has isn't very well
>> supported. I need to open a bug report o
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 05:16:35PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
> That's good news. I have tried to get xorg and gnome running on my test
> machine, but it seems that the video chip it has isn't very well
> supported. I need to open a bug report on the subject.
I have 2 video cards in it. Back
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 07:34:43PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 2008/9/8, Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[ ...]
> The other IDE socket has probably the CD drive (hdc)? Maybe the spare
> drive has been as a slave in its earlier life? In Linux, hda/b are
> master/slave on primary ide bus,
On Sep 9, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Stephen Allen wrote:
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 09:17:55AM +0100, Nicholas Helps wrote:
Hello Stephen (and everyone else),
Howdy Nicholas,
Being polite this time ;-)
Glad the step by step worked. Please make sure you acknowledge
Rick as well, without this help,
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 09:17:55AM +0100, Nicholas Helps wrote:
> Hello Stephen (and everyone else),
Howdy Nicholas,
> Being polite this time ;-)
>
> Glad the step by step worked. Please make sure you acknowledge Rick as well,
> without this help, I would never have gotten my install working
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On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:32 PM, Stephen Allen wrote:
I thought getting XOrg running would be tricky (don't have much
experience with window
managers as I usually run headless with a console) but it was
pretty easy to get it
configured. I just had to run 'dpkg-reconfigure Xorg' make some
altera
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 07:45:21PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
> Congratulation on getting it working! That's great news.
Thanks Rick for all your help !
> I have a couple of things to add to Nicholas' SxS that will help
> first-timers get it "right the first time".
Good idea ! The only one th
On Sep 8, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Stephen Allen wrote:
Nicolas, do you mind if I add these instructions to the Debian
Wiki ? I'll
be sure to give full attribution.
Congratulation on getting it working! That's great news.
I have a couple of things to add to Nicholas' SxS that will help
first-
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 10:41:09AM +0100, Nicholas Helps wrote:
> Hello Stephen / all,
Hi Nicholas:
> So, here is the way I got it to work
[ ...]
Excellent instructions, thanks very much Nicholas ! I'm writing this from
my G3 Beige booted into Lenny-Debian using mutt. :) I'm a happy camper
2008/9/8, Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> It's been a long time since I ever used this in production. I recall that
> there had been a scsi hard drive
> in this box, and I had removed the stock IDE hard drive shortly after
> purchasing. When I pulled this out
> of storage in my basement seve
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 09:29:21AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 2008/9/7, Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > OK kept the MacOS partition(s). There are 7 of em put there by the MacOS 9
> > disk utility (6 small ones).
> >
> In Apple's partitioning, the 1st partition contains the partiti
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 12:30:42AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
> Stephen,
>
> You are so close, I can almost taste it all the way up here in New
> Jersey!
Yeah we're pretty close. LOL
> It's too late tonite, but Monday or Tuesday, unless you succeed before
> then, I'll put a spare disk in one of
Hello Stephen / all,
Here is a post I put on some time ago about this (Stephen, this is the post I
mentioned). There is a preamble and then the step by step that worked for me. I
have added a little bit about the space you will leave for Debian on your HD.
This was not in the original post. Yo
2008/9/7, Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> OK kept the MacOS partition(s). There are 7 of em put there by the MacOS 9
> disk utility (6 small ones).
>
In Apple's partitioning, the 1st partition contains the partition map,
then there are typically 5 driver partitions used by Mac OS, and then
t
Stephen,
You are so close, I can almost taste it all the way up here in New
Jersey!
It's too late tonite, but Monday or Tuesday, unless you succeed
before then, I'll put a spare disk in one of my Beige G3s and walk
myself thru the steps, writing down each step as I do it. If that
doesn
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 10:42:36AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 2008/9/7, Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > The install is where I had the issue(s), of going through the steps and
> > hanging when it came to installing
> > the quik bootloader. I don't understand why it's install quick
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 10:42:36AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 2008/9/7, Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[ ...]
> > In terms of the disk partioning. Is the MacOS partition supposed to be
> > overwritten and that's why the
> > installer wants to install Quik ? I can't seem to find an opt
2008/9/7, Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> The install is where I had the issue(s), of going through the steps and
> hanging when it came to installing
> the quik bootloader. I don't understand why it's install quick as I thought
> that BootX would be used.
>
You should try to skip the quik i
--- On Sat, 9/6/08, Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In terms of the disk partioning. Is the MacOS partition
> supposed to be overwritten and that's why the
> installer wants to install Quik ? I can't seem to find
> an option to toggle Quik off.
>
> --
>
I believe it is possibl
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 12:04:09AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 2008/9/6, James Kozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > hi
> > reading this email again makes me wonder if this step has been omitted:
> >
> > Insert the PPC install disk and navigate to the /install/powerpc folder.
> > Copy vmlinux (the
2008/9/6, James Kozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> hi
> reading this email again makes me wonder if this step has been omitted:
>
> Insert the PPC install disk and navigate to the /install/powerpc folder.
> Copy vmlinux (the linux kernel) to "System Folder/Linux Kernels". Copy
> initrd.gz (the init ramd
hi
reading this email again makes me wonder if this step has been omitted:
Insert the PPC install disk and navigate to the /install/powerpc folder.
Copy vmlinux (the linux kernel) to "System Folder/Linux Kernels". Copy
initrd.gz (the init ramdisk image) to "System Folder" and rename it to
ramdisk
2008/9/4, Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> (4) Run BootX application (alternatively install BootX extension, and
>> reboot).
>
> OK I did this, got a shell and then a kernel panic, and a reboot message for
> 3 minutes.
> Probably because of the kernel being in the wrong place eh ?
>
I don't
On Sep 3, 2008, at 10:32 PM, Stephen Allen wrote:
Thanks Rick, I'll take a look. It is indeed somewhat fun.
My wife thinks I'm nuts, but I agree -- it's fun getting old obscure
hardware to do new tricks!
Rick
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On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 12:32:43AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
Hi Risto:
> In your place, I would take the following route:
>
> In OS 9:
>
> (1) download BootX from
> http://penguinppc.org/historical/benh/BootX_1.2.2.sit, and install it,
>
> (2) download Debian kernel and in
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 05:12:27PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
> Stephen,
>
> I used to do quite a lot of this kind of stuff.
>
> Search the debian-powerpc and debian-boot archives for my name
> ("rbthomas") and "Boot-X". I posted (about Sarge timeframe) several
> "how-to" articles on using MacO
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 09:54:21PM +0200, Simon Vallet wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
Hey Simon, thanks for the help.
> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 12:22:01 +
> Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ ...]
> > I don't have a Linux workstation available to make boot floppies; Can these
> > boot floppies b
Hi Stephen,
In your place, I would take the following route:
In OS 9:
(1) download BootX from
http://penguinppc.org/historical/benh/BootX_1.2.2.sit, and install it,
(2) download Debian kernel and initrd from
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerp
Stephen,
I used to do quite a lot of this kind of stuff.
Search the debian-powerpc and debian-boot archives for my name
("rbthomas") and "Boot-X". I posted (about Sarge timeframe) several
"how-to" articles on using MacOS-9 and Boot-X to install Debian on a
beige-G3-tower. It does not req
Hi Stephen,
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 12:22:01 +
Stephen Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would appreciate if the experts here could help me out -- Here's what I've
> tried so far;
>
> Using the Debian-Etch-PPC net install CD, I booted up with my MacOS 9
> CD. However when booted with
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 08:28:38PM +0200, Jos? JORGE wrote:
> A Wednesday 3 September 2008 14:22:01, Stephen Allen escreveu:
> > I've searched for an install 'how-to' and settled on the "G3-Beige" how to
> > on the Debian Wiki. There is a lot of conflicting advice on installing on
> > these old wor
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 11:54:47AM -0700, Brad Boyer wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 08:28:38PM +0200, Jos? JORGE wrote:
> > As far as I know, G3 is not oldworld.
>
> The earliest G3 systems were oldworld. In particular, the beige PowerMac G3
> desktop systems and the first few models of PowerB
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 08:28:38PM +0200, José JORGE wrote:
> A Wednesday 3 September 2008 14:22:01, Stephen Allen escreveu:
> > I've searched for an install 'how-to' and settled on the "G3-Beige" how to
> > on the Debian Wiki. There is a lot of conflicting advice on installing on
> > these old wor
A Wednesday 3 September 2008 14:22:01, Stephen Allen escreveu:
> I've searched for an install 'how-to' and settled on the "G3-Beige" how to
> on the Debian Wiki. There is a lot of conflicting advice on installing on
> these old world machines in the wild, and it's quite confusing. Some say
> not to
Greetings:
I've been attempting to get Debian-PPC installed on this machine for several
days now, without much luck.
I've searched for an install 'how-to' and settled on the "G3-Beige" how to on
the Debian Wiki. There is a
lot of conflicting advice on installing on these old world machines in
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