Re: about PowerPc - offtopic

2000-01-10 Thread hughc
Is that only for an iBook, or is it a more generic change? Hugh BenH wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2000, hughc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Of course, if disk-intensiveness is a large part of the compiling > process, you > >probably need to spend a fair amount of time with hdparm before it works a

Re: about PowerPc - offtopic

2000-01-10 Thread BenH
On Mon, Jan 10, 2000, hughc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Of course, if disk-intensiveness is a large part of the compiling process, you >probably need to spend a fair amount of time with hdparm before it works at >it's >best. According to it's built-in benchmarks, disk throughput practically >doub

Re: xfree

2000-01-10 Thread hughc
Is the accelerated XFree86 not available for Debian? On my "Bronze" powerbook, X speed seems to be similar for the two of them... Hugh Shiryu wrote: > There is a server, called Xpmac, that is actually acelerated for ATIcards, > and is not on debian, is damm much faster than the frame buffer >

Re: about PowerPc - offtopic

2000-01-10 Thread hughc
Of course, if disk-intensiveness is a large part of the compiling process, you probably need to spend a fair amount of time with hdparm before it works at it's best. According to it's built-in benchmarks, disk throughput practically doubled on my 400 mhz "Bronze" laptop when I set it to autotune.

Re: xfree

2000-01-10 Thread BenH
On Mon, Jan 10, 2000, Shiryu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >There is a server, called Xpmac, that is actually acelerated for ATIcards, and >is not on debian, is damm much faster than the frame buffer there's a version of xpmac accelerated for the 65550. Ask on the linux-ppc mailing lists, or look at

Re: xfree

2000-01-10 Thread Shiryu
There is a server, called Xpmac, that is actually acelerated for ATIcards, and is not on debian, is damm much faster than the frame buffer On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:03:32 Ivo KRAB wrote: > Sven Luther replied: > >> Could you PLEASE build and package all the servers, not just the FBdev one? > >> The

Re: xfree

2000-01-10 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Ivo KRAB wrote: > Sven Luther replied: > >> Could you PLEASE build and package all the servers, not just the FBdev one? > >> The fbdev is not accellerated for my Powerbook's Chips 65550, but the SVGA > >> one is supposed to be. > > > >No, i will not, i have other things to do.

Re: about PowerPc - offtopic

2000-01-10 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, David Welton wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2000 at 05:17:02AM -0600, Shiryu wrote: > > I have powerbook 333Mhz, and it runs like 1/2 of the speed of my PII > > 400 Mhz, wasnt G3 supose to be much faster? ( I tested compilations > > on Debian, using time command). > > Compiling is n

Re: about PowerPc - offtopic

2000-01-10 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Kevin Puetz wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > Compiling is not a very good way of benchmarking a processor - there > > are too many factors involved... > > Espescially when you throw in the (usually) limited RAM and slow, > low-power-consumption hard drives that laptops u

Re: about PowerPc - offtopic

2000-01-10 Thread Kevin Puetz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Compiling is not a very good way of benchmarking a processor - there > are too many factors involved... Espescially when you throw in the (usually) limited RAM and slow, low-power-consumption hard drives that laptops use.

Re: xfree

2000-01-10 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Mon, Jan 10, 2000 at 05:32:43PM +0100, Ivo KRAB wrote: > Hi, > > Sven Luther wrote: > > >What about providing a full set of macintosh XF86Config in the ppc xfree > >packages ? > > > >I guess there is only a limited set of macintosh video boards around, isn't > >it > >? mostly ATI boards. and

Re: about PowerPc - offtopic

2000-01-10 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Mon, Jan 10, 2000 at 10:57:19AM -0600, David Welton wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2000 at 05:17:02AM -0600, Shiryu wrote: > > > I have powerbook 333Mhz, and it runs like 1/2 of the speed of my PII > > 400 Mhz, wasnt G3 supose to be much faster? ( I tested compilations > > on Debian, using time comma

Re: xfree

2000-01-10 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Mon, Jan 10, 2000 at 08:03:25PM +0100, Alberto Varesio wrote: > > Try contacting Linar Yusupov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, he built a X server ( VGA? > ) on a > Thinkpad 850, it is PPC with S3 video chip and it is IBM, RS/6000, PReP, ... > maybe he did some of the work you are asking for. > If you ma

Re: about PowerPc - offtopic

2000-01-10 Thread Hugh Caley
How do you quantify "1/2 of the speed"? Console scrolling? I know that console is very slow on PPC, mostly because there is no hardware support of text in the Framebuffer (as I understand it). With accelerated X the X server speed is quite good. Have you tested integer and fpu throughput? Hu

Re: xfree

2000-01-10 Thread Ivo KRAB
Sven Luther replied: >> Could you PLEASE build and package all the servers, not just the FBdev one? >> The fbdev is not accellerated for my Powerbook's Chips 65550, but the SVGA >> one is supposed to be. > >No, i will not, i have other things to do. If you provide me with a patch, >then i could do

Re: xfree

2000-01-10 Thread Alberto Varesio
Try contacting Linar Yusupov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, he built a X server ( VGA? ) on a Thinkpad 850, it is PPC with S3 video chip and it is IBM, RS/6000, PReP, ... maybe he did some of the work you are asking for. If you manage to have it packaged inside debian, maybe I'll give it a try in a far (si

Re: about PowerPc - offtopic

2000-01-10 Thread Michel Dänzer
Hugh Caley wrote: > > You're right, and I apologize. "Oops!" > > -- > > I believe the technical term is "Oops!" The sig was generated randomly :) Michel -- The computer revolution is over. The computers won. __ Mich

Re: about PowerPc - offtopic

2000-01-10 Thread David Welton
On Mon, Jan 10, 2000 at 05:17:02AM -0600, Shiryu wrote: > I have powerbook 333Mhz, and it runs like 1/2 of the speed of my PII > 400 Mhz, wasnt G3 supose to be much faster? ( I tested compilations > on Debian, using time command). Compiling is not a very good way of benchmarking a processor - the

Re: about PowerPc - offtopic

2000-01-10 Thread Michel Dänzer
Hugh Caley wrote: > How do you quantify "1/2 of the speed"? Console scrolling? I know that > console is very slow on PPC, mostly because there is no hardware support of > text in the Framebuffer (as I understand it). It depends, e.g. the pm2fb has very fast accelerated scrolling. > Shiryu wrot

Re: about PowerPc - offtopic

2000-01-10 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Jan 10, 2000 at 05:17:02AM -0600, Shiryu wrote: > Hi, > > I have powerbook 333Mhz, and it runs like 1/2 of the speed of my PII > 400 Mhz, wasnt G3 supose to be much faster? ( I tested compilations > on Debian, using time command). > > can someone explain me? I am testing this laptop. is

Re: xfree

2000-01-10 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Mon, Jan 10, 2000 at 07:03:32PM +0100, Ivo KRAB wrote: > Sven Luther replied: > >> Could you PLEASE build and package all the servers, not just the FBdev one? > >> The fbdev is not accellerated for my Powerbook's Chips 65550, but the SVGA > >> one is supposed to be. > > > >No, i will not, i have

Re: xfree

2000-01-10 Thread Ivo KRAB
Hi, Sven Luther wrote: >What about providing a full set of macintosh XF86Config in the ppc xfree >packages ? > >I guess there is only a limited set of macintosh video boards around, isn't it >? mostly ATI boards. and for laptops, we can get the config file directly from >the laptop model, since i

Re: Re: Continuing Annoyances...

2000-01-10 Thread Dänzer
> MD> The depth in X is independent from the one in console (at > MD> least if the fbdev can change modes, which seems to be the > MD> case with yours). Have you tried depth 8 in console? This is > MD> recommended, as the console has only 16 colors anyway. > > I tried this, and, ye

about PowerPc - offtopic

2000-01-10 Thread Shiryu
Hi, I have powerbook 333Mhz, and it runs like 1/2 of the speed of my PII 400 Mhz, wasnt G3 supose to be much faster? ( I tested compilations on Debian, using time command). can someone explain me? I am testing this laptop. is not mine yet, but its a great deal. I apreciated some advice. than

Re: xfree

2000-01-10 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Sat, Jan 08, 2000 at 09:55:57PM -0800, C.M. Connelly wrote: > hans> I forget what the xserver for macs is, but you should be > hans> able to find some info in the xserver-common package. > > Even better for you, you can look on the Web and find some > ready-made XF86Config files that sh

missing stuff :)

2000-01-10 Thread Shiryu
Hi, all. I installed debian on a Powerbook G3. I dist-upgrade it, and ok. have several problems. like, when I created an user, the user was not added to the groups file. And the Xpmac X server is not on Debian. I have a 1969 date, and I dont know with wich util I can fix this. Netscape cant b

Yaboot Installer

2000-01-10 Thread Ethan Benson
Hi, I have written a couple scripts for installing yaboot, Benjamin Herrenschmidt's OpenFirmware bootloader, onto a bootstrap partition (be it a dedicated partition or a MacOS boot partition). The primary purpose of these scripts is to bring the quik/LILO installation procedure over to yaboo