Bug#707851: Debian Menu Systems : Implementation of the TC decision

2015-09-28 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2015-09-17 at 15:25:54 +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > - Packages can, to be compatible with Debian additions to some window > - managers that do not support the FreeDesktop standard, also provide a > + Applications that are not registered in the desktop m

Bug#792853: debian-policy: please disallow colons in upstream_version

2015-09-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2015-09-28 at 09:21:04 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Charles" == Charles Plessy writes: > > Charles> Le Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 03:17:30PM +0200, Jakub Wilk a > Charles> écrit : > >> * Charles Plessy , 2015-09-24, 21:53: >- > >> : ~ (full stop, plus, hyphen, colon,

Bug#707851: Debian Menu Systems : Implementation of the TC decision

2015-09-29 Thread Guillem Jover
On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 11:39:47 +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le mardi, 29 septembre 2015, 02.10:01 Guillem Jover a écrit : > > Wow, this is such terrible policy… So we have supporters of the XDG > > format, and supporters of the menu format. Some of those would an

Bug#707851: Debian Menu Systems : Implementation of the TC decision

2015-09-29 Thread Guillem Jover
On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 15:13:28 +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le mardi, 29 septembre 2015, 14.34:35 Guillem Jover a écrit : > > W/o anyone to implement this in the menu programs, this is just > > wishful thinking, and might leave big chunks of our users with > >

Bug#707851: Debian Menu Systems : Implementation of the TC decision

2015-09-30 Thread Guillem Jover
(Obviously whenever you say you are out of a discussion or will not reply anymore there's some compelling reason to do otherwise…) On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 18:05:02 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Guillem Jover wrote: > You seem to be framing this as a XDG vs menu formats.

The role of the TC (was Re: Bug#707851: Debian Menu Systems : Implementation of the TC decision)

2015-10-02 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi Sam! I have very low tolerance for what I perceive as unjust. The mere existence of the TC and any of its invocations implies (to me) an instance of constitutionally sanctioned injustice and imbalance in the project, in addition of increased deterioration of the project's social fabric. In thi

Bug#813471: network access to the loopback device should be allowed

2016-02-02 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2016-02-02 at 20:46:03 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Severity: normal > > Bug #770016 "Clarify network access for building packages in main" > was about not downloading files via network. This created new lines in > 4.9 as: > > | For packages in the main archiv

Bug#821363: debian-policy: Allow line-end comments in all Debian packaging control files

2016-04-19 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 14:52:22 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Severity: normal > Control: tags -1 patch > The specification of Debian control files in Policy §5.1 says: > > Lines starting with # without any preceding whitespace are > comments lines that are only

Bug#821363: debian-policy: Allow line-end comments in all Debian packaging control files

2016-04-20 Thread Guillem Jover
[ Switching from d-p@l.d.o to the bug so that the thread is tracked. ] On Wed, 2016-04-20 at 11:23:19 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Guillem Jover writes: > > On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 14:52:22 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > > What is the rationale for explicitly disallowing line-end com

Bug#821363: debian-policy: Allow line-end comments in all Debian packaging control files

2016-04-20 Thread Guillem Jover
[ Also redireting to the bug report. ] On Wed, 2016-04-20 at 11:29:05 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Guillem Jover writes: > > In the case of the copyright file, the document specifying it does not > > list # as valid comment markers. > > When we were drafting that spec

Bug#821365: debian-policy: Clarify which characters constitute the syntax of control files

2016-04-20 Thread Guillem Jover
From e80ec0774a3f95b31b18a4843d1ee10cae019031 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Guillem Jover Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 10:43:13 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] man: Clarify what characters constitute the syntax of deb822 syntax Based-on-a-patch-by: Ben Finney --- man/deb822.5 | 38 +-

Bug#823256: debian-policy: Update maintscript arguments with dpkg >= 1.18.5

2016-05-02 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.9.8 Severity: normal Hi! Starting with dpkg 1.18.5, several maintainer script actions involving a new package version, get that version as an argument after the old version, because they could not get it in any other easy way. The new version was only available i

Re: PIE + bindnow for Stretch?(Re: Time to reevaluate the cost of -fPIC?)

2016-05-17 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2016-05-15 at 21:45:55 +0200, Bálint Réczey wrote: > 2016-05-15 20:49 GMT+02:00 Niels Thykier : > > Bálint Réczey: > >> I think making PIE and bindnow default in dpkg (at least for amd64) would > >> be > >> perfect release goals for Stretch. > > > > I support the end goal, but I suspe

Re: PIE + bindnow for Stretch?(Re: Time to reevaluate the cost of -fPIC?)

2016-05-17 Thread Guillem Jover
On Tue, 2016-05-17 at 12:08:09 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > I'm not a fan myself for turning on hardening flags in the compiler itself, > but if you do that, then dpkg issues like https://bugs.debian.org/823869 > need to be addressed (whether all obscure build systems picking these up, or > not).

Bug#830989: debian-policy: Typos "the the" in "4.4 Debian changelog: debian/changelog" and "8.6.3.2 The symbols File Format"

2016-07-13 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2016-07-13 at 17:08:31 +0200, Valentin Samir wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Severity: minor > Tags: patch > Reading the debian policy for the first time, I notice two minor typos where > 'the' > is repeated. > > The first time in §4.4: > "+ or - is the the time zone o

Re: Source version in .changes

2007-07-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 00:49:13 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Section 5.6.1 of the DPM states: > > "In a main source control information, a .changes or a .dsc file this may > > contain only the name of the source package. > > In the control f

Bug#442134: Inconsistency/typo: half-configured vs. failed-config

2007-09-14 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 14:59:11 +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > Package: debian-policy > > The description of Pre-Depends in section 7.2 says that half-configured > packages can satisfy pre-dependencies. However, chapter 6 does not mention > that package state. Instead, it talks about "Failed-Con

Re: Debian policy manual CVS address?

2007-11-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 19:59:20 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > [...] Is there a specification > somewhere for the Vcs-* fields for arch repositories? I remember a > discussion, but I don't remember the conclusions. If someone could point > me at the specification or even just send me the corre

Bug#379150: Documentation for Breaks in dpkg

2008-01-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Tue, 2008-01-01 at 13:46:58 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Package: debian-policy > > Version: 3.7.2.1 > > Severity: wishlist > > Tags: patch > > > > As I report in #379140 (against dpkg), I have implemented Breaks in > > dpkg. The attached patch i

Bug#430649: New proposed wording for DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

2008-01-07 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 19:23:58 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Okay, here's a revised proposal to address both Bug#209008 (parallel) and > Bug#430649 (DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS parsing). This proposal does the following: > --- orig/policy.sgml > +++ mod/policy.sgml > + > + debian/rules and

Bug#452105: debian-policy: Homepage field in debian/control undocumented

2008-01-07 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 12:37:14 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > When I try that, I get: > > > > dpkg-source: warning: unknown information field 'Homepage' in input data in > > package's section of control info file > > ... > > dpkg-genchanges: warnin

Bug#440420: [PROPOSAL] Manual page encoding

2008-01-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 12:29:35 +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 02:37:48PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 10:28:12PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > I propose that policy should standardise that we mo

Bug#458910: debian-policy: Policy and dpkg disagree on debian revision tests.

2008-04-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Sun, 2008-04-27 at 19:04:44 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Here is a proposed patch that also clarifies the comparison of version > numbers a bit. Seconds? > > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index 1c9a339..b7ac92e 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -2877,19 +2877,

Bug#426877: dpkg: Option "--oknodo" should be the default behaviour for "start-stop-daemon" (LSB specs)

2008-07-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 01:47:39 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > I think being LSB compliant is good for Debian. > > The LSB init script specification *is a specification for the init scripts > of LSB packages*. It has NOTHING to do with LSB compliance of LSB > implementations. Debian is an

Bug#163666: debian-policy: Unclear result with [arch] and |

2008-07-05 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 17:09:48 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Bug#163666 against debian-policy points out that arch-specific build > dependencies are unclearly specified in Policy currently in the presence > of alternatives. The current wording says: > > All fields that specify build-time

Bug#416450: [PROPOSAL] New option in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS to avoid running test-suites

2008-07-05 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 14:01:26 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Guillem Jover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'd like to propose to formalize a new option («nocheck») in > > DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS to make the build skip running any test-suites. > > > > This h

Bug#241333: Mandate UTF-8 for changelog files

2008-07-05 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 18:40:38 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The reason why I dropped the RFC reference is that there are multiple > > references to UTF-8 all over Policy these days and I don't really want > > to footnote all of them. I'm not sure the

Bug#473019: debian-policy: clarification needed for "local" builtin exception for /bin/sh

2008-07-05 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 13:31:20 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I observe that > > > > a) POSIX specifies the behavior of 'export' and 'readonly' > > b) Implementation of 'local' is often very similar to 'export' and > > 'readonly' > >and in the absen

Bug#489460: remove alternative changelog formats from main Policy manual

2008-07-05 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 16:33:49 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Currently, Policy contains section 4.4.1, which documents the possible > > use of alternative changelog formats. I don't think this section is > > useful or relevant; I think the chances of

Bug#479080: debian-policy: Policy '3.8 Essential packages' does not explain when/why essential is neccessary

2008-08-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 13:50:29 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Here's a proposed clarification of the current Policy language around > Essential. Comments, feedback, seconds? > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index c9bd84f..d0dc2dc 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -9

Re: Debian version numbers and strcmp()

2009-01-23 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 15:19:40 +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > I'd like to hear from members of this list what they think about the > following issue: I just noticed that to determine whether two Debian > versions are equal, one can't use strcmp() or similar, and must > implement the full compar

Bug#163666: debian-policy: Unclear result with [arch] and |

2009-01-26 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2009-01-25 at 15:20:02 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > I finally found some time to write new proposed wording for the section in > Policy on handling architecture-restricted dependencies. Could you review > this change and be sure that I'm correctly describing the situation? I > added

Bug#446712: debian-policy: document comments in debian/control

2009-02-02 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 08:39:38 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Julien Cristau writes: > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 18:46:54 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > dpkg has supported comments (ignoring lines starting with #) in > > > debian/control since 1.10.11. We should at least consider documenting

Re: Bug#446712: [PATCH] Allow comments in debian/control (bug#446712)

2009-03-01 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 22:07:36 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -2450,6 +2450,14 @@ Package: libc6 > See for details. > > > + > + In addition to the control file syntax described + id="controlsyntax">above, this fi

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-04-12 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 05:08:38 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > how about: > > The installation of files into subdirectories of > /usr/X11R6/is now prohibited. Include files Missing space before the “is”. > should be installed into /usr/include/X11/. For >

Bug#521810: debian-policy: Document user defined fields starting with X-

2009-04-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 12:03:09 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: > > If you're going to standardize a prefix that's purely for private, > > internal use and will never, ever be standardized in any fashion, could I > > convince you (and Nils) to use a pref

Re: Bug#521810: debian-policy: Document user defined fields starting with X-

2009-04-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 01:10:20 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > Nils Rennebarth writes: > > > > Usually, unknown fields are iggnored by the debian packaging system. To > > > > avoid conflicts of user d

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-05-03 Thread Guillem Jover
[ BCCed debian-dpkg for the proposed dpkg changes. ] Hi! On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 21:04:30 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > we have an unfortunate situation where the practice in dpkg-buildpackage > and the policy do not match fully. Ok, had finally the time to read and think about this. I've to say

Bug#527871: Update information about DEB_*_ARCH variables

2009-05-08 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.8.1.0 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch Hi! Recommend using the DEB_*_ARCH_CPU and DEB_*_ARCH_OS variables instead of the GNU style ones. And mention that the latter are mostly intended for use with upstream build systems, and not Debian packaging. regards, guillem

Bug#521810: debian-policy: Document user defined fields starting with X-

2009-05-16 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 12:11:04 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Guillem Jover wrote: > > Another option could be to add a new modifier, like P(rivate) or > > U(ser), to be used like XPBS-Field: which would preserve the X-. But > > then you need a new enoug

Re: Architecture Field

2009-06-23 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 09:55:45 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Jonathan Yu writes: > > I ask because the terminology sounds ambiguous -- the OS part is > > "sometimes" elided, as when the OS is Linux. But that doesn't > > necessarily mean that a missing OS part means the OS is assumed to be > >

Bug#533852: debian-policy: Allow Binary field to span over multiple lines

2009-06-23 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 16:29:48 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > > --- a/policy.sgml > > +++ b/policy.sgml > > @@ -3276,7 +3276,9 @@ Package: libc6 > > commas > > A space after each comma is conventional. > > . C

Bug#530687: debian-policy: Please provide policy for architecture wildcards

2009-06-23 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 18:50:42 -0400, Andres Mejia wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.8.1.0 > Severity: wishlist > Tags: patch > Support for architecture wildcards has been added to dpkg-1.13.13, yet there's > no clear policy as to how architecture wildcards should be used for other

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-24 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 21:02:53 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I don't remember if there's a bug filed asking for inclusion of the > Vcs-* fields already. If there isn't and you feel like tracking this > down, a bug that has a pointer to the specification would be great, or a > proposed specific

Bug#534408: debian-policy: Installed-Size is defined as "kilobytes" but dpkg-gencontrol fills it in with kibibytes

2009-06-24 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 22:25:15 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > > I would change: > > "It gives the total amount of disk space required to install the named > > package." > > to > > "It gives an indicative amount of disk space required to install the > > nam

Bug#539389: 10.9.1 contains wrong sentence about postrm usage

2009-07-31 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 13:58:29 +0200, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.8.2.0 > Severity: normal > 10.9.1 The use of dpkg-statoverride states: > > "The corresponding dpkg-statoverride --remove calls can then be made > unconditionally when the package is purged."

Bug#533852: debian-policy: Allow Binary field to span over multiple lines

2009-08-07 Thread Guillem Jover
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 13:33:57 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Raphaël Hertzog writes: > > > In response to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=494714 I > > would like that the policy be updated to allow the Binary field in .dsc > > and .changes to span over multiple lines. > > Sorry a

Bug#538665: debian-policy: "Info documents" section is outdated

2009-08-09 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 15:37:56 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Here's a proposed update to the Policy section on info documents. I'm > looking for feedback or seconds. > > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index ffc721f..2a8934a 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -8846,3

Re: Policy 3.8.3 release

2009-08-12 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 15:21:33 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Particularly given the info file change, I think we've now accumulated > enough stuff in Git to warrant another Policy release. There are a few > other things in flight, but as before we can always pick those up in the > next release

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 13:03:13 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Open questions: > * Can we require a one-to-one correspondance between binary package names > and debug package names that provide symbols for that binary package? I > think we should; I think it would make the system more strai

Bug#541872: debian-policy: identical notation for disabled-by-user and auto-generated entries in /etc/inetd.conf

2009-08-19 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 23:34:11 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > Once that's in place, packages can then start providing the fragments > in /etc/inetd.d. At this point, there won't be any use of the > generated file(s), but we can verify it's all working correctly. > Once done, the inetds can start

Bug#470633: Explicitly say obsolete configuration files may be removed

2009-09-09 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 14:42:46 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Manoj Srivastava writes: > > > This bug has not been looked at for a while. The wiki article: > > states: > > ,[ http://wiki.debian.org/DpkgConffileHandling ] > > | If you completely remove a configuration file, you

Re: Informative addendum to policy clarifying dpkg/maintainer script interface

2009-10-29 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 20:01:00 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Wed, Oct 21 2009, Frank Küster wrote: > > Thank you, that looks very useful. What I'm missing, however, is any > > reference to debconf's config script. Isn't that called by dpkg, too? > > Hmm. There are three diffe

Re: [PATCH 1/1] Use the "Failed-Config" state instead of the synonymous halfconfigured

2009-11-21 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 00:38:12 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > These terms are synonyms. dpkg and dselect use halfconfigured > internally and Failed-config when talking to the user. This patch > ensures that policy uses the same term as dpkg does when talking to > the user ("Failed-Config") f

Re: [PATCH 1/1] Use the "Failed-Config" state instead of the synonymous halfconfigured

2009-11-22 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 19:00:28 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 00:38:12 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > These terms are synonyms. dpkg and dselect use halfconfigured > > internally and Failed-config when talking to the user. This patch > > ensures that

Re: [Piuparts-devel] Unclear failure for asclock (left over files in /var)

2009-11-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! [ CCing man-db as Colin is probably the best person to get feedback from on this. ] On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 10:22:40 +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Mittwoch, 25. November 2009, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > > Package purging left files on system: > > /var/cache/man/pt not owned > > /va

Bug#562506: init scripts should not use set -e

2009-12-25 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2009-12-24 at 16:07:48 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.8.3.0 > Severity: minor > Currently, Debian Policy makes a general statement that all Bourne shell > scripts should start with set -e and does not (so far as I can see) make > an exception for init

Re: [PATCH 1/1] Use the "Half-Configured" state instead of the synonymous "Failed-Config"

2009-12-27 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 22:01:30 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > These terms are synonyms. dpkg and dselect use halfconfigured > internally and used to use Failed-config when talking to the user in > soe cases. This patch ensures that policy uses the same term as dpkg > does when talking to the

Bug#562863: Extend description of filesystem namespace clashes

2009-12-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.8.3.0 In the first paragraph in §10.1 (Binaries), there's a description of when is and is not appropriate to have a filename clash for binaries, and what to do if such situation arises. I think this needs to be extended and generalized to include several other ca

Re: does /var/games have to be deleted on purge? (if it's empty..)

2010-01-05 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 17:39:48 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Don Armstrong writes: > > On Mon, 04 Jan 2010, Holger Levsen wrote: > >> On Montag, 4. Januar 2010, Russ Allbery wrote: > >>> * It's sometimes necessary to purge a package and reinstall it to > >>> fix some weird problem, or if not

Re: Limiting non-build-time relationships to a set of architectures?

2010-02-19 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! [ CCing #400322 for the additional data. ] On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 20:25:11 +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Frans Pop (09/02/2010): > > On Tuesday 09 February 2010, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > > Frans Pop (09/02/2010): > > > > This format is not (yet) allowed by policy: rootskel-gtk > > > > (>

Bug#578852: prohibit usage of Breaks for file conflicts

2010-04-25 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 10:51:56 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.8.4.0 > Severity: normal > to test the actual behaviour of dpkg for this situation I created the > following 5 packages: [...] > Test 1 > == > > I start with version 1 installed and u

Bug#562506: init scripts should not use set -e

2010-06-02 Thread Guillem Jover
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 10:42:35 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Here is proposed wording, which hopefully reflects the subsequent > discussion. I'm looking for seconds. > > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index d16df70..1871d4c 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -6011,7 +601

Re: [PATCH] bug530687-srivasta: Support for architecture wildcards

2010-06-02 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 13:28:30 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Manoj Srivastava writes: > > + > > + Specifying a list of architecture wildcards indicates that > > +the source will build an architecture-dependent package on > > +the union of the lists of archite

Re: [PATCH] bug530687-srivasta: Support for architecture wildcards

2010-06-02 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 00:06:39 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 13:28:30 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Manoj Srivastava writes: > > > + > > > + Specifying a list of architecture wildcards indicates that > > > +t

Bug#224509: Don't require a TTY during maintainer script execution

2010-06-03 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 12:51:33 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Julien Cristau writes: > > what does this change mean for essential packages that want to prompt > > the user when debconf isn't available? E.g. libc6.postinst tries to use > > debconf, and if that's not available and $DEBIAN_FRONTEND !=

Bug#224509: Don't require a TTY during maintainer script execution

2010-06-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 09:34:32 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I'm looking for seconds or further discussion if people don't believe that > this is the right direction to go. > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index af00c0e..3f6b82d 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -35

Bug#530687: [PATCH] bug530687-srivasta: Support for architecture wildcards

2010-06-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 09:56:30 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Okay, here's another try at this patch that removes some extraneous > information that it sounds like we shouldn't get into, from this message > and your other message, and tries to simplify the wording to address the > issue raised i

Bug#530687: [PATCH] bug530687-srivasta: Support for architecture wildcards

2010-06-03 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 13:09:38 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Guillem Jover writes: > > On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 09:56:30 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> > >>In the main debian/control file in the source > >> - package, this field may co

Bug#555977: debian-policy: Constraints on binary package control files

2010-07-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! Here's a review from a non-native speaker. On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 17:40:49 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index bad28af..3d5334d 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -804,6 +804,35 @@ > in the .deb file format. > > > +

Bug#402721: Please make clear, that "conflicts" should only be used when really necessary

2010-07-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 13:28:26 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Tobias Frost writes: > > Looking at #262257, as an exampple, there are packages which declares > > conflicts for whatever reason. However, the reason is NOT, that thec > > packages could not co-existent on the same system (For the ex

Bug#400322: Limiting non-build-time relationships to a set of architectures?

2010-07-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 22:26:27 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > If this already works, we should document it, since it can be quite > useful. Here's an attempt at wording. Please check this and make sure > that I'm correctly documenting what works. > > Do architecture restrictions work with Pro

Bug#445203: debian-policy: 10.8. Log files: /etc/logrotate.d/ preferred

2010-07-08 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 08:59:24 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I propose the following patch for this bug instead in order to get it > clear of this discussion. We can always go back and sort out whether it > should use invoke-rc.d after we work through the other bug. > > Does this look okay? >

Bug#184064: debian-policy: [PROPOSAL] Every window manager should provide an alternative to the x-window-manager.1 manpage

2010-07-17 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 18:36:50 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Here, many years later, is a proposed patch implementing that, omitting > www-browser because it's not (yet) documented by Policy and adding > x-terminal-emulator. > > Objections or seconds? > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml

Bug#589609: debian-policy: No substvars for dpkg-source and dpkg-genchanges.

2010-07-19 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 17:03:21 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > t a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index 0b3c1a1..597100e 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -2190,10 +2190,9 @@ endif > Variable substitutions: debian/substvars > > > - When dpkg-gencontrol, > -

Bug#218897: Explicitily disallow adding local diversion by package

2010-08-25 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 10:30:50 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index 9fe7158..c7f2a4e 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -1214,9 +1214,11 @@ > > > > - You should not use dpkg-divert on a file > - belonging to an

Bug#594542: debian-policy: add descriptions for main, contrib, and non-free archive areas

2010-08-27 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 18:16:21 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Charles Plessy writes: > > Actually, with the release of GNU/kFreeBSD variants for Squeeze, this > > paragraph is not totally accurate. > > That's a very good point. Yeah, I was about to comment on just that but then I saw Charles

Bug#594656: debian-policy: Refer generically to the Debian distribution

2010-08-27 Thread Guillem Jover
rical. regards, guillem >From 4d13fa337774fc540b87e4e607bdb04e7ee94a83 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Guillem Jover Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 08:11:28 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] Refer generically to Debian instead of the GNU/Linux instance --- debian-menu-policy.desc |2 +- debian-mime-pol

Bug#594658: debian-policy: Add FHS exception for GNU/Hurd directories

2010-08-28 Thread Guillem Jover
d the footnote might need to be clarified probably. regards, guillem >From 199ea60ca6e9a879f043fba7a588e71ad241468d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Guillem Jover Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:00:17 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] Add FHS exception for GNU/Hurd top-level directories --- policy.sgml |9

Bug#594658: debian-policy: Add FHS exception for GNU/Hurd directories

2010-09-01 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 12:57:50 +1200, Andrew McMillan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 17:05 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Our footnote system is not great, so I'd keep it as one footnote. I agree > > with putting GNU/Hurd first, but I'd like to keep the structure of listing > > the exceptions

Re: Source architecture field?

2010-11-25 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 16:25:35 +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > In #509702, Philipp Kern says that a particular package's list of > architectures should be specified in the source stanza of the control > file, not in the binary packages' descriptions, to avoid any attempt > to build the package

Re: Source architecture field?

2010-11-25 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 19:51:17 +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 07:45:16PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > > On 11/25/2010 07:18 PM, Guillem Jover wrote: > > > On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 16:25:35 +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > >> In #509702, Phili

Re: Dropping/splitting (proper) i386 support

2003-05-06 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 06:27:05PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > After the 486, Intel always provided a method to determine the CPU type and > features available. As far as I can tell, there's no easy programmatic way > to tell the difference between a (old, no CPUID) 486 and an (old, no

Bug#148194: debian-policy: Clarification needed regarding multi-line fields

2006-03-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.6.2 Hi, Definitions === I'll define «physical line» as the stream of bytes ending with an EOL character (usually '\n', but it could be DOS style as well). «multi line» as one or more physical lines with the following ones starting with at least a space.

Bug#359817: debian-policy: dpkg-gencontrol now uses -isp by default

2006-03-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.6.2.2 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch Hi, As of dpkg version 1.13.16, dpkg-gencontrol now uses -isp by default, thus including the Section and Priority fields in the generated binary debian control files. Attached a patch. regards, guillem diff -Naur debian-poli

Bug#148194: Policy amendment to permit multi-line fields in debian/control

2006-04-18 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 17:04:17 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I have proposed a modification for Policy that will permit wrapping in the > following fields in debian/control: > > Depends Recommends Suggests Enhances Pre-Depends Conflicts > Provides Replaces Build-Depends Build-Depends-I

Bug#374029: Fixing inconsisten and unusefull Build-Depends/Conflicts definition

2006-06-18 Thread Guillem Jover
On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 23:10:36 +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Severity: normal > [Side note: Buildds/dpkg-buildpackage has no robust way of telling if > the optional build-arch field exists and must call build. This is > wastefull for both build dependencies and build ti

Re: binNMU safe and ${binary:Version} or ${source:Version}

2006-10-13 Thread Guillem Jover
[ Found this today on the web archives. ] Hi, On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:11:23 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: > The documentation for this probably belongs in debian-policy; current > versions of policy seem to mention Source-Version, though, not the new > substvars, and I'm not sure if anyone has submi

Re: binNMU safe and ${binary:Version} or ${source:Version}

2006-10-16 Thread Guillem Jover
On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 10:01:08 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 04:13:07AM +0300, Guillem Jover wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:11:23 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: > > > The documentation for this probably belongs in debian-policy; current > > >

Re: Please review Policy change for ~ in versions

2006-11-06 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi Russ, On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 18:50:26 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Could you please review the following patch to Debian Policy to document > the use of ~ in version numbers and confirm that this matches dpkg's > behavior? I'd like to get this into Policy since it's already in > widespread use

Bug#209008: debian-policy: [PROPOSAL] common interface for parallel building in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

2007-03-20 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 18:08:52 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Bug #209008 proposed to have a common interface to tell packages to do > parallel building (make -j). > For some reason, the discussion that happened back in 2003 isn't logged > on the BTS, but can be read in [2]. Everyone seemed to agr

Bug#209008: Honoring MAKEFLAGS instead of adding new env vars?

2007-03-21 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 17:57:57 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > Can't we simply allow passing MAKEFLAGS in the env of debian/rules > instead of defining new vars? That does not help if upstream's build system is not based on make. regards, guillem -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wit

Bug#416450: [PROPOSAL] New option in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS to avoid running test-suites

2007-03-27 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.7.2.2 Severity: wishlist I'd like to propose to formalize a new option («nocheck») in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS to make the build skip running any test-suites. This helps for example when doing iterations of patching, building and testing, until you want to do the final

Bug#418444: debian-policy: recommend binary:Version substvar instead

2007-04-09 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.7.2.2 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch Hi, Starting from dpkg 1.13.19 the substvar Source-Version is deprecated, and it should be replaced by either binary:Version or source:Version which have clearer defined semantics. The policy is currently recommending the old

Bug#241333: policy mentions that changelogs should be utf-8; this is a bug

2007-05-26 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 04:09:51 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:02:52 -0600 (CST), Adam Heath said: > > This is not supported by any tool in debian. > > Control files are ascii, 7-bit, period. And, when generating the > > .changes for an upload, the changelog is includ

Bug#268377: Bug#291939: Support for arch aliases (Was: Split System/Cpu for architecture handling)

2005-01-24 Thread Guillem Jover
x- linux-i386 i386 any-any any I've a added as well a new option (-n normalize) to dpkg-architecture so Maintainers can use it to get the alias expansions. Try it to see the results. regards, guillem Package: dpkg Version: 1.10.26 Author: Guillem Jover <[EMAIL

Bug#268377: Bug#291939: Support for arch aliases

2005-01-24 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 11:45:24AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Guillem Jover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The idea is to introduce architecture aliases, they will only take > > effect on the source package and will get expanded when building > > the bi

Bug#268377: Bug#291939: Support for arch aliases

2005-01-24 Thread Guillem Jover
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 03:50:17PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Guillem Jover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On another thread, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Could we automatically define some @linux@ or @any-i386@ variables the > >> same way sh

Bug#268377: Bug#291939: Support for arch aliases (Was: Split System/Cpu for architecture handling)

2005-01-30 Thread Guillem Jover
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 12:05:34AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Guillem Jover wrote: > > The idea is to introduce architecture aliases, they will only take > [...] > > > I've a added as well a new option (-n normalize) to dpkg-archi

Bug#963524: debian-policy: Binary and Description fields not mandatory in .changes on source-only uploads

2023-09-10 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2023-09-10 at 10:30:41 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > diff --git a/policy/ch-controlfields.rst b/policy/ch-controlfields.rst > index 4bab7df..904fa52 100644 > --- a/policy/ch-controlfields.rst > +++ b/policy/ch-controlfields.rst > @@ -812,10 +812,11 @@ See :ref:`s-descriptions` for furth

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