Re: Lombard booting Debian Ports 2020-04-19 (was Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2020-04-19)

2020-04-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 4/21/20 4:38 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> I think you forgot to the "mac-support" branch as the OF path >> string is missing the partition suffix. > > This seems to be a recurring theme. > > Maybe Master should check for OS X, and tell the user to switch to the > mac-support branch. > > The c

Re: Lombard booting Debian Ports 2020-04-19 (was Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2020-04-19)

2020-04-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:23 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > ... > >> ... > >> If you want to verify that the updated version shows the paths correctly, > >> you have to checkout the script from git and run it from there: > >> > >> # https://github.com/glaubitz/powerpc-utils.git > >> # gi

Re: ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 and iBook G3's

2020-04-20 Thread Steve Burkhart
The irony is that on the i686 side, my Thinkpad T42 features the same GPU, and it works just fine with Debian unstable. On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 10:35 PM Steve Burkhart wrote: > firnware-amd-graphics is installed when firmware-linux-nonfree is > installed, so yes. > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 10:25 PM

Re: ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 and iBook G3's

2020-04-20 Thread Steve Burkhart
firnware-amd-graphics is installed when firmware-linux-nonfree is installed, so yes. On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 10:25 PM Michael Cree wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:12:10PM -0400, Steve Burkhart wrote: > > While we're on the topic of display driver problems, does anyone know why > > the ATI Rade

Re: ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 and iBook G3's

2020-04-20 Thread Michael Cree
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:12:10PM -0400, Steve Burkhart wrote: > While we're on the topic of display driver problems, does anyone know why > the ATI Radeon 7500 found in many iBook G3 models is non functional with > Xorg? After installing the non free firmware, the screen just blinks, and > eventu

ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 and iBook G3's

2020-04-20 Thread Steve Burkhart
While we're on the topic of display driver problems, does anyone know why the ATI Radeon 7500 found in many iBook G3 models is non functional with Xorg? After installing the non free firmware, the screen just blinks, and eventually freezes. I've encountered this problem on 500Mhz, 600MHz, 700MHz, 8

Re: Lombard booting Debian Ports 2020-04-19 (was Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2020-04-19)

2020-04-20 Thread userm57
On 4/20/20 7:27 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, at 9:18 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> On 4/20/20 6:02 PM, user...@yahoo.com wrote: >>> Yes, I forgot to checkout the mac-support branch. Here are the new results: >>> >>> root@lombard:/data/software/powerpc-utils# ./scr

Re: Lombard booting Debian Ports 2020-04-19 (was Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2020-04-19)

2020-04-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, at 9:18 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 4/20/20 6:02 PM, user...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Yes, I forgot to checkout the mac-support branch. Here are the new results: > > > > root@lombard:/data/software/powerpc-utils# ./scripts/ofpathname --version > > ofpathname: Ve

Mach64 driver?

2020-04-20 Thread Alex McKeever
A fellow YouTuber by the name of Action Retro has an older iMac than I do that could benefit from the Mach64 driver... has that been dropped too? Would it be too much to ask to bring that back too? I know he’d appreciate it as he tried Adelie Linux and couldn’t get it fully working either. Than

Thank you for supporting our old Macs

2020-04-20 Thread Alex McKeever
I know I’ve been a bit of an annoyance, but I would like to thank all of you responsible for keeping our old PowerPC machines running well after Debian and Ubuntu dropped support for them. Rock on! Sent from my iPad

Re: Patched XOrg to get r128 working?

2020-04-20 Thread aggaz
Wow, I did not expect that. I can understand the need to clean up things, but at the same time it is sad to see how support is gradually lost for old machines. I am sincerely grateful for the work people is doing to bring support back to those old beautiful machines. Thank you Regards A.

Re: Patched XOrg to get r128 working?

2020-04-20 Thread Alex McKeever
What’ll have to be done now? Very curious to the outcome. > On Apr 20, 2020, at 4:48 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > On 4/20/20 10:44 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> On 4/20/20 10:39 PM, Ed Robbins wrote: >>> What rage 128 patches are you alluding to? >> >> This might be rele

Re: Patched XOrg to get r128 working?

2020-04-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 4/20/20 10:37 PM, Alex McKeever wrote: > Here’s a link to the patch for r128’s Xorg driver on Github: > https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/blob/master/srcpkgs/xf86-video-r128/patches/fix-non-x86.patch > >

Re: Patched XOrg to get r128 working?

2020-04-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 4/20/20 10:44 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 4/20/20 10:39 PM, Ed Robbins wrote: >> What rage 128 patches are you alluding to? > > This might be relevant [1] although I haven't checked whether > the patch was ever merged upstream. It is: > https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/x

Re: Patched XOrg to get r128 working?

2020-04-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 4/20/20 10:39 PM, Ed Robbins wrote: > What rage 128 patches are you alluding to? This might be relevant [1] although I haven't checked whether the patch was ever merged upstream. Either way, the Rage-128 driver package is gone, so we need to use a something like xserver-xorg-video-modesetting

Re: Bug#955603: RM: xserver-xorg-input-aiptek -- ROM; unmaintained, obsolete, or both

2020-04-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello! > xserver-xorg-video-ast > xserver-xorg-video-geode > xserver-xorg-video-mach64 > xserver-xorg-video-neomagic > xserver-xorg-video-r128 > xserver-xorg-video-savage > xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion > xserver-xorg-video-sisusb > xserver-xorg-video-tdfx > xserver-xorg-video-trident The r128

Re: Patched XOrg to get r128 working?

2020-04-20 Thread Ed Robbins
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020, 21:11 Alex McKeever, wrote: > > Tried everything to get X working (needed working for LXDE), including a new > xorg.conf with modelines. NO SUCCESS AT ALL. > > Another developer (who works on VoidPPC) said r128 needs patched to even > work…. I don’t even know what he did to

Re: Patched XOrg to get r128 working?

2020-04-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 4/20/20 10:26 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 4/20/20 10:10 PM, Alex McKeever wrote: >> Tried everything to get X working (needed working for LXDE), including a new >> xorg.conf with modelines. NO SUCCESS AT ALL. >> >> Another developer (who works on VoidPPC) said r128 needs patched t

Re: Patched XOrg to get r128 working?

2020-04-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 4/20/20 10:10 PM, Alex McKeever wrote: > Tried everything to get X working (needed working for LXDE), including a new > xorg.conf with modelines. NO SUCCESS AT ALL. > > Another developer (who works on VoidPPC) said r128 needs patched to even > work…. > I don’t even know what he did to get it

Patched XOrg to get r128 working?

2020-04-20 Thread Alex McKeever
Tried everything to get X working (needed working for LXDE), including a new xorg.conf with modelines. NO SUCCESS AT ALL. Another developer (who works on VoidPPC) said r128 needs patched to even work…. I don’t even know what he did to get it working over there.

Re: Currently testing the latest NETINST image on my iMac G3.....

2020-04-20 Thread aggaz
As somebody already suggested [1], have you tried using a custom xorg.conf iMac-G3-specific, like this one for example [2]? I never used that xorg.conf, is the first one google gave me, but I know that iMac G3 required custom xorg.conf in the past. [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/

Re: Success with Debian Ports 2020-04-19

2020-04-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Charles! On 4/20/20 6:57 PM, Charles E. Lehner wrote: > Another sometime powerpc user here. I successfully used the 2020-04-19 > image today to install Debian on a PowerBook6,4. Thanks for making it > work. It was cool that the CD showed the GNU icon in the Mac boot > menu - I dunno if that is

Re: Currently testing the latest NETINST image on my iMac G3.....

2020-04-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 4/20/20 6:33 PM, Alex McKeever wrote: > As the subject suggests, I’m giving the new image made yesterday a go. > > Currently I’m in need of help getting LXDE running like it should. According > to XOrg, no screens can be found. Likewise startlxde is similarly in the same > boat. As suggested

Success with Debian Ports 2020-04-19

2020-04-20 Thread Charles E. Lehner
Hi Adrian and the List, Another sometime powerpc user here. I successfully used the 2020-04-19 image today to install Debian on a PowerBook6,4. Thanks for making it work. It was cool that the CD showed the GNU icon in the Mac boot menu - I dunno if that is new. I used Guided partitioning to the wh

Currently testing the latest NETINST image on my iMac G3.....

2020-04-20 Thread Alex McKeever
As the subject suggests, I’m giving the new image made yesterday a go. Currently I’m in need of help getting LXDE running like it should. According to XOrg, no screens can be found. Likewise startlxde is similarly in the same boat. Nothing I have tried has worked. Thank you.

Re: Lombard booting Debian Ports 2020-04-19 (was Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2020-04-19)

2020-04-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 4/20/20 6:02 PM, user...@yahoo.com wrote: > Yes, I forgot to checkout the mac-support branch. Here are the new results: > > root@lombard:/data/software/powerpc-utils# ./scripts/ofpathname --version > ofpathname: Version 0.5 > Written by: Nathan Fontenot > > root@lombard:/data/software/powerp

Re: Lombard booting Debian Ports 2020-04-19 (was Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2020-04-19)

2020-04-20 Thread userm57
On 4/20/20 9:23 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >>> ... >>> If you want to verify that the updated version shows the paths correctly, >>> you have to checkout the script from git and run it from there: >>> >>> # https://github.com/glaubitz/powerpc-utils.git >>> # git checkout mac-support >>> #

Re: Lombard booting Debian Ports 2020-04-19 (was Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2020-04-19)

2020-04-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 4/20/20 5:07 PM, user...@yahoo.com wrote: >> This should actually work unless the system has issues reading the >> CD-ROM itself or the HFS+ filesystem used on the CD-ROM. > > ok, thanks. The CD is recognized as HFS+ by Mac OS 9.2.2 (325,167,104 > bytes for 1,284 items). Running Debian SID (i

Re: Lombard booting Debian Ports 2020-04-19 (was Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2020-04-19)

2020-04-20 Thread userm57
On 4/20/20 8:12 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 4/20/20 3:30 PM, user...@yahoo.com wrote: >>> Did you try loading GRUB directly from the OpenFirmware prompt? >> >> From the Open Firmware prompt, the Debian 7.8 CD can be booted using the >> following command: >> 0 > boot cd:,\install\yaboo

Re: Lombard booting Debian Ports 2020-04-19 (was Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2020-04-19)

2020-04-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 4/20/20 3:30 PM, user...@yahoo.com wrote: >> Did you try loading GRUB directly from the OpenFirmware prompt? > > From the Open Firmware prompt, the Debian 7.8 CD can be booted using the > following command: > 0 > boot cd:,\install\yaboot > > From the Open Firmware prompt, the Debian SID CD can

Lombard booting Debian Ports 2020-04-19 (was Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2020-04-19)

2020-04-20 Thread userm57
On 4/19/20 11:58 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > ... > Some error messages would be nice. What's preventing the boot? I don't know what's preventing the CD from booting. I don't see any error messages; the CD just doesn't seem to be a bootable device. The Debian 7.8 CD does boot. > Did

Re: Repository address for netinst

2020-04-20 Thread Colton Booth
Thank you all for your help with this! My apologies for the lack of replies, the wife has kept me busy all weekend with yard work. However I will chisel out some time today after work and try this on my iBook. That reminds me, I should be receiving my new Titanium PowerBook in the mail from

Re: hfsprogs is not DFSG-Free

2020-04-20 Thread Rogério Brito
Em 19 de abril de 2020 05:20:39 BRT, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz escreveu: >Hi! > >hfsprogs is mandatory for the debian-installer on Apple Power Mac, >removing it, would break debian-installer for said platform. > >I will adopt the package if Rogério is not willing to maintain it. > >Adrian Hi, Ad

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2020-04-19

2020-04-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Heiner! On 4/20/20 12:14 PM, ras sta wrote: > First impression: > Installation went fine. Grub is working. > Installed lightdm and then mate. Radeon isn't recognized. No other firmware > loaded(usb3 card)... > There is no acceleration with the nv6600 . All very slow and if i move a > wind

Re: hfsprogs is not DFSG-Free

2020-04-20 Thread Tobias Frost
Discussion thread on d-legal: https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2020/04/msg1.html)

Re: hfsprogs is not DFSG-Free

2020-04-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello! I have done some research and I do not think that the claim that this software is not dfsg-free is correct. First of all, the license claimed in debian/copyright is incorrect. The upstream package that hfsprogs is based on - diskdev_cmds-332.25 [1] - is not covered by the APSL-2.0 but vers

Classification of the APSL as non-DFSG-compliant

2020-04-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello! I would like to adopt the package hfsprogs which is required for debian-installer on Apple PowerBook and PowerMac. Since 2012, there has been a bug report opened against the claiming that the package is not DFSG-compliant due to the APSL license and I have some doubts in the current situa