Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-29 Thread Britton
On 28 Oct 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Britton" == Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Britton> Good individuals will almost invariably harbor a few bad > Britton> individual ideas, for whatever reason. This is especially > Britton> true in the technical fields. The process ap

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Britton" == Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Britton> Good individuals will almost invariably harbor a few bad Britton> individual ideas, for whatever reason. This is especially Britton> true in the technical fields. The process appears to be Britton> sufficiently democratic that this

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-28 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 27.10.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Use the power for people who voted for him --- (bruce > supports his constituency by giving people *yet* more unpaid work and > responsibilitites. Darn. That doesn't work. Bruce takes away juicy > packages

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-28 Thread Britton
> Britton> What I like about the term limits idea is that they permit > Britton> authority to be rotated around regularly with no hard > Britton> feelings anywhere. I would feel bad voting Bruce out of > Britton> office after all the work he has done. Term limits make > Britton> change automatic

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-28 Thread Glenn Amerine
> "M" == M W Blunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] M> Actually, term limits are not very common. I hoped to show M> exactly what you have concluded; term limits are not needed by M> Debian. We agree here. Sorry, I should have read closer. [snip] M> Again, not a yes or

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-28 Thread Glenn Amerine
> "Britton" == Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] Britton> Heck, I'd vote for Bruce if he ran for President. Mayby Britton> this isn't what you were saying though. I'd vote for him to. [snip] Britton> What I like about the term limits idea is that they Britton> pe

RE: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-28 Thread George Bonser
On 27-Oct-97 Richard G. Roberto wrote: > I fear > that I've come to a conclusion that may bring a fair bit of > flame mail my way, but Dave Cinege has to be dealt with. We > must revoke his license to victimize the community at large. There is an expression in the US ... you have the right to sw

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-28 Thread George Bonser
On 28-Oct-97 Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > You think the congress can put together a distribution like > Debian? > > manoj Yes ... and they would call it Slacklaw.

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"M" == M W Blunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: M> On 27 Oct 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> What problems are term limits supposed to solve, exactly? M> They prevent the voters from re-electing someone that due to his M> entrenchment in the system, has more power than a freshman would M>

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Britton" == Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Britton> What I like about the term limits idea is that they permit Britton> authority to be rotated around regularly with no hard Britton> feelings anywhere. I would feel bad voting Bruce out of Britton> office after all the work he has don

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Britton" == Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Britton> I actually like this proposal. I have no problem with Bruce, Britton> he has done a gret job. I just don't see the point in making Britton> the process of succession so competitive. The limits need Britton> not be short. Richards

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Richard" == Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard> M W Blunier wrote: >> On 27 Oct 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> > >> > What problems are term limits supposed to solve, exactly? >> They prevent the voters from re-electing someone that due to his >> entrenchment in th

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-28 Thread Britton
On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Glenn Amerine wrote: > > "M" == M W Blunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > M> On 27 Oct 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> What problems are term limits supposed to solve, exactly? > > M> They prevent the voters from re-electing someone that due to > M

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-28 Thread M W Blunier
On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Glenn Amerine wrote: > > "M" == M W Blunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > M> On 27 Oct 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> What problems are term limits supposed to solve, exactly? > > M> They prevent the voters from re-electing someone that due to > M>

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-28 Thread Glenn Amerine
> "M" == M W Blunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: M> On 27 Oct 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> What problems are term limits supposed to solve, exactly? M> They prevent the voters from re-electing someone that due to M> his entrenchment in the system, has more power than a fr

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-27 Thread Richard Braakman
M W Blunier wrote: > On 27 Oct 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > > > What problems are term limits supposed to solve, exactly? > > They prevent the voters from re-electing someone that due to his > entrenchment in the system, has more power than a freshman would > have. Greedy and self se

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-27 Thread M W Blunier
On 27 Oct 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > What problems are term limits supposed to solve, exactly? They prevent the voters from re-electing someone that due to his entrenchment in the system, has more power than a freshman would have. Greedy and self serving voters vote for the incumba

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-27 Thread Britton
On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: > On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Richard G. Roberto wrote: > > [snip] > > PROPOSAL FOR TERM LIMITS > > > > I propose that all elected posts in the Debian organization > > be subject to the following term limits: I actually like this proposal. I have no pr

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-27 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Richard G. Roberto wrote: [snip] > PROPOSAL FOR TERM LIMITS > > I propose that all elected posts in the Debian organization > be subject to the following term limits: [snip] So, Richard. Are you ready to commit a lot of your private time to becoming project leader for a yea

Re: On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I think term limits may not be the panacea that people think they are. 1) Unlike general elections, incumbents do not have more money to spend than challengers 2) Unlike general elections, incumbents do not get more into the constituents eye (any body can mail on the lists

On Bruce Perens and Dave Cinege, etc.

1997-10-27 Thread Richard G. Roberto
Sorry to have come into this so late, but I was tuned in to a different soap opera ;) This is not the first time someone has requested that Bruce be "impeached" or removed from his post as project leader, or president, or whatever it is currently. This is the first time Dave Cinege has done it.