On 09/26/2017 10:55 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:
> It’s relevant only in that other arches have a similar problem and the way
> they choose to deal with it is to have a separate ext2 /boot partition.
> I’m just pointing out that it works for them, so why not take advantage
> of their experience?
Because
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On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Lennart Sorensen <
lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 08:40:13PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> > Ok, so I guess the first step would be to patch partman-auto to increase
> > the size of the bootloader partition
On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:53 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
wrote:
> On 09/26/2017 11:48 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
>> There is precedent for always having an ext2 /boot partition. Any arm system
>> that uses u-boot needs the filesystem it reads from the be either ext2 or
>> fat.
>> So the installer c
On 09/26/2017 10:34 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:
> Hmmm… Are you sure it’s trying to read /etc/yaboot.conf (i.e. from the root
> partition)?
Yes, that's directly part of the error message. It tries to read
"-3/etc/yaboot.conf" and then prints the corrupted filesystem error.
I had to take a screensho
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 08:41:10PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 09/26/2017 05:14 PM, Milan Kupcevic wrote:
> >> So, it seems that your original suggestion to just enable an ext2 /boot
> >> partition is not enough. Yaboot's configuration file also needs to
> >> be accessible on a non
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 04:16:23PM -0400, Milan Kupcevic wrote:
> Linux only oldworld Mac machines were using Quik.
>
> https://packages.debian.org/sid/quik
>
> Quik was not able to dual boot so if you had MacOS and linux the only
> way to dual boot was to have the BootX (Penguin Icon) module ins
On Sep 26, 2017, at 6:47 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
wrote:
> On 09/26/2017 03:00 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> I'm still a bit undecided about the ext4 issue with Yaboot. I actually
>> would tend to always use the ext2 /boot partitions for all installations
>> and revert the work-a
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 08:40:13PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> Ok, so I guess the first step would be to patch partman-auto to increase
> the size of the bootloader partition for all sub-architectures.
>
> Question: Does GRUB work on all the PowerPC variants that Yaboot supports?
We
On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:53 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
wrote:
>> Until we get grub working, would it be possible to temporarily remove the
>> "$defaultignore{}”, just as a convenience to keep yaboot happy?
>
> Well, then we should also remove this workaround [1].
I quite agree. Disabling new
On 09/26/2017 02:40 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> Ok, so I guess the first step would be to patch partman-auto to increase
> the size of the bootloader partition for all sub-architectures.
As for the required size we should probably consult wit Grub
maintainers. I guess it depends on whic
On Sep 26, 2017, at 11:40 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
wrote:
> So, do we all agree that the first thing is to increase the size of the
> bootloader partitions for the aforementioned systems?
That would certainly seem to be an easy and non-controversial first step.
Let’s do it.
Thanks!
Rick
Hi Frank!
On 09/26/2017 08:57 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote:
> Sorry, I'm a little occupied recently, but I was successful in installing and
> using Grub to boot my Xserve G4 on Debian Sid this weekend. Haven't tried on
> other
> G3 or G4 Power Macs yet, though.
Please try to perform some more testin
Hi,
On 09/26/2017 03:19 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Hi!
On powerpc systems, Debian-Installer contains the following warning
when trying to set up GRUB as the default bootloader [1]:
"grub-installer/grub_not_mature_on_this_platform ARCH $ARCH"
Does anyone know whether GRUB has matur
On 09/26/2017 05:14 PM, Milan Kupcevic wrote:
>> So, it seems that your original suggestion to just enable an ext2 /boot
>> partition is not enough. Yaboot's configuration file also needs to
>> be accessible on a non-ext4 partition.
>
>
> If I remember it right, there should also be a separate ya
On 09/26/2017 05:12 PM, Milan Kupcevic wrote:
> I would say abandon yaboot ASAP. We could keep it on life support for
> the sake of making installer images bootable and for easier transition
> of Mac machines to Grub.
I fully agree.
> That said, if not done already, creation of bootable iso image
Hi Rick and Adrian,
As I've dealt with these things many years ago I'll just try to brain
dump stuff that I still remember.
On 09/26/2017 09:00 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 09/26/2017 11:53 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> But I'm not sure why we should invest time into improv
On 09/26/2017 09:47 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 09/26/2017 03:00 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> I'm still a bit undecided about the ext4 issue with Yaboot. I actually
>> would tend to always use the ext2 /boot partitions for all installations
>> and revert the work-around use
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:45:42PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote:
> I gave it a whirl. I used the same procedure as described in my previous
> report.
>
> The differences I noticed were:
>
> When it got to partitioning I chose (as last time) “guided — use whole disk”.
> It produced a partitioning th
On 09/26/2017 03:00 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
I'm still a bit undecided about the ext4 issue with Yaboot. I actually
would tend to always use the ext2 /boot partitions for all installations
and revert the work-around used for partman-ext3.
Hmm, I just gave that a try and I still get
Hi!
On powerpc systems, Debian-Installer contains the following warning
when trying to set up GRUB as the default bootloader [1]:
"grub-installer/grub_not_mature_on_this_platform ARCH $ARCH"
Does anyone know whether GRUB has matured on powerpc or is it still
considered experimental?
Adrian
On 09/26/2017 11:53 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
But I'm not sure why we should invest time into improving Yaboot. I didn't
even work on my POWER7 system. So, while we would make Yaboot work on
PowerMac G5 computers, it would still be broken on POWER4/5/6/7. Plus,
Yaboot is unmaintained b
I had in past issue with grub on opensuse, i have a G5 970MP.
Adrian make a great present to us, making us have again debian working on BE .
please do not made again it not usable on our hardware choosing grub.
Luigi
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> On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:48 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
>
>
>> On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:20 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
>> wrote:
>>
In this context, I just found this commit [2] which added the /boot
partition. Note
On 09/26/2017 11:48 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
There is precedent for always having an ext2 /boot partition. Any arm system
that uses u-boot needs the filesystem it reads from the be either ext2 or fat.
So the installer creates an ext2 /boot by default.
But we're not talking about ARM and not abou
> On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:20 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
> wrote:
>
>>> In this context, I just found this commit [2] which added the /boot
>>> partition. Note the
>>> additional "$defaultignore{}" designation which apparently means the
>>> partition is not
>>> created in all cases.
>> In lig
On 09/26/2017 11:10 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
If you think it would be helpful, I can do it again but leave the partitioning
alone —
not create an ext2 /boot partition. This would verify (or falsify) Frank’s
observation
that yaboot requires ext2.
Yes, can you please test this? Apparently, the /
On Sep 26, 2017, at 12:07 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
wrote:
> On 09/26/2017 07:45 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
>
>> One other oddity I noticed was that the HFS partition was not labeled
>> “bootstrap” as it has always been in the past.
>> The name does not appear to be necessary, but loosing it
On 09/26/2017 09:07 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> When was that machine installed?
>
> In this context, I just found this commit [2] which added the /boot
> partition. Note the
> additional "$defaultignore{}" designation which apparently means the
> partition is not
> created in all cas
On 09/26/2017 07:45 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
> When it got to partitioning I chose (as last time) “guided — use whole disk”.
> It produced a partitioning that had a 1MB HFS partition marked as bootable,
> but no ext2 partition for /boot.
> Based on Frank’s experience that yaboot couldn’t handle ext4
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