Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Anthony Towns wrote: > I can assure you I had a lot less time to do stuff like fiddle with the > BTS when I was trying to get potato released. And I can assure you I was doing a lot more work on new things while still working on the potato release than I am doing now. Wichert. -- _

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, May 09, 2002 at 08:02:04PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 07:17:12PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > Debian development is asynchronous. > > That's a nice idea in theory. > It just to be true before we had testing. I can as

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 07:17:12PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > Debian development is asynchronous. > > That's a nice idea in theory. It just to be true before we had testing. Wichert. --

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 07:17:12PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 12:12:16AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 10:08:51AM -0400, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > I don't care about now, I care about the next release, or the release > > > after that. > >

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-08 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > No, the same functionality is _NOT_ served by tags. Like it or > not, our bug listing are done by severity, and shoving policy > violation into a tag degrades the importance of not violating > policy. No. The web frontend considers certain t

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 12:12:16AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 10:08:51AM -0400, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > I don't care about now, I care about the next release, or the release > > after that. > > Then how about you spend a moment thinking about it from _my_ perspective

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-06 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 12:12:16AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 10:08:51AM -0400, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > I don't care about now, I care about the next release, or the release > > after that. > > Then how about you spend a moment thinking about it from _my_ perspective

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 10:08:51AM -0400, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > I don't care about now, I care about the next release, or the release > after that. Then how about you spend a moment thinking about it from _my_ perspective and stop whining until the next release or the release after that. Yeesh

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-04 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 06:34:32PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Think about it for a while from any perspective but a hurd hacker's for > heavens sake. I have thought about it from all perspectives, from the release managers perspective specifically. > Think about what should get the highest pr

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-04 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 10:16:09AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > And, why should the severity only be useful for the release manager, and > released architectures? Think about it for a while from any perspective but a hurd hacker's for heavens sake. Think about what should get the highest pri

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-04 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 04:05:39PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 05:27:30PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:16:32PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 07:15:09PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > > > Seems to me that if bug seve

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-04 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 05:27:30PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:16:32PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 07:15:09PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > > Seems to me that if bug severity is orthagonal to release criticality > > People keep saying that,

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-03 Thread Grant Bowman
OK, I'll bite. * Anthony Towns [020503 08:38]: > On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 07:15:09PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Seems to me that if bug severity is orthagonal to release criticality > > People keep saying that, but it's not true [0]. I think you and Joey are saying the same thing if you read h

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-03 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 09:32:25AM -0700, Grant Bowman wrote: > * Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020503 09:21]: > > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:16:32PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > There may be subtle differences between the meanings of the various > > > terms, but they are *very* strong

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-03 Thread Grant Bowman
* Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020503 09:21]: > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:16:32PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > There may be subtle differences between the meanings of the various > > terms, but they are *very* strongly correlated, which is right at the > > other extreme from orthogonal

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-03 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:16:32PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 07:15:09PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Seems to me that if bug severity is orthagonal to release criticality > > People keep saying that, but it's not true [0]. "Release critical bugs" > are those that are ser

[OT] oh dear [was Re: The Serious severity]

2002-05-03 Thread Richard Smedley
Anthony Towns wrote: > ``BAM! Science triumphs again!'' > -- http://www.angryflower.com/vegeta.gif You know I really wish I hadn't looked at that straight after lunch (even though it was all vegetable matter :-) - Richard /me gets back to work and vows never to follow

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-03 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 07:15:09PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Seems to me that if bug severity is orthagonal to release criticality People keep saying that, but it's not true [0]. "Release critical bugs" are those that are serious, grave or critical. "Bugs that will stop the release of that package

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-02 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 07:15:09PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > No, the same functionality is _NOT_ served by tags. Like it or > > not, our bug listing are done by severity, and shoving policy > > violation into a tag degrades the importance of not violating > > pol

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-02 Thread Branden Robinson
t; severity does, for while there would be a one-to-one correspondence between the tag and this meaning, there is no such correspondence between the serious severity and egregious Policy violations at present. Or perhaps you're forgetting the other half of "serious": "or, in the

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-02 Thread Joey Hess
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > No, the same functionality is _NOT_ served by tags. Like it or > not, our bug listing are done by severity, and shoving policy > violation into a tag degrades the importance of not violating > policy. Seems to me that if bug severity is orthagonal to release cri

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-02 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 04:12:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Gotcha. Your humor detector is on the blink. Ah, I see. So was the part where you called me a hypocrite a joke or not? -- G. Branden Robinson|A committee is a life form with six Debian GNU/Linux

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Branden> On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 03:10:34PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Strawman. Branden> ? I don't see how. >> The rationale I presented argues for creating a severity to use for >> violations of policy. The point was to

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-02 Thread Branden Robinson
everity minutes after I signed off to go to bed I don't see how that attitude helps anyone. Surely people do not need your permission to discuss the utility of the "serious" severity? -- G. Branden Robinson|If a man ate a pound of pasta and a Debian GNU/Linux

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
existence >> was of the severity was called into question, and no one seemed to >> remember the rationale for it. Branden> You appear to have overlooked the fact that neither aj nor I Branden> felt that the serious severity should be removed, therefore Branden> most of yo

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-02 Thread Branden Robinson
remember the rationale for it. You appear to have overlooked the fact that neither aj nor I felt that the serious severity should be removed, therefore most of your complains are off the mark, IMO. Since you want to drag this out in the public forum of debian-policy, I'll post some relevant hunk