On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> Am I correct in thinking that you don't need hfs compiled into the kernel to
> use these tools? In other words, does it work directly with the partition?
Correct - they open the devnode from userspace, and manipulate the
filesystem image directly, instead
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:41:27AM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
> Say "RTFM" all you want Ethan, but if we keep breaking things like this,
> we will alienate the people whom we are trying to serve.
I think if we keep having the "alt" key *not* be the one with the
letters "ALT" engraved on it, w
on 9/13/01 6:07 PM, Colin Walters at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It is an unfortunate fact of life that people simply don't read
> documentation (there have been studies done), and debconf
I am so tempted to add to this : "Did they have studies about who read the
studies?"
Sorry, couldn't resi
Laurent de Segur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Every time I have been wanting to install a non-free package (unzip,
> zip, etc...) I had to revert back my /etc/apt/sources.list to stable
> vs. testing to be able to access these packages. Is it intended to
> be that way? I would seem that I should
Hi,
Entering 'uname -p' should return 'ppc' but returns 'unknow' running
2.4.8-powerpc with debian/woody.
The uname --version returns >uname (GNU sh-utils) 2.0.11
Any clues on what could be wrong?
Laurent
Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Debian has earned a reputation over the years for having the
> smoothest upgrade by far of all the distros. Do we really want to
> change that?
It is an unfortunate fact of life that people simply don't read
documentation (there have been studies do
I have an iMac I would like to netboot. It has open firmware 3 on it. I
have a server set up with bootp and tftpd. There is an entry in my bootptab
for it like this:
my.domain.name:\
:ht=ether:\
:ha=0050E4960551:\
:sm=255.255.255.0:\
:ip=192.168.1.3:\
:hd=/tftpboot:\
:bf=yaboot:\
:bs=auto:
m
Hi,
Must be a classic, although I stfw and can't find any explanation for this.
Every time I have been wanting to install a non-free package (unzip, zip,
etc...) I had to revert back my /etc/apt/sources.list to stable vs. testing
to be able to access these packages. Is it intended to be that way?
on 9/13/01 4:57 PM, Ethan Benson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> penguinppc has been online for about a week now
in terms of HTML pages, they are fine. In terms of file downloads, dead in
the water (you still get the cutie poster though...) Must be hard coded
broken links all over the place.
L
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 03:47:25PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 11:02:03PM +0200, Otto Wyss wrote:
> > While reading the thread about "HFS Plus on Linux ?" I had a experience I
> > want
> > to share with you.
> >
> > Within a an hour I had to hard reset both of my compute
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 04:35:07PM -0700, Laurent de Segur wrote:
> on 9/13/01 3:33 PM, Michel Dänzer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Laurent de Segur wrote:
> >
> >> I stfw'ed without much success looking for the .deb packages of the
> >> blackdown port of jdk 1.3.1 on linux-powerpc.
> >
> >
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 03:31:34PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 01:20:11PM -0500, Kevin van Haaren wrote:
> > At 5:07 AM -0800 9/13/01, Ethan Benson wrote:
> > >and its this flawed system configuration that has resulted in many
> > >unbootable systems, and why i won't suppor
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 03:30:50PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:49:16AM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 05:07:16AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 06:54:38AM -0500, Kevin van Haaren wrote:
> > > > >mounting it -o rw instead of
on 9/13/01 3:33 PM, Michel Dänzer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Laurent de Segur wrote:
>
>> I stfw'ed without much success looking for the .deb packages of the
>> blackdown port of jdk 1.3.1 on linux-powerpc.
>
> Because there aren't any. Download binary tarballs from
> http://penguinppc.org/us
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 06:31:06PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> Laurent de Segur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Talking of which... Is anyone using one of the journaling fs
> > (Reiser, XFS, JFS) on PowerPC daily and having some comments they
> > would like to report? I was planning on switchi
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 11:02:03PM +0200, Otto Wyss wrote:
> While reading the thread about "HFS Plus on Linux ?" I had a experience I want
> to share with you.
>
> Within a an hour I had to hard reset both of my computers, first my Linux-i386
> due to a complete lockup of the system while using
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 08:15:05PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
>
> Show us how other distros make this transition smoother and we will try to do
> the same.
other distros simply don't have a real upgrade fucntion, you just
reinstall. that is the same as doing a clean boot-floppies install
with d
you are so completly full of shit i won't even reply.
--
Ethan Benson
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
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On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 01:20:11PM -0500, Kevin van Haaren wrote:
> At 5:07 AM -0800 9/13/01, Ethan Benson wrote:
> >and its this flawed system configuration that has resulted in many
> >unbootable systems, and why i won't support the utterly evil hack of
> >mounting an hfs partition on /boot
>
>
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:49:16AM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 05:07:16AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 06:54:38AM -0500, Kevin van Haaren wrote:
> > > >mounting it -o rw instead of -o ro is all thats required.
> > >
> > > Is it a guaranteed thing?
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 02:05:30AM +0200, da bowl wrote:
> I have the same question.
> Does anyone use firewire peripherals on ppc ?
> Hard drive, printers, camera, DV ?
Yes, but they're not working under linux as such.
on my ibook (dual USB) the benh 2.4.9 kernel I rsynced about 3 weeks ago,
has
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 06:40:07PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> At most, I'm not being precise enough in expressing myself here. "old
> style ADB keyboard support" means ADB keyboard support through the
> mac_keyb.c driver, not the HID driver. For all I know this implies ADB
that happened pota
on 9/13/01 3:33 PM, Michel Dänzer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Someone should probably ask those building the i386 .debs if the same could be
> done for powerpc.
Thanks for your pointer.
I will send them an email regarding packaging. I also found out that the
port on ppc is lagging somewhat b
Laurent de Segur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Talking of which... Is anyone using one of the journaling fs
> (Reiser, XFS, JFS) on PowerPC daily and having some comments they
> would like to report? I was planning on switching to ReiserFS or XFS
> for my home dir. Which one, if any, would be the
Laurent de Segur wrote:
> I stfw'ed without much success looking for the .deb packages of the
> blackdown port of jdk 1.3.1 on linux-powerpc.
Because there aren't any. Download binary tarballs from
http://penguinppc.org/usr/java/ . OpenMotif is available in the libmotif
package.
Someone should p
Laurent de Segur wrote:
> Talking of which... Is anyone using one of the journaling fs (Reiser, XFS,
> JFS) on PowerPC daily and having some comments they would like to report? I
> was planning on switching to ReiserFS or XFS for my home dir. Which one, if
> any, would be the most stable?
I poste
I have the same question.
Does anyone use firewire peripherals on ppc ?
Hard drive, printers, camera, DV ?
Thanks
Dabowl
Le 13 Sep 2001 16:39:23 -0400, John Hughes a écrit :
> Is/are any of the recent firewire patches in benh's kernel? Anyone
> know(Ben?)? I am buying a "cheap" web cam(~$100-12
on 9/13/01 2:02 PM, Otto Wyss at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I leave it up to you to draw any conclusion.
I am not sure if we can draw any conclusions from individual and isolated
cases. I found ext2 extremely reliable so far. Most boo boo I had happened
with HFS in the past (but then I was using
Hi,
I stfw'ed without much success looking for the .deb packages of the
blackdown port of jdk 1.3.1 on linux-powerpc.
Although I found on the blackdown mirrors all the debian packages for the
i386 port, the ppc dir seems to be missing. I was wondering if anyone on
this list knows where I could fi
While reading the thread about "HFS Plus on Linux ?" I had a experience I want
to share with you.
Within a an hour I had to hard reset both of my computers, first my Linux-i386
due to a complete lockup of the system while using el3diag, second my powermac
due to an not responding USB-keyboard/-mo
Is/are any of the recent firewire patches in benh's kernel? Anyone
know(Ben?)? I am buying a "cheap" web cam(~$100-120) for modification for use
with a telescope, and am considering getting one of the firewire models
instead of usb.(iBot, ADS PYROcamnothing special).
Speaking of whic
Adam C Powell IV wrote:
> So, no more desktop switching in the console or X, and more importantly,
> no ctrl-alt-f1 from X to the console, and when the mouse freezes (if I
> try to log out and back in), I am dead, and must use my wife's Windoze
> PC to ssh in and kill X/gdm (which is not only emba
On Thursday 13 September 2001 17:00, David N. Welton wrote:
> Jens Schmalzing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Ivan Fabris writes:
> > > see you soon ( free beer for Jens [...] if you come in italy
> >
> > How much beer? And where in Italy do you live exactly?
exactly? 43 54' 33" N an
At 5:07 AM -0800 9/13/01, Ethan Benson wrote:
and its this flawed system configuration that has resulted in many
unbootable systems, and why i won't support the utterly evil hack of
mounting an hfs partition on /boot
well I definitely don't do that. I only mount the hfs partition when
i need
My experience while using hfs volumes under Linux has been mediocre at best.
Mounting ro is ok, but writing files to it is asking for trouble.
If you really have to write to hfs partition, then you should make some hfs
shuttle partition and keep it for that task only. I do a reformat on this
parti
Adam C Powell IV wrote:
>
> Michel Dänzer wrote:
>
> >Michael Schmitz wrote:
> >
> >>Make no mistake: the new input layer is the cleaner of both options, and
> >>having a common set of keytables for both ADB and USB keyboards also makes
> >>things easier in the long run. Plus we better hash this
Michael Schmitz wrote:
>
> > > things easier in the long run. Plus we better hash this out now and come
> > > up with a few solutions for the transition. I just resent breaking
> > > backwards compatibility, that's all.
> >
> > Where exactly do we break backwards compatibility? A knowledgeable use
Michael Schmitz wrote:
> To return to the topic at hand: I had the impression that ADB keycode
> support is removed from current boot-floppies kernels, is that correct?
Yes, because they are the default if enabled, which leads to all kinds of
problems.
--
Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ De
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 05:07:16AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 06:54:38AM -0500, Kevin van Haaren wrote:
> > >mounting it -o rw instead of -o ro is all thats required.
> >
> > Is it a guaranteed thing? I've been mounting a small HFS partition
>
> yes
>
> > and copying
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 02:56:09PM +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> >Ethan, do you have any specific information on when/how HFS was corrupted?
> >What kernel versions?
> >
> >I've heard about this problem for a while, but I haven't seen anything that
> >talked about what specific operations
> > By building kernel packages that have no old style ADB keyboard support
> > anymore? (At least that's what I understood from Ethan's mail.)
>
> you are wrong. i am typing this mail with an ADB keyboard and my
> kernel has no support for using adb keycodes, i am using linux
> keycodes.
At most
Jens Schmalzing wrote:
Hi,
Adam C Powell IV writes:
Now with Linux keycodes, command for alt no longer works, at the
console or in X. [...] For this reason, I have reverted to ADB
keycodes and the macintosh_old keyboard mapping in X,
So you built a whole new kernel just for moving one modif
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> all of your image= lines are wrong. they should be image=/vmlinux
Ahh. Duh. I don't know how that got broken, as I'm pretty sure I
reran ybin before with that configuration.
I guess the MAC-PARTS error kinda threw me off, too.
Jens Schmalzing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> Ivan Fabris writes:
>
> > see you soon ( free beer for Jens [...] if you come in italy
>
> How much beer? And where in Italy do you live exactly?
I'll offer free beer (although I'd recommend the wine - Germany has
plenty of good beer, I im
Hi,
Adam C Powell IV writes:
> Now with Linux keycodes, command for alt no longer works, at the
> console or in X. [...] For this reason, I have reverted to ADB
> keycodes and the macintosh_old keyboard mapping in X,
So you built a whole new kernel just for moving one modifier key
around? The w
Hi,
Ivan Fabris writes:
> see you soon ( free beer for Jens [...] if you come in italy
How much beer? And where in Italy do you live exactly?
Regards, Jens.
--
J'qbpbe, le m'en fquz pe j'qbpbe!
Le veux aimeb et mqubib panz je pézqbpbe je djuz tqtaj!
Has anyone upgraded successfully to libc 2.1.3-19 on potato (proposed-updates)?
Shortly after I upgraded, kswapd segfaulted and things went kinda downhill from
then
on ... even shutdown, sync and init crashed (that reads: inevitable fs damage).
I managed to downgrade libc6 to 2.1.3-18, had a kind
Michel Dänzer wrote:
Michael Schmitz wrote:
Make no mistake: the new input layer is the cleaner of both options, and
having a common set of keytables for both ADB and USB keyboards also makes
things easier in the long run. Plus we better hash this out now and come
up with a few solutions for t
Michael Schmitz wrote:
Or by disabling the old adbmouse driver when HID mouse support is
configured, though both drivers happily coexist? (a kernel source issue,
this one)
Don't give people bad ideas like that, after we're gonna have to answer
Hello? This happened _last_ year ... from 2.3.99
> > Or by disabling the old adbmouse driver when HID mouse support is
> > configured, though both drivers happily coexist? (a kernel source issue,
> > this one)
>
> Don't give people bad ideas like that, after we're gonna have to answer
Hello? This happened _last_ year ... from 2.3.99 or so, the
Michael Schmitz wrote:
things easier in the long run. Plus we better hash this out now and come
up with a few solutions for the transition. I just resent breaking
backwards compatibility, that's all.
Where exactly do we break backwards compatibility? A knowledgeable user can
still use ADB keyco
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 02:33:50PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
>
> By building kernel packages that have no old style ADB keyboard support
> anymore? (At least that's what I understood from Ethan's mail.)
you are wrong. i am typing this mail with an ADB keyboard and my
kernel has no support fo
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 06:54:38AM -0500, Kevin van Haaren wrote:
> >mounting it -o rw instead of -o ro is all thats required.
>
> Is it a guaranteed thing? I've been mounting a small HFS partition
yes
> and copying my kernels to it for boot x for a year. I've not had any
> problems. I don'
>My system has always a 2 GB hfs partition mount in fstab on /hfs/ I have
>run it for months now and yet no problems, I call it my XPlatform
>partition... and as I only have access to internet via SAGEM Planet 3
>ISDN card (In which I have found 0 - zero drivers for under linux) I need
>MacOS to se
>Ethan, do you have any specific information on when/how HFS was corrupted?
>What kernel versions?
>
>I've heard about this problem for a while, but I haven't seen anything that
>talked about what specific operations were performed to create the
corruption.
I can't tell for corruption (well, I did
> >> Ethan, do you have any specific information on when/how HFS was corrupted?
> >
> >when you write to it.
> >
> >> What kernel versions?
> >
> >2.*.*
> >
> >> I've heard about this problem for a while, but I haven't seen anything
> >> that
> >> talked about what specific operations were per
> > things easier in the long run. Plus we better hash this out now and come
> > up with a few solutions for the transition. I just resent breaking
> > backwards compatibility, that's all.
>
> Where exactly do we break backwards compatibility? A knowledgeable user can
> still use ADB keycodes if he
Hello Kevin!
Kevin van Haaren schrieb:
>
> At 12:31 AM -0800 9/13/01, Ethan Benson wrote:
> >On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 06:17:54PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> >>
> >> Ethan, do you have any specific information on when/how HFS was corrupted?
> >
> >when you write to it.
> >
> >> What kernel version
My system has always a 2 GB hfs partition mount in fstab on /hfs/ I have run it
for months now and yet no problems, I call it my XPlatform partition... and as
I only have access to internet via SAGEM Planet 3 ISDN card (In which I have
found 0 - zero drivers for under linux) I need MacOS to send
At 12:31 AM -0800 9/13/01, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 06:17:54PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote:
Ethan, do you have any specific information on when/how HFS was corrupted?
when you write to it.
What kernel versions?
2.*.*
I've heard about this problem for a while, but I hav
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 11:00:31PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I made some modifications to boot-floppies, and I wanted to reboot to
> test them. So I copied the rootpmac.bin to /boot, and reran ybin (for
> no particular reason), and now I can't boot my system with the
> aliases.
>
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 06:17:54PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote:
>
> Ethan, do you have any specific information on when/how HFS was corrupted?
when you write to it.
> What kernel versions?
2.*.*
> I've heard about this problem for a while, but I haven't seen anything that
> talked about what speci
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 12:06:02AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> Anthony Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I've been encoding some of my CD's into Ogg RC2 files using
> > GRIP. ogg123 plays the resulting files fine, but XMMS just produces
> > hiss. i386 version of XMMS plays the same files jus
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