browser

2007-09-19 Thread Albert Cahalan
These PowerPC machines are getting rather weak by modern standards. What do we do for a browser? My 512 MB G4 is now worse than my old 64 MB Pentium-133 which ran Netscape. I just got rid of all my firefox plug-ins, and it's still agonizingly slow. I'm slightly tempted to upgrade to see if the pro

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 5/29/07, Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Albert Cahalan writes: > Running a 32-bit userspace on a 64-bit kernel is > however gross, foul, bad, nasty, and wrong. Rubbish. It makes a lot of sense for most userspace programs to be 32-bit on a 64-bit PowerPC system. Unle

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel

2007-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 5/20/07, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 04:46:04PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Out of the 140 packages using ./configure, 30 used ppc64, but only one > faild to build for this reason. These .configure thingies, are they using the gnu autoconf stuff, and i

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 5/28/07, Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le Mon, May 28, 2007 at 07:52:42PM -0400, Albert Cahalan a écrit : > > 1. you actually ARE cross compiling > 2. you didn't tell the package that (via make arguments, etc.) Hi, does it mean that there is something broken

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 5/20/07, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 04:46:04PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Out of the 140 packages using ./configure, 30 used ppc64, but only one > faild to build for this reason. These .configure thingies, are they using the gnu autoconf stuff, and i

Re: all ppc packages need rebuilding with gcc 4.1.1ds2-30

2007-01-07 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 1/7/07, Simon Valiquette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also, even Matthias Klose (Debian maintainer for GCC) did mark the package priority as low. The package priority is shared with x86 and x86-64. As architectures go, powerpc is probably a distant third in importance. The priority really

Re: all ppc packages need rebuilding with gcc 4.1.1ds2-30

2007-01-06 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 1/6/07, Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 6 Jan 2007, Albert Cahalan wrote: > Bugs 382741 and 382748 in gcc just got fixed > in the gcc 4.1.1ds2-30 package. > > Rebuilding all packages is the next step to making > ppc secure. From the bug report: > Af

all ppc packages need rebuilding with gcc 4.1.1ds2-30

2007-01-06 Thread Albert Cahalan
Bugs 382741 and 382748 in gcc just got fixed in the gcc 4.1.1ds2-30 package. Rebuilding all packages is the next step to making ppc secure. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: boost binaries are missing on powerpc, mips, mipsel and m68k (was Re: ICU transition status)

2006-10-13 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 10/13/06, Domenico Andreoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 01:25:37PM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote: > > If my analysis/understanding is correct, icu, xerces27, boost, and > parrot will need to be hinted into etch together but this is not yet > possible because boost and parr

Re: [PATCH] no-execute -- please test

2006-08-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 8/14/06, Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Albert Cahalan writes: > This kernel patch implements no-execute protection (like x86 "NX bit") > for the Mac G2, Mac G3, Mac G4, and other systems running 32-bit > PowerPC processors in the 6xx, 7xx, and 7xxx famili

Re: [PATCH] no-execute -- please test

2006-08-18 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 8/14/06, Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The diff between the log files doesn't show any explanation as to why it works in one case but doesn't in the other, maybe the difference really lies on the client side? You're right. Somehow I hadn't spotted this in my syslog: fuckup @ 100

Re: PowerPC paxtest results w/ gcc-4.1

2006-08-16 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 8/16/06, Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gabriel Paubert writes: > BTW, there is one way to make pages non executable: mark > them as guarded, but it will have a significant cost in > terms of performance. Indeed. I guess we could do that as a config option for machines that rea

Re: [PATCH] no-execute -- please test

2006-08-14 Thread Albert Cahalan
The module failing is not actually the problem. I get GLcore failing with a numeric error message (grrr... like an original Mac or Amiga, or LILO) even when things work OK. Messages from the failing situation: # cat Xorg.0.log.old | egrep 'EE|WW|!!|[abcdf-zA-Z]GL|gl|Gl|GL[a-zA-Z]|Chipset' Curren

Re: [PATCH] no-execute -- please test

2006-08-14 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 8/14/06, Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 2006-08-13 at 23:20 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > If you want heap protection, change VM_DATA_DEFAULT_FLAGS32 > in include/asm-powerpc/page.h to be like VM_STACK_DEFAULT_FLAGS. > I'd love to hear if anybody

Re: [PATCH] no-execute -- please test

2006-08-13 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 8/14/06, Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Albert Cahalan writes: > This kernel patch implements no-execute protection (like x86 "NX bit") > for the Mac G2, Mac G3, Mac G4, and other systems running 32-bit > PowerPC processors in the 6xx, 7xx, and 7xxx famili

Re: [PATCH] no-execute -- please test

2006-08-13 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 8/14/06, Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Albert Cahalan writes: > If you want heap protection, change VM_DATA_DEFAULT_FLAGS32 > in include/asm-powerpc/page.h to be like VM_STACK_DEFAULT_FLAGS. > I'd love to hear if anybody can get X to start with this change.

[PATCH] no-execute -- please test

2006-08-13 Thread Albert Cahalan
This kernel patch implements no-execute protection (like x86 "NX bit") for the Mac G2, Mac G3, Mac G4, and other systems running 32-bit PowerPC processors in the 6xx, 7xx, and 7xxx families. As given, it usually protects from executing code on the stack. This has to do with the typical buffer ove

Re: PowerPC paxtest results w/ gcc-4.1

2006-08-13 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 8/13/06, Hollis Blanchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 2006-08-13 at 00:11 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > On 8/12/06, Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Albert Cahalan writes: > > > > > VM_STACK_DEFAULT_FLAGS32 is wrong. A fail-safe

Re: PowerPC paxtest results w/ gcc-4.1

2006-08-13 Thread Albert Cahalan
events execution from the stack. It passes that one part of paxtest now. If the -msecure-plt actually did something (it's a nop according to md5sum) and the executable mappings didn't share with other ones, I'd have it all protected. Signed-off-by: Albert Cahalan - --- linux

Re: PowerPC paxtest results w/ gcc-4.1

2006-08-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 8/12/06, Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Albert Cahalan writes: > VM_STACK_DEFAULT_FLAGS32 is wrong. A fail-safe > default is important for security. If gcc on PowerPC ever > does generate code which puts trampolines on the stack, > then that can be fixed by con

Re: PowerPC paxtest results w/ gcc-4.1

2006-08-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 8/12/06, Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Albert Cahalan writes: > gcc version 4.1.2 20060613 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-5) OK, so I think that version should have the new -msecure-plt flag, The flag matters not, even with the very latest binutils that Debian offers, ver

Re: PowerPC paxtest results w/ gcc-4.1

2006-08-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 8/12/06, Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Albert Cahalan writes: > I just ran paxtest on a Mac G4 Cube. Ouch. The results are shameful. What gcc version, what binutils version, what kernel version? My gcc claims to be: Using built-in specs. Target: powerpc-linux-gnu C

PowerPC paxtest results w/ gcc-4.1

2006-08-11 Thread Albert Cahalan
I just ran paxtest on a Mac G4 Cube. Ouch. The results are shameful. Does nobody care to fix this? (well heck, the patched firefox isn't showing up via aptitude yet, and my browser just died a horrible and unexpected death involving a pop-up ad, so I guess not!) I suppose part of the problem is t

Re: Gnash on ppc

2006-06-05 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 6/5/06, Eddy Petrişor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/5/06, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/2/06, Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It seems you might be having some problem with OpenGL acceleration. Gnash uses > > OpenGL right now

Re: Gnash on ppc

2006-06-04 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 6/2/06, Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I probably won't get it out of experimental until upstream formally releases a beta version. ... It's testeable and maybe usable for some things, but it's not in the state to be given to end users yet. It seems you might be having some problem

USB audio died via "upgrade"

2006-05-27 Thread Albert Cahalan
I had a perfectly fine setup, with ALSA compiled into the kernel and esd running. Well, it was as fine as can be with esd, but anyway... After a general multi-package upgrade, nothing works. Of course I do not know the cause, but the new userspace managed to OOPS the OSS emulation with a NULL po

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: The powerpc port should be removed from etch release candidates ...]

2006-05-17 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 5/17/06, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:18:28AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > On 5/12/06, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >There was an easy way not to problong the discussion. Restore the svn > >commit > >

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: The powerpc port should be removed from etch release candidates ...]

2006-05-16 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 5/12/06, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There was an easy way not to problong the discussion. Restore the svn commit acces, which you could have done all those weeks ago if you had not been too proud and afraid to lose face. Better: do like Linus, and take away access from all but o

Re: Can't install, no KBD (G4 Cube)

2005-12-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 12/7/05, Rich Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 7, 2005, at 12:27 PM, Hans Ekbrand wrote: > >> > >> So, yeah, I'd say it doesn't provide a clear description. > > > > Here a draft on the possiblities involved. If my understanding of the > > issues are correct, the installation manual

Re: Yosemite /proc/cpuinfo

2005-12-11 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 12/11/05, Robin Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > my cpuinfo reports temp as 27-31 uncalibrated? what does this mean is it > possible to get an accurate reading from my g3 powermac... the reason im > interested is because i have overclocked it from 350mhz to 400mhz. You can calibrate

Re: powerpc and s390: buildd environments screwed?

2005-09-27 Thread Albert Cahalan
> > I don't really like the idea of bin-NMUing all those packages without > > understanding the cause. If it turns out to be a real bug somewhere that > > needs fixing, the whole bin-NMU dance will have to be done all over > > again. > > Me neither, but I am not qualified to find out the cause. Jo

Re: Bug#322821: libpng12-0: new version breaks pdflatex

2005-09-27 Thread Albert Cahalan
> Well, I think it's clear: We need a binary-only upload of tetex-bin. > I've never done that on one of the developer machines; is there any DD > on the powerpc list who is willing to save me from learning ;-)? To be safe, do everything that depends on the library.

Re: Bug#322821: libpng12-0: new version breaks pdflatex

2005-09-27 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 9/27/05, Johannes Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 18:54 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > > The gimp is currently broken as well. It can't save PNG images. > > In the xterm I started gimp from, I get this: > > > libpng er

Re: png problems on powerpc and s390 (was: Bug#322821: libpng12-0: new version breaks pdflatex)

2005-09-27 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 9/27/05, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Johannes Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 18:54 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > > >> The gimp is currently broken as well. It can't save PNG images. >

Re: Bug#322821: libpng12-0: new version breaks pdflatex

2005-09-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
> To sum things up: An update of libpng has caused tetex-bin (actually the > pdftex binary) to fail when including a png image. Since we (teTeX > maintainers) made no changes, we suspected that it's a change in libpng, > but there were no changes that could cause this, either. The gimp is current

Re: 64bit status report : biarch toolchain and ppc64 debian kernel.

2005-08-18 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 8/19/05, Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 22:55 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > On 8/18/05, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > That brings us to the next step, what is the best way to get most > >

Re: 64bit status report : biarch toolchain and ppc64 debian kernel.

2005-08-18 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 8/18/05, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That brings us to the next step, what is the best way to get most libraries to > build 64bit packages ? This would need some extensive change in the packaging > stuff probably. As you know, there are two ways: a. Major hacking for each and eve

Re: Hi everybody and a question about external modems

2005-08-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
> I am about to install Debian on my newl acquired Mac Mini 1.25. I'd > like to mainly run it as a LAMP system, but also - if possible - as a > voice mail box / fax machine under Debian. > > Afaik, the internal modem is unsupported by Linux, so I thought about > hooking up an external modem (Elsa

Re: acroread+qemu

2005-07-30 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 17:16 +0200, Wojciech Owczarek wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:34:16 -0700 (PDT) > Enrique Morfin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > Anyone runing acrobat 7 with qemu-i386? > > Give me one good reason for using acrobat reader and not Xpdf. Sure. Here is the Flori

Re: Choosing filesystems for exchanging data among operating system

2005-07-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 19:38 +0200, sascha brossmann wrote: > @albert: concerning UFS, all i ever heard was recommendations against > using it unless being absolutely forced to because of some legacy > software, so i never considered. If you'd even consider using FAT, then UFS will do. UFS is just

Re: Fs

2005-07-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 16:19 +0200, sascha brossmann wrote: > iirc ext3 is (roughly put) ext2 + journalling, and thus ext3 partitions > should be accessible with an ext2 driver. the ext2 driver for os x does > currently *not* work properly with tiger though, as apple changed the > kernel interface[

desktop icons and places menu

2005-02-16 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 01:28 +0100, Sjoerd Simons wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 04:58:44PM -0500, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > What I'd like is GNOME without the nonsense desktop icons. I mean, > > really, who can ever find their desktop buried under all the apps? > > I

Re: Getting rid of hotplug & Co. for 2.6

2005-02-16 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 19:58 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > Hotplug and its colleagues: I confess my lowest instincts get mobilised > when thinking on this stuff: I slows down the whole boot process so > much that sometimes I feel like being on a 2.2 kernel. > > So all I need to know: Can I run

Re: endianness guide

2005-02-10 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 16:40 -0500, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 16:02 -0500, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > > > "char" is unsigned by default on PowerPC, but signed on every other > > system. [...] > > The second half is wrong, It's close eno

Re: endianness guide

2005-02-10 Thread Albert Cahalan
> > I don't know if by module you mean kernel module, but you should look > > at the ntoh[l|s] && hton[l|s] macros. That should help... (the "host" > > is supposed to be big endian, so if you work on a big endian machine, > > ntohX does nothing). > > > So if I'm using a big endian machine like

Re: NPTL -- not happening?

2005-01-18 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 19:45, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 18:09 +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > Don't be stupid, only a few people really need NPTL stuff, and you can > > always > > follow testing/unstable once sarge is released. > > This is a bogus argument actuall

Re: NPTL -- not happening?

2005-01-18 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 19:45, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 18:09 +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > Don't be stupid, only a few people really need NPTL stuff, and you can > > always > > follow testing/unstable once sarge is released. > > This is a bogus argument actuall

NPTL -- not happening?

2005-01-18 Thread Albert Cahalan
I've been waiting ages for decent threads on PowerPC. There's a glibc bug about it, with a way-too-low priority. What gives? If this has something to do with a Debian release, well, just don't release PowerPC in that case. It's not ready if it still uses the horrid old pre-NPTL threads. BTW, gcc-

NPTL -- not happening?

2005-01-18 Thread Albert Cahalan
I've been waiting ages for decent threads on PowerPC. There's a glibc bug about it, with a way-too-low priority. What gives? If this has something to do with a Debian release, well, just don't release PowerPC in that case. It's not ready if it still uses the horrid old pre-NPTL threads. BTW, gcc-

Re: incompatible unaligned.h between x86 and ppc - kernel-hackers verify please

2004-11-03 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 18:30, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > What crap? You're the one who implied that these were > > somehow kernel headers. They're not. They come with > > the glibc-headers package. > > > > It really doesn't matter how this is fixed. It could be > > fixed in the glibc-headers pack

Re: incompatible unaligned.h between x86 and ppc - kernel-hackersverify please

2004-11-03 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 17:39, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 23:37 +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > > It's a bug in VDR to use a platform independent way of accessing unaligned > > data? I don't think so... > > It is a bug in _ANY_ userland application to rely on an inlin

Re: incompatible unaligned.h between x86 and ppc - kernel-hackers verify please

2004-11-03 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 17:24, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > Please point to the equally-optimized alternative > > that works on all platforms. > > If there is none, then rip off the kernel implementation or lobby glibc > to provide one, or make a "libunaligned.so" and distribute it etc... > >

Re: incompatible unaligned.h between x86 and ppc - kernel-hackers verify please

2004-11-03 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 04:23, Vincent Hanquez wrote: > On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 09:56:18AM +0100, Christoph Ewering wrote: > > ppc. The asm-ppc/unaligned.h has two lines more - at the begining of > > unaligned.h "#ifdef __KERNEL__" and at the end "#endif /* KERNEL */". > > So I "greped" around in

Re: Why is koffice missing from debian-ppc ?

2004-11-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 22:36, Tommy Trussell wrote: > I have heard some positive things about kword, but koffice is not in > the debian-ppc standard archives, and packages for other distros look > pretty outdated. Others: ted OpenOffice AbiWord I use ted. It's fast. It works well enough for doing

Re: [Linux-fbdev-users] (2.6.9-rc4|2.6.9|2.6.10-rc1) black cursor on console [ppc platform]

2004-10-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 10:36, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Antonino A. Daplas wrote: > > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 15:34, Guido Guenther wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 04:09:44AM +0800, Antonino A. Daplas wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 02:49, Elimar Riesebieter

Re: setup needed for PowerPC assembler programming

2004-09-13 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 23:54, Steve Richter wrote: > Well I won an auction on ebay for a G3 iMac. Its blueberry colored! > $120 + $40 shipping. Not bad. > > I am looking forward to seeing how far I can go with this. I have an > IBM as400 which is powered by a 64 bit PPC with some special > instru

Re: How to boot w/o initrd?

2004-09-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 07:47, Matthew T. Atkinson wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 05:18, Jens Schmalzing wrote: > > You are thinking VGA console here, aren't you? I'm afraid that this > > is not an option for PowerPC hardware at all. The framebuffer console > > is the only way of writing stuff to

Re: Building mozart-gtk on powerpc [request for help]

2004-08-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2004-08-25 at 07:52, Kevin Glynn wrote: > Daniel Kobras writes: > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 06:21:57PM +0200, Kevin Glynn wrote: > > > fyi, it is because va_list is declared as a one-element array of > > > structs on powerpc, unlike other architectures so code like: > > > > > > va_lis

initial XF86Config

2004-07-27 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 15:16, jon salenger wrote: > I'd just continue if I wasn't > starting to get burnout/run out of ideas. There's got to be a better way, especially considering that this is Mac hardware. There simply haven't been that many different kinds of hardware in recent years. In spite

Re: How to configure yaboot for initrd? I need help...

2004-07-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 15:57, Cedric Pradalier wrote: > Maybe, but when your system is dead saying only "syntax error", it is > the only solution I found to restore the situation from osx. Can you > propose a better one ? Knowing that I didn't have a rescue disk at > hand. > > To avoid having

Re: read dvd with iso-8859-1 charset under os x

2004-07-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 08:17, Jean-Christophe Michel wrote: > Hi, > > I use xcdroast to burn backup dvds under debian unstable/2.6.6, where > locale are iso-8859-1. Source is a volume shared with netatalk. > Mounting dvds under debian work fine, I see all filenames wiht > accentuated chars. But mo

Re: Some 2.6.6 kernel questions

2004-07-13 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 10:18, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 06:58:21AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 07:15, Sven Luther wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 10:29:25PM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > > > > > Just yesterda

Re: Some 2.6.6 kernel questions

2004-07-13 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 07:15, Sven Luther wrote: > On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 10:29:25PM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > Just yesterday I grabbed a plain 2.6.8-rc1 kernel > > from www.kernel.org/pub/linux/ and it works great > > on my Mac Cube. Perhaps you should try that. >

Re: Some 2.6.6 kernel questions

2004-07-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sun, 2004-07-11 at 06:40, Roland Wegmann wrote: > 'vmlinux-2.6.6.100704' (my kernel image) and a file 'vmlinux.coff- > 2.6.6.100704'. What is the file 'vmlinux.coff-*' for? It's junk. > initrd=...). What are the advantages of initrd kernels over non-initrd > kernels? What is the function of t

Re: kernel selection: powerpc, power4 or power3?

2004-06-30 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 07:27, Colin Watson wrote: > No, -power3 is for POWER3 processors, used in older IBM RS/6000 systems. > Similarly, -power4 is for POWER4 processors, used in iSeries, pSeries, > and G5 systems. You want -powerpc. They aren't compatible in the way > that -386, -686, etc. are.

Re: FAQ?

2004-06-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2004-06-23 at 18:22, Sam Halliday wrote: > btw... maybe a totally wrong mailing list to be askign this question... but > i'd > really really like to do some assembly programming on my PPC. can anyone > reccomend a good book to learn PPC assembly? i have never done ANY assembly > before, s

Re: Cinelerra

2004-06-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 17:14, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 20:11 +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > > > The default Cflag in debian/rules looks: > > CFLAGS=-ffast-math -O3 -mmmx -march=pentium-mmx > > This won't work for a PB. So I changed it to > > CFLAGS +=-g > > > > and the co

Re: Interesting shell prompts (bash or otherwise)

2004-05-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, 2004-05-29 at 23:12, Dean Hamstead wrote: > has anyone got an intersting shell prompt or a link or something > > maybe a little more jazzy than... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > > i know i just need edit ~/.bash_profile or /etc/profile > im just not very creative today =) Sure, if USEFUL is wha

Re: therm_adt746x and load average

2004-05-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 07:39, Colin LEROY wrote: > >>iboox:~# uptime > >> 11:27:37 up 32 min, 1 user, load average: 1.96, 1.23, 0.77 > >> > >>If I discharge this module, > >> > >>iboox:~# rmmod therm_adt746x > >>iboox:~# uptime > >> 11:37:15 up 42 min, 1 user, load average: 0.11, 0.56, 0.65 > >

Re: Linux vs Mac OS 10.3(Panther)

2004-05-13 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 11:30, Rob Latham wrote: > On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 06:22:39PM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > forget about streaming video and flash > > mplayer and mplayer-plugin make streaming video a little less painful, > but yeah, it's about 6 months before

Re: Linux vs Mac OS 10.3(Panther)

2004-05-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 18:57, Isidoro Reyes wrote: > Hi guys. > > I am thinking about buying a new Powerbook. And i'm wondering about the > performance on linux. I mean, i'm not a linux begginer, i've been using linux > for serveral years, so i don't mind to spend mi time checking or compiling a

Re: debian boot CDs & G5

2004-05-10 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 02:46, Jens Schmalzing wrote: > Colin Watson writes: > > In that case, we could save a fair bit of space by shipping both > > kernels but only one set of modules, and somehow educating d-i about > > this. > > This would add considerable obfuscation at several points. The bu

glibc cross-compile

2004-04-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 19:09, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > (glibc cannot easily be cross-compiled/bootstraped, > this is the root of the problem, the glibc maintainer > doesn't consider that as an important feature). Ever wonder why? When you do a native build, glibc itself is involved in the

Re: ppc64 port

2004-04-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 13:38, Peter Bergner wrote: > Getting back to what Ben said, yes, PPC64 apps do tend to need more > instructions for some things. I will say that the compiler is smart > enough to use fewer than 5 instructions for loading constants when > it can. It's cases like code with R

Re: ppc64 port

2004-04-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 14:09, Kevin B.Hendricks wrote: > For example the OpenOffice.org tree is not 64bit clean > (or even close) and will probably take a lot of work to > reach that point. On x86_64 they simply use the 386 rpm. This won't work for long. OpenOffice is one of those apps that needs

Re: ppc64 port

2004-04-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 09:13, Tom Gall wrote: > Let's review where some of the the other distros are at and what they > are doing for x86_64 as well. Everyone (and I mean everyone) has the > ability to run both 32 bit and 64 bit code. For x86-64 and ia64 this makes sense. There are a good number

Re: ppc64 port

2004-04-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 19:09, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > Well, the later is not true. 32 bits code tend to run faster than 64 > bits code on ppc64. Unlike amd64 where you win by having access to more > registers, on ppc64, you just end up having to use more instructions to > load a full const

Re: chmod????

2004-04-27 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 01:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > OK, this one's new to me (of course, all most anything is with Debian). I'm > trying to tweak the permissions on my cdrom so that I can use it as a regular > user. I've already successfully changed the group for the cdrom, but now when > I >

Re: VertRefresh and HorizSync for Imac DV

2004-04-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 20:53, Dean Hamstead wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > why 15 bit, like 16bit is 2bytes. wouldnt running 15 cause > funny problems, or just be wasting one bit? unless > powerpc doesnt have 8bit bytes or something. One bit is wasted, used for transp

Re: debian boot CDs & G5

2004-04-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 04:41, Olaf Hering wrote: > On Sat, Apr 24, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 05:02:51PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > Hi Sven ! > > > > > > The current CDs won't boot a G5 with the -power4 option. The problem > > > is that the kernel contains

Re: pbbuttonsd script interface - future?

2004-04-19 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 08:01, Matthias Grimm wrote: > Are two modes (minimum power consumption, maximum performance) enough or > do we need an additional custom mode? Makes such a mode sense? Will it be > used > by the user? 1. maximum performance 2. low power consumption (but usable!) 3. quiet

Re: partitioning and booting

2004-03-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 15:05, Mich Lanners wrote: > On 1 Mar, this message from Albert Cahalan echoed through cyberspace: > > Besides mac-fdisk and dd, what works for a Mac? > > I believe parted also works, but I haven't used it personally. > > > So far, I'

partitioning and booting

2004-03-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
Besides mac-fdisk and dd, what works for a Mac? With the bearings on my disk about to die, I might only get one chance to make a second bootable disk. In the Mac Cube, I have a 20 GB IDE disk with both MacOS 9.1 and some ext2 Linux partitions. The physical and logical partition order don't match;

Re: [OT] fhs and multiple partitions (was: Installing Debian using ...)

2004-02-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 10:25, Kiko Piris wrote: > On 23/02/2004 at 07:52, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > Nope. This is Linux, which kicks ass. On your > > single-partition Linux 2.6 system, do this: > > > > mount --bind /home /home > > mount --bind -o remount,nosuid /h

Re: [OT] fhs and multiple partitions (was: Installing Debian using ...)

2004-02-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 06:46, Kiko Piris wrote: > On 23/02/2004 at 00:05, s. keeling wrote: > > This is ridiculous advice and I wish people like you would stop > > offering it. Multiple partitions make the system far more robust and > > usable in many ways, from backing it up through system stabili

Re: user processes shell scripts

2004-02-22 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 11:53, nico dreher wrote: > I am looking for commands that show information about the user, that > identify the user, ... > # show processes running under a certain user > > ps -aux | grep USERNAME That should be "ps aux" above. The other way only works as long as you don'

Re: Monitoring tools (that will work...)

2003-12-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, 2003-12-25 at 23:24, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Thu, 2003-12-25 at 03:53, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 04:50, Colin Charles wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Just wondering/looking for some monitoring tools for my iBook2. I&#x

Re: Monitoring tools (that will work...)

2003-12-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 04:50, Colin Charles wrote: > Hi all, > > Just wondering/looking for some monitoring tools for my iBook2. I'm > tracking Sid at the moment and would like to know if I could measure: > > 1. my CPU temperature (cat /proc/cpuinfo says the temperature data is > uncalibrated) Yo

Re: CFP (Call for Participation) Debian PPC64

2003-11-16 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 20:49, Alan Modra wrote: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 07:56:51AM -0500, Kevin B.Hendricks wrote: > > For example ... Linuxppc64 even follow the broken AIX alignment that > > long long ints are aligned to 8 but doubles are only aligned to 4 in > > structures. > > Not any more.

Re: CFP (Call for Participation) Debian PPC64

2003-11-11 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 19:16, Albert Cahalan wrote: > On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:37, Peter Bergner wrote: > > Kevin B.Hendricks wrote: > > > One question, why do 32 bit apps run faster than 64 bit apps, is it all > > > of the memory accesses needed to load 64 bit immediate

Re: CFP (Call for Participation) Debian PPC64

2003-11-11 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:37, Peter Bergner wrote: > Kevin B.Hendricks wrote: > > One question, why do 32 bit apps run faster than 64 bit apps, is it all > > of the memory accesses needed to load 64 bit immediate and other data > > when restricted to 32 bit instruction lengths? > > Yes, on powerp

Re: CFP (Call for Participation) Debian PPC64

2003-11-11 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 14:36, Kevin B.Hendricks wrote: > I got got a dual Operton system that is similar in many ways to the > PPC64 versus 32 issue in that 32 bit apps run at full speed under > Opteron. Me too. > Using that as an example: > > - kernel is 64 bit supporting both 32 but and 64 bi

Re: CFP (Call for Participation) Debian PPC64

2003-11-11 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 12:06, Leigh Brown wrote: > Albert Cahalan said: > > On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 22:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> Thankfully this is not a huge undertaking as the goal is not to create > >> an end to end 64 bit system. (Tho that could b

Re: CFP (Call for Participation) Debian PPC64

2003-11-11 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 22:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thankfully this is not a huge undertaking as the goal is not to create > an end to end 64 bit system. (Tho that could be done, but perhaps > that's a discussion for another day) It's not as if the Linux apps are all 32-bit. Due to the Al

Re: PCI hardware

2003-08-16 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 11:35, vinai wrote: > With the newer, faster flavours of PCI (PCI-X, etc) there might be some > incompatibilities. I've already heard rumblings about the new Apple G5 > machines only being able to use 3.3V "PCI" cards. But they run on a new > flavour of PCI, and won't be abl

Re: 22" apple flatpanel

2003-08-14 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 05:33, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 03:02, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > > > I had to give up on a 1600x1088 virtual setting (to hide a task bar) > > Have you tried > > Virtual 1600 1088 > > in the display subsec

Re: 22" apple flatpanel

2003-08-13 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 17:45, P Oscar Boykin wrote: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 09:32:50AM -0700, Adam H. Done wrote: > > I pluged the flat panel and the only way i can boot into linux with it > > is to append video=ofonly in the boot process and then the ttys work but > > when ever I try to start X

Re: G4 Cube and audio

2003-07-09 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 23:03, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > I've got a G4 Cube running sid, and since it's quieter and cooler than > my Athlon based PC, it's pretty much my primary machine at home right > now. The one thing I'm missing is music. The Cube doesn't have built > in audio hardware, and in

Re: CDROM drive of the iMac

2003-07-02 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 18:13, José Leônidas Bier Brasileiro wrote: > Hello there, > > I just managed to set the "autofs" feature to work in order to mount my CD > ROM drive, but it wasn't as good as I thought, because, I can't read > immediately the CD in the Konqueror Window. I have to actually

Re: Supported systems (Was: Apple PowerMac G5)

2003-07-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 08:19, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 02:31, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: >> *Very* nice to know. Do you mean you are >> the main driver developer for the PowerMacs? > > I maintain the PowerMac port of the kernel, yes. > >> BTW, do you

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