Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-07 Thread Javier Blanque
You can boot from a Darwin CD and install it on an OldWorld system with the help of XPostFacto from Ryan Rempel at http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/. Even with its help, it could may be not an easy job to install into a 7500 system (some stories at the xpostfacto forum). To install on

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-07 Thread Derrik Pates
Scott Henson wrote: I work for the csee department here and we have tons of hardware laying around including some old powermac 7500 and a quadra something or another. Im pretty sure we have some hardware laying around somewhere that will have hardware that is supported by X86 darwin, otherwise I

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-04 Thread Brad Boyer
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 03:16:06PM -0400, Scott Henson wrote: > otherwise I think Im going to try to install on the powermac or > quadra(no clue what this is) but I hear that installing on oldworld > powermacs is a bitch and I would rather do it on the plentiful x86 > hardware we have here. The Ma

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-04 Thread Scott Henson
Derrik Pates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Scott Henson wrote: >> I think Im going to have to find a spare box to install Darwin on. >> Unfortunately its going to be an x86 box because my ibook doesn't have >> the hard drive space for a Darwin install. > > You mean you have an x86 box with one of

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-04 Thread Derrik Pates
Luca Bigliardi - shammash wrote: this guy has booted opendarwin with vmware, but it has troubles with the network interface: My workstation at the office has VMware 4.5 installed on it - I've tried Darwin (and OpenDarwin) in 4.0 and 4.5 versions. In 4.0.x, it caused the virtualization process

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-04 Thread hu gang
At Wed, 4 Aug 2004 11:46:43 +0200, Luca Bigliardi - shammash wrote: > > To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System" > From: Luca Bigliardi - shammash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 11:46:43 +0200 > Message

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-04 Thread Luca Bigliardi - shammash
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 12:41 AM, Derrik Pates wrote: > making virtualization solutions like VMware not work. this guy has booted opendarwin with vmware, but it has troubles with the network interface: http://www.opendarwin.org/pipermail/hackers/2004-July/004491.html you can find the list of s

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-03 Thread Derrik Pates
Scott Henson wrote: I think Im going to have to find a spare box to install Darwin on. Unfortunately its going to be an x86 box because my ibook doesn't have the hard drive space for a Darwin install. You mean you have an x86 box with one of the two IDE controllers or the one or two SCSI con

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-03 Thread Scott Henson
David Schleef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 02:01:43PM -0400, Scott Henson wrote: >> Geert Uytterhoeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > >> > You really need to prefix these at build time. >> > >> >> No I don't think you need a prefix. > > gromit:~$ grep -l '/usr' /usr

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-03 Thread Rogério Brito
On Aug 02 2004, David Schleef wrote: > (btw, I think a Darwin port would be cool. I'm tired of fixing > Fink's brokenness.) I agree. Using Fink is a royal pain in the ass when you already know how Debian works. There are many problems with Fink, IMO. First of all, you have all those packages tha

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-02 Thread David Schleef
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 02:01:43PM -0400, Scott Henson wrote: > Geert Uytterhoeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > You really need to prefix these at build time. > > > > No I don't think you need a prefix. gromit:~$ grep -l '/usr' /usr/bin/*|wc -l 1055 gromit:~$ How do those get fixed-up?

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-02 Thread Scott Henson
Geert Uytterhoeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Scott Henson wrote: >> There is of course the problem of packages possibly not knowing about >> the --root switch and they would still look for their conf files under >> /etc, but that may also be a bug and there may be some way o

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-02 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Scott Henson wrote: > Geert Uytterhoeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Scott Henson wrote: > >> MacOS are mutually exclusive. Check out the --root options to dpkg. > >> I would think once one has Debian on Darwin one could easily port use > >> the same bin

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-02 Thread Scott Henson
Geert Uytterhoeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Scott Henson wrote: >> MacOS are mutually exclusive. Check out the --root options to dpkg. >> I would think once one has Debian on Darwin one could easily port use >> the same binaries on MacOS and even use debootstrap to build

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-02 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Scott Henson wrote: > MacOS are mutually exclusive. Check out the --root options to dpkg. > I would think once one has Debian on Darwin one could easily port use > the same binaries on MacOS and even use debootstrap to build the > initial Debian install inside of /sw or whereve

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-02 Thread Scott Henson
Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:21:59AM -0400, Scott Henson wrote: > } Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > } > } > On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 10:59:07PM +, Alexander Solla wrote: > } > I wouldn't be quite automatic. Among other things, I would w

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-02 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:21:59AM -0400, Scott Henson wrote: } Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: } } > On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 10:59:07PM +, Alexander Solla wrote: } > I wouldn't be quite automatic. Among other things, I would want } > Debian-managed software to be outside the main

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-02 Thread Scott Henson
Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 10:59:07PM +, Alexander Solla wrote: > I wouldn't be quite automatic. Among other things, I would want > Debian-managed software to be outside the main tree (i.e. in /usr/local > or, better, in /sw or the like). I also would

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-02 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Gregory Seidman wrote: > On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 10:59:07PM +, Alexander Solla wrote: > } On Sunday 01 August 2004 07:13 pm, Gregory Seidman wrote: > } eat if Debian chose to begin supporting > } > } > I can't see Debian supporting MacOS X directly, since I believe there is

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-02 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 10:59:07PM +, Alexander Solla wrote: } On Sunday 01 August 2004 07:13 pm, Gregory Seidman wrote: } eat if Debian chose to begin supporting } } > I can't see Debian supporting MacOS X directly, since I believe there is } > some bad blood between Apple and Debian. Darwin,

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-02 Thread Alexander Solla
On Sunday 01 August 2004 07:13 pm, Gregory Seidman wrote: eat if Debian chose to begin supporting > > I can't see Debian supporting MacOS X directly, since I believe there is > some bad blood between Apple and Debian. Darwin, however, is a > reasonable BSD to support, and any work done there could

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-01 Thread Gregory Seidman
ebian GNU/Linux PowerPC PowerMac Page } > > (http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/pmac) the second } > > paragraph closes by mentioning that "Shortly, you may also have } > > the option of running Debian within a Darwin system." What } > > exactly does that statement me

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-01 Thread Michel Dänzer
/Linux PowerPC PowerMac Page > > > (http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/pmac) the second paragraph > > > closes by mentioning that "Shortly, you may also have the option of > > > running Debian within a Darwin system." What exactly does that statement

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-08-01 Thread jesi
t/pmac) the second paragraph closes > > by mentioning that "Shortly, you may also have the option of running Debian > > within a Darwin system." What exactly does that statement mean, and when > > is shortly? Thank you for your help. I think this is connected

Re: "Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-07-28 Thread Scott Henson
e the option of running Debian > within a Darwin system." What exactly does that statement mean, and when is > shortly? Thank you for your help. I believe that means there are several ongoing efforts within Debian to port Debian GNU to other kernels. I know of the kNetBSD and kFreeBSD p

"Debian Within a Darwin System"

2004-07-27 Thread Michael
On the Debian GNU/Linux PowerPC PowerMac Page (http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/pmac) the second paragraph closes by mentioning that "Shortly, you may also have the option of running Debian within a Darwin system." What exactly does that statement mean, and when is shortly?