Package: debian-policy
Version: 3.9.8.0
Severity: minor
Hi,
policy 9.1.1 nr 8 and the upgrading checklist still mention that
Packages must not assume that /run exists without a versioned
dependency on initscript "until the stable release of Debian supports
/run".
This language will lure the unob
pt
> in a configurable location, /usr/local/sbin, and /etc).
And I still think that the adapter should be superfluous and the
original API should be expanded.
Greetings
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negiating
it a second time.
Day spoiled.
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ith
> you.
It still saddens me that there is now more than one way to do it,
without any visible trace of trying to improve the method that most
packages use to create their users. What a waste of synergy.
Greetings
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package maintainers.
It is important to have (good!) translations for users, the effort going
into translating developer-only documents should better go in our user's
direction.
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Package: debian-policy
Version: 4.5.0.3
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Hi,
/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/copyright-format-1.0.txt.gz says
|The Copyright field collects all relevant copyright notices for the files
|of this paragraph. Not all copyright notices may apply to every individual
|file, and
are covered.
The Copyright field may contain the original
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On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 01:58:51PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> On Fri 20 Nov 2020 at 03:23PM +01, Marc Haber wrote:
>
> > +Copyright field. It is ok to have years
> > +covered that are not listed in the original notices.
>
> I don't think we can
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 12:30:07PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Marc Haber writes:
> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 01:58:51PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> >> On Fri 20 Nov 2020 at 03:23PM +01, Marc Haber wrote:
>
> >> > +Copyright field. It is ok to have y
the last weeks just to collect copyright stuff
that I would rather have spent with technical work.
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approval of anything]
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ort nor on debian-policy, lets move this discussion to adduser@p.d.o.
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Package: debian-policy
Version: 4.6.0.1
Severity: wishlist
Hi!
Currently, Policy does contain guidelines about system accounts being
created on package installation. It is, however, more reluctant to give
advice about accout deletion on package uninstall and/or purge. In
Addition, the existing ad
Package: debian-policy
Version: 4.6.0.1
Severity: minor
Hi,
9.2.2 distinguishes between
100-999:
Dynamically allocated system users and groups.
and
1000-5:
Dynamically allocated user accounts.
This wording is a bit confusing, but this is probably caused by the
ambiguity between user
t with my
adduser hat on, I will do my best to have those features implemented
before the suggested wording can be included in Policy.
Greetings
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+from the system on purge. See the deluser manual package for details.
+
+// this is not yet implemented in deluser
.. _s9.2.2:
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On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 11:58:31AM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 08:15:37PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> > This is my patch.
>
> I like your patch. :) I just have one comment:
>
> > +``Dynamic local`` allocated ids should by default be arranged in
ould you prefer to do this?
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Nor
On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 03:03:34PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> On Sat 12 Mar 2022 at 03:01PM +01, Marc Haber wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 01:00:44PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> >> Roland Clobus has put a lot of work & thoughts into reproducible images,
> >&g
Package: developers-reference
Version: 12.5
Severity: normal
Hi,
for a few years now, the Debian archive wants to see source-only
uploads. This is not documented in the Developer's Reference and also
now in the New Maintainer's Guide. It should be there.
Also, it should be documented that the fi
ally is a bug in existance.
Greetings
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Hi!
/var/state isn't in the fsstnd, yet it exists on Debian slink. Is
there a text available that states what belongs into /var/state vs.
/var/lib ("application state information")?
Greetings
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On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:28:55 -0500, you wrote:
>On 27-Jun-99, 10:00 (CDT), Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> /var/state isn't in the fsstnd, yet it exists on Debian slink. Is
>> there a text available that states what belongs into /var/state vs.
>> /var/lib
On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:04:19 +0200, you wrote:
>Marc Haber schrieb am Sonntag, den 27. Juni 1999:
>> /var/state isn't in the fsstnd, yet it exists on Debian slink. Is
>> there a text available that states what belongs into /var/state vs.
>> /var/lib ("application sta
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What should the --local option do? If you want adduser to grow this
option, please file a bug.
Greetings
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that is wrong since it means rebuilding
packages to fix bugs in that code.
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the extra getent passwd check and you should be fine.
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where bugs can be handled centrally.
Greetings
Marc
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On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:52:40AM +0100, Nicholas Bamber wrote:
> I am managing a package that does 'userdel' in a purge.
Don't do that, use deluser, if you insist. And even that is dangerous.
Greetings
Marc
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ystem was meant for that.
Greetings
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touch to the package recently
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Package: debian-policy
Severity: normal
Hi,
many packages have to create system accounts on installation.
Unfortunately, Debian policy is not quite clear on how to handle
these. On the other hand, Debian QA is keen on addressing issues in
account handling, which frequently leads to discussions ab
etings
Marc
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On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 12:35:26PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 11:55:39AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> > > It would also alter the existing behaviour of adduser, which is to
> > > return nonzero if the user already exists, which could c
On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 12:42:23PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 12:00:25PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:12:20AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > > * When the package is removed, the user should be locked:
> > > "
On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 10:08:40AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Marc Haber writes:
> > In quite a few packages, the system user's "home" directory might
> > accumulate dotfiles and/or ssh (keys|known_hosts) files, so this
> > decision is not quite easy to take.
ich was
probably skewed. I apologize.
Greetings
Marc
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akes this a
> reasonable thing to do?
The package has a collector and a presenter component and uses
rsync-over-ssh to transfer collected data to the presenter.
Greetings
Marc
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On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 02:29:53PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Marc Haber writes:
> > On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 09:50:37AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> >> I'm not sure that I understand the use case. I've never needed to
> >> create an authorized_key
On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 10:04:45AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Marc Haber writes:
> > On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 02:29:53PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> >> Ah, okay. For that use case, the only thing that you would care about the
> >> user home directory containi
package in a way that
might not be policy compliant and might cause the next RC bug to be
slapped upon me
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which is at least still present on my systemd-pid1-sid
systems, so there is hope.
Greetings
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a keepalived-managed service
to be started on system boot.
Greetings
Marc
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On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 08:44:22PM +, Vesa Paatero wrote:
> On Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:43 PM, Marc Haber
> wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 05, 2015 at 08:27:56PM +, Vesa Paatero wrote:
> >
> > > Now, I am not expecting to get that policy changed just like that but
&g
point in translating.
Greetings
Marc, not a native speaker of English
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On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 08:53:19PM -0200, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
wrote:
> On 01-12-2007 19:53, Marc Haber wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 04:52:16PM -0200, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
> > wrote:
> >>Considering the chance of rewriting the document a
quot;Sicherheits-Gutachten"
would be an appropriate translation for "security advisory".
I stopped wasting my time.
Greetings
Marc, who prefers to volunteer for things that are appreciated.
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ous pain for backporters. I'm opposed.
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Package: packaging-manual
Version: 3.1.1.1
Severity: normal
Packaging Manual 4.2.14 treats stable, unstable, contrib and non-free
as "Distributions", which is no longer true for contrib and non-free.
sources.list(5) calls main, contrib and non-free "components", so I'd
like to see that word in th
Package: debian-policy
Version: 3.1.1.1
Severity: wishlist
The package includes the FHS in ps, dvi and txt. Please consider
adding the HTML version as well. Thanks.
Greetings
Marc
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:21:28 +0100 (CET), Santiago Vila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Marc Haber wrote:
>> Policy 2.5 says that packages must not depend on packages with lower
>> priority values. From what I tried to research, that rule is meant to
>>
when I do a new installation, I expect to uninstall a bunch of
unwanted packages. During an upgrade, I expect that only these new
packages are installed that are really needed. Usually, this is what
Debian does.
Greetings
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ackage that
already has a very prominent place on the supermarket shelf, and I
would like to be allowed to place some helpers on a less prominent
place so that they're not accidentally bought by somebody who does not
want the main product.
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rything non-extra" system.
>Again, I'm sorry for having misrepresented your position.
>Please, excuse me.
No problem. I am not a native speaker and have most probably worded an
unclear proposal.
Greetings
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Package: debian-policy
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Policy 9.2.1 says:
Packages other than base-passwd must not modify /etc/passwd,
/etc/shadow, /etc/group or /etc/gshadow.
This makes, for example, the passwd package RC buggy since useradd
modifies /etc/passwd. Also exim4 is RC buggy since i
ccountHandlingInMaintainerScripts
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No
system, and then recreating a different username for
> a different program with the same uid which shouldn't have access to
> those files
The issue are files on offline media or on NFS shared that were not
mounted at package purge.
Greetings
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ian.net/?EtcMailName as well.
Greetings
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On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 09:46:13PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> Adduser development has regaind momentum, so I see it possible that we
> get the necessary adduser changes in Debian before bookworm so that we
> can, as a second step, amend policy and debhelper.
That obviously didn
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