How to do -dbg packages right?

2001-03-03 Thread Kai Henningsen
I'm right now working on the gnustep-base family of packages, and Lintian does not seem to think the -dbg package is right: W: gnustep-base0-dbg: non-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink usr/lib/GNUstep/System/Libraries/ix86/linux-gnu/gnu-gnu-gnu-xgps/libgnustep-base_d.so.0.9.1 usr/lib/GNUstep/System/L

Re: Package documentation

2001-03-03 Thread Richard Braakman
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 11:34:09PM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: > > That would be a reason *not* to put it in policy, at least until we > > consider the reasons for such a refusal. Policy is supposed to > > encode the things we do agree on. > > That's not true, and it never was. Policy chan

Bug#88111: policy should not dictate implementation details

2001-03-03 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 12:38:33PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Wichert wrote: > > > I highly object to complicant the interface to debian/rules. > > Anthony wrote: > > > But, uh, isn't that what you're doing? > > No, because allowing non-makefile rules files wouldn't require any changes > > to

Re: Bug#88029: allow rules file to be non-makefile

2001-03-03 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 01.03.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>"Alex" == Alexander Hvostov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Alex> It can be done the easy way, or the hard way. What you described is > the Alex> hard way. Why can't it be done the easy way? > > If people r

Re: Bug#88029: allow rules file to be non-makefile

2001-03-03 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Josip Rodin) wrote on 01.03.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > These two things aren't demanded by Policy AFAICT, it just so happens that > they're possible to be done. Had we used perl or shell as rules file > previously, there would be similar things that would be made nonstandard

Re: Bug#88029: allow rules file to be non-makefile

2001-03-03 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 02:48:00PM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: > > These two things aren't demanded by Policy AFAICT, it just so happens that > > they're possible to be done. Had we used perl or shell as rules file > > previously, there would be similar things that would be made nonstandard by > >

Bug#88029: allow rules file to be non-makefile

2001-03-03 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Josip Rodin) wrote on 28.02.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I would like to propose that the debian/rules file is allowed to be > non-makefile. Any kind of a program that can do the required stuff can be a > debian/rules file. We shouldn't prohibit it when someone e.g. writes a sh

Bug#88029: allow rules file to be non-makefile

2001-03-03 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Santiago Vila) wrote on 28.02.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > > > I would like to propose that the debian/rules file is allowed to be > > > non-makefile. Any kind of a program that can do the required stuff can > > > be a debian/

Bug#88111: policy should not dictate implementation details

2001-03-03 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wichert Akkerman) wrote on 01.03.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'll make this a proposal then: > > Section 5.2 of policy currently dictates that debian/rules has to be > a makefile. While this is good practice, the only thing that is essential > is that it is an executable

Bug#88029: allow rules file to be non-makefile

2001-03-03 Thread Gergely Nagy
Thus spoke Kai Henningsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 2001-03-03 14:33:00: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Josip Rodin) wrote on 28.02.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I would like to propose that the debian/rules file is allowed to be > > non-makefile. Any kind of a program that can do the required stuff can be

Bug#88029: allow rules file to be non-makefile

2001-03-03 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 04:14:45PM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: > It would make the Policy consistent. Currently, it allows maintainer scripts > to be anything you would like. The only thing that is required is that they > must be proper executables. They can even be binaries. Then why does the > Pol

Re: Bug#88111: policy should not dictate implementation details

2001-03-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Wichert" == Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Wichert> But Manoj said he would remove the non-policy bits from it, and this Wichert> would clearly fall in that category imho. I disagree. Wichert> I'll make this a proposal then: Wichert> As such I propose that t

Re: Package documentation

2001-03-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Oliver" == Oliver Elphick writes: Oliver> I think that all documentation must reflect the Debian Oliver> locations of configuration and other files, and that manpages Oliver> and the like should be altered as necessary to achieve this. Oliver> Comments? Indeed, incorrect document

Bug#88029: allow rules file to be non-makefile

2001-03-03 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 04:14:45PM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: > It would make the Policy consistent. Currently, it allows maintainer scripts > to be anything you would like. The only thing that is required is that they > must be proper executables. They can even be binaries. Then why does the > Pol