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once I have enough success
reports for enough differing machines, very new machines are most
important, as they are the ones which old ofpath failed on.
Thanks in advance, and thanks to Nick Lopez for granting me local
shell access to his machine so I could get this done.
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followed by
,/bsd which should be the kernel. im not sure how a bsd disklabel
inside a normal partition is handled, OF won't have a real path to
such a bsd slice in that manner. perhaps bsd makes up thier own fake
one or something, i don't know. you can put your own OF path after
bsd= and ybin will use that as is.
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On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 03:47:44PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
>
> The worse that can happen is the GENERIC_RTC driver not being
> initialized because linux believes the RTC driver should be ok.
which breaks hwclock, not acceptable.
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>
> Friendly,
>
> Sven Luther
>
> ** Sent via the linuxppc-dev mail list. See http://lists.linuxppc.org/
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with: hwclock: /dev/rtc: No such device
but i could be missing something obvious with your suggestion.
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On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 02:59:35PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 12:03:01AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
> > > You don't look at the bogus /proc/scsi stuff for that, do you?
> >
> > in current ofpath yes, changing this requires significant
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 12:40:24PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 01:24:46AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
> >
> > Yaboot 1.3.11 is now available.
> >
> > This release adds support for the new PowerMac G5 machines, and the
> > aluminum P
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to test, so if you just want to test
something please wait for development releases of yaboot 1.99, for the
moment there is nothing you can do.
Thanks.
(I am not subscribed to debian-powerpc, and replies to this shouldn't
go there anyway as its not really on topic).
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lacks proper yaboot.
this should be a great help to those wanting to install debian without
all the hackish bullsh*t thats been required.
enjoy.
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 12:41:16AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have built an updated set of XFS enabled Debian boo
ebian-README.txt for
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; > that's your device, right ?
> >
> > > pwd shows I'm on the
> > > pci bus:
> > > /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL
> > > PROTECTED],0
> >
> > and that's the full path... i don't get
yaboot 1.99, for the
moment there is nothing you can do.
Thanks.
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available at the usual place:
http://penguinppc.org/projects/yaboot/testing/1.3.7-pre/
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to stay at
> > known snapshots.
>
> I do, so I'd appreciate if you could make the patch available. I looked
> through your files section but couldn't find it.
>
the exact set of patches i apply to my 2.4.19 kernels is now in my
files section (xfs-2.4.19)
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there a couple weeks later, it reappeared sometimes in the 2.4.19-pre
stages in XFS CVS (definitly including -rc2 through final 2.4.19 split
patches) its currently fixed in CVS, or i have the standalone patch
against 2.4.19+split patches if your like my and prefer to stay at
known snapshots
On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 12:57:01PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2002-08-11 at 09:11, Ethan Benson wrote:
> >
> > I have updated my XFS enabled set of boot-floppies to use the final
> > 2.4.19 kernel along with a patch to fix a small file corruption bug in
>
stall XFS on an oldworld, but
at least the installer will boot, unlike the official debian images.
http://penguinppc.org/~eb/files/XFS-debian-README.txt
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> wolf:/#
>
> It fails and tells me that I don't have kernel support for it. Right
> after I compiled it in.
cat /proc/filesystems to see if you really compiled it in.
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>
> I'll do it soon.
wait for 1.3.6, it will work with zimage.initrd, and if the IBM people
start cooperating it will support IBM CHRP agian.
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10 minutes, the slogan was
`Reboot Different'
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4/1.3.5 but there could be more.
> Erm, right. And if we didn't properly 'shut down' OpenFirmware and it
> had something open, that could cause a bad interaction.
suppose its possible, that would be the kernel's fault in puke^H^H^Hrom.c
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see how it could be anything but a linux bug, OpenFirmware
does not survive linux booting.
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release...
>
> also if you are wondering about my html credentials you can go to my
> employers web site http://www.not-taxed.com (note: i mostly only did the
> pages with the generator name of sloopy...)
how about get started on a prototype of what you want to setup, and
then we will see.
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its possible, but not something you want to do, you will almost
certainly end up destroying everything.
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ter.
> I tried it either way. I also passed it on the boot: prompt.
> Seems to have no effect on what's going on:
>
> ERASE timeout on NVRAM
> DO-QUIESCE finishedbooting...
benh had the same thing, you need 2.4.
wait for a bit until i can figure out a way to create 2.
\/)
however newwer machines don't seem to have this as its own button,
instead its triggered via command power, but im not sure that works
under linux, or if its even low level enough anymore.
imacs have it hidden away in a pinhole next to the reboot (aka MacOS)
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needing an 800k boot
> partition of the right type before being dropped to pdisk; I'm glad I
> read the online instructions first, because just the installer screens
> would have baffled me.
woody boot-floppies do all of this. and mac-fdisk has command -- b --
for properly cr
's why the docs are
> important, they point you to what might or might not work and different ways
> to do things if something doesn't quite pan out.
and potato barly supports powerpc by todays standards.
unfortunatly were stuck with potato as the stable dist for ano
rtition table from
> with OF, for example?
you can pretty thoroughly destroy many components of your hardware by
mucking around OpenFirmware, something i don't recommend.
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> > initrd=images-1.44/root.bin
> > initrd-size=8192
>
> You also want a root argument here.
on 2.2 its not necessary, 2.4 seems to need /dev/ram or /dev/ram0
> Also, just on a hunch, could you move the append="video=ofonly"
> inside t
omma, etcI'll look
> into it this week.
definitly your kernel was broken. boot-floppies REQUIRE a kernel with
CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES=n
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partition tables were free of any driver cruft, only pure linux
partitions and an Apple_Bootstrap. when setting it up i intentionally
tried writing a few new tables just to see, could never reproduce it
again.
perhaps all that cruft has something to do with it? though i don't see ho
On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 10:26:43AM -0700, Derrik Pates wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2001, Ethan Benson wrote:
>
> > 2.*.* kernels are affected. and this always happens AFTER the new
> > partition table is already completly synced to disk, once you reboot
> > your partition tab
ading the partition table you have to find an alternate method of
booting, such as CDROM or tftp.
it would be nice if someone who knows the kernel internals could look
for this bug and fix it. *cough* benh *hint* *cough*
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Anyway...
wrong. potato's make bootable step is BOGUS. it did NOTHING of any
use for a newworld system.
> I always get one of two types of error. Either "cannot open partition"
> or "invalid command"
rtfm it explains how to make potato bootable. or better rein
nppc and is getting more picky
about not carrying things which are the vendor's responsibility to document.
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On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 10:33:22PM -0800, Laurent de Segur wrote:
> Fuck off Ethan. OK?
No thank you.
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your talking about.
> > From: Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 19:18:30 -0900
> > To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: Problem cat'ing in terminal: buffer overflow?
> > Resent-From: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
> >
there will never be bootable potato CDs again.
use woody not potato.
and no desktop files don't have anything to do with bootability, they
are just cruft.
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ng the output (which is ok in case of non-ascii chars),
> but when it's done, the label before the prompt sign and everything typed is
> just garbage too. I run 2.4.15 but I've seen this on prior 2.4.x builts.
you have obviously never used a unix system before.
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not used macos since 8.6.
perhaps apple is taking a more aggressive approach to destroying
unauthorized GNU installations on thier hardware.
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ngle user" mode or even
> "init=/bin/sh/"?
not really. the best you can do is hold down the shift key which
disables loading of kludge modules. macos isn't very functional
without a large set of kludge modules to reduce stability and create
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he debian-cd folks that potato CDs
are made with an older version of debian-cd. current cvs is only
workable with woody's yaboot.
potato r4 CDs are not bootable.
i say fuck it, use woody, potato is too old and broken for powerpc.
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work. Good luck, as this is an old
> machine and the open firmware is not good enough to support a
> reliable quik solution on most machines. I've had better luck
> sticking with the bootx solution, but it is not always an option for
> some people for a variety of reasons.
quik w
pple_Driver crap belongs to the CruftOS, not OF.
blaming OF for those is an insult to OF.
> Now, I have a new ibook, but nothing is working on it. And I do nearly
> know nothing about powerpc hardware. - So please help.
> references to documentation would also be fine.
penguinppc.org/proje
to
> install is just a plain nightmare.
well there is not a damn thing we can do about it, util-linux is being
stopped from entering woody for some reason.
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ode of the the bootstrap partition
> they mean /boot ?
no. rtfm.
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installed and
> util-linux-locales 2.11l-3 gives status install ok unpacked.
>
> So far Ethan Benson wrote in a follow-up that the fixed version is yet
> uploaded and should be available probably on friday last week.
the fixed version has been in sid for nearly a week now.
> So I w
thing like
> make config
> make menuconfig
> make xconfig (not for 2.4.x at the moment)
> from within the sources directory.
what does this have to do with yaboot.conf
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ainboard, but attention G4s have also a button on the mainboard and
> Apple warns not to press this button longer than 1 second or you can
> damage your mac (think this is the way a G4 enters
> firmware-download-mode or something like that)
G4s don't have CUDA.
in my case i had to
On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 05:33:18AM -0500, Joseph Fannin wrote:
>
> I could save everyone some trouble by learning to use the reply-all
> button, I guess. I don't like reply-to munging at all, but I suppose I've
> gotten used to it.
no use list-reply not reply-all.
r you can load kernels without a config file
entry, or even any config file at all.
run `help' in yaboot for info on how to do this. (1.3.4 or later).
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ldd on these files.
>
>
> ldd -d -r -v /usr/bin/X11/startx
> not a dynamic executable
>
startx is a shell script, and its not the source of your error, startx
is running fine, its encountering errors when i tries to excecute
/bin/xauth and /bin/xinit which you can clearly see i
changed it again, because on this blue g3 you can remove
the battery and pull the plug all you want and nvram settings stay
intact indefinitly. i discovered this when i severly screwed up the
OF configuration making the machine (very) unbootable.
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hare/perl5/Debian/Defoma/IdCache.pm line 303) thousands of times.
> > Doing the reconfigure works fine though.
>
> 0.6.0 is now in woody, this bug is fixed.
unfortunatly upgrading to that version triggers the bug 3 times out of 4.
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someone would like to maintain a relativly distro
independent hardware list on penguinppc let me know for an account. i
don't think the current lists have anyone really doing much maintainence.
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On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 01:03:44PM +0100, sisi wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 10:45:02PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 09:51:49PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> > >
> > > When I found that a few months ago, dan explained that the doubled let
tion is what is preferred at
this point. the penguinppc hardware page should only talk about the
kernel, distribution specific support should be up the vendor to
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ell i think nvram settings are stored in flash on newworlds, so it
doesn't need a battery to maintain, but the RTC still does.
apparently apple doesn't care about the clock.
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On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 09:51:49PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
>
> When I found that a few months ago, dan explained that the doubled letters
> were supposed to come out bold.
u, since when could you have bold and other such attributes in
plain ascii text?
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nstead, iirc it was something more sensible like `check
for the actual part you need, rather then just assuming certain models
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which Debian does not yet contain support for.
>
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> according to the TAU info in /proc/cpuinfo.
>
> It's a great server -- small, quiet, and very stylish.
very interesting, would you like you write a small mini-howto for
penguinppc.org?
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to talk to
debian-www about that, getting debian pages updated seems to have been
a somewhat slow process at the very least, which is one major reason
why i don't think we should bother trying to keep such a hardware list
there. besides the fact that a distro indepenent one is probably
possib
mem=1536M"
you don't need the mem arg.
> So where's the other half of my RAM? On a side note, is it really true
> that swapfiles can only be 2GB? And does that 'idebus=66' do anything
> except satisfy my more compulsive urges?
swap files are more limited
ourse supposed to be broken.
my bet is on 2.4.14 being the last Linus 2.4, but my bets are capped
at a nickel.
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the main tree).
do you send them or does paulus? i haven't seen your name in any of
linus' changelogs in quite some time, but paul has been getting stuff
merged quite regularly (though nothing much since .10).
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;tested'
> column).
because that comes from boot-floppies, and boot-floppies are updated
very rarly.
thats from potato boot-floppies even, which are only given absolutly
essential bug fixes for the exceedingly rare updates.
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ppc.org has been running pure Linus since 2.4.8, its currently
on 2.4.12 with no problems whatsoever, and its a newworld G4, with
oldworld your definitly fine with Linus.
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difference is you need it once a week on reiserfs,
thats rather inconvenient.
> Cheers (and let me know if $OTHERFS craps out just as badly)
its been quite some time now and he has had no problems, niether have i.
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On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 11:31:40PM -0500, Joseph Fannin wrote:
> So I bootable CD for oldworld machines isn't possible, eh? S'funny, I
> have one right here.
rtfla.
it requires proprietary software and expensive distribution licences.
unacceptable for debian, period.
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 09:02:32PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> potato has the same kernel if I'm not mistaken.
correct, its the exact same source, only difference is woody has one
with a few different config options, none remotly relevant to booting.
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nd will
read it, the problem is the boot-floppies will be unable to read the
drivers.tgz and rescue.bin files which are required to install the
kernel and drivers.
> I noticed your command said hd:,yaboot -- I think you need a partition
> number in there like hd:16,yaboot (well that's wh
book2 to me i can't be sure what the
deal is, all i know is a report from benh that he simply could not get
debian's 2.2.19 to boot his ibook2 period, and i am pretty sure he
hacked around on it for awhile.
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t; copying OF device tree...done
> Calling quiesce ...
>
> DO-QUIESCE finishedbooting...
>
> and hangs.
is this an ibook2 (the ibook that doesn't look like a toilet seat)?
benh reported that 2.2 does this on these machines, and 2.2 isn't
exactly supported on any of apple&
know what version you are really running, and
what date it came from, -benh0 means nothing as it never ever changes,
the only useful version number there is for benh trees is the current
date (and even time in some cases).
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r G3 has an ugly beige case you won't be able to make it
boot, but if it has a funky blue translucent case then' or `if
your iBook looks like a toilet seat then its fine, otherwise you may
need to replace the boot-floppies kernel.'
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se after woody, in 2043.
so from that perpective a static text that goes with the static kernel
debian's stable boot-floppies release uses might be a good thing.
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t; > + - Power Macintosh 7300, 7600, 8500
> >
> > Aren't we including the 7200 in here?
> >
>
> I was hoping somebody would speak up about it - according to the NetBSD
> docs, it has a 601 and they don't support it. Maybe that's out of date.
a friend
;
> I think that's called a bug ;)
>
> You *did* say it was MockOS, didn't you?
yes, which does support sleep far better then linux does.
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On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 11:46:50PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
> Hopefully woody will be released soon...
if you consider 2014 `soon' then it will.
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is no big deal. I
no they don't, my 540c did not, and it had a mechenism where when the
lid is closed it went to sleep, but when it awoke for whatever reason
it usually stayed awake and became very hot.
so its up to you, convenience and risk of destruction and meltdown, or
shutting it down a
ually crashed.
this was under MacOS, as this was before my conversion to *nix,
besides the fact that the 540c seems is completly immune to all forms
of *nix assimilation.
my point is that putting a laptop to sleep instead of shutting it down
entirely when transporting it is not a good idea IMO a
;
> Thanks,
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Debian reiserfsprogs have the endianness
> patches applied. xfsprogs work fine, and ext3 is probably the easiest
> anyway.
debian reiserfsprogs not only do not have the endianess patches, the
source package is set to arch i386 so its never even built for powerpc.
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x, macos has the same trouble,
apparently its due a firmware bug which apple is busy ignoring. (go
search through some macos specific discussion groups).
> > The clock program works fine.
>
> It's still deprecated. If there are problems with the /dev/rtc driver,
> they need
ly not hwclock but a firmware bug which also affects MacOS.
this bug should be marked wontfix and closed.
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On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 12:44:01PM +0100, raphaello wrote:
> Where can I find a version of Emacs for MacOS 9 ?
install a ssh client and ssh to a unix box with emacs installed.
or better yet erase MacOS and install Debian.
iow i seriously doubt such a thing exists.
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h
> These are obviously very damaging type crashes. Let me know what steps I can
> take to narrow down this problem further.
I would have to say broken hardware, but then we are talking oldworlds
so thats redundant
seriously if i had to guess i would say ram, or perhaps your disk is
faulty and
stion from
testing to stable is not entirely clear.. since there seems to be no
real, enforced freeze packages keep going into woody, woody keeps
getting broken and more packages then go into woody and so on.
with the current freeze proceedure i expect woody to become stable
around 2014.
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