Bug#99933: Bug#174982: [PROPOSAL]: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded

2003-01-08 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 10:23:14AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 04:29, Denis Barbier wrote: > > Uploading packages with UTF-8 control fields is not ok. It will simply > put, not work for anyone who's not using a UTF-8 terminal, which is > unfortunately probably most of our

Bug#99933: Bug#174982: [PROPOSAL]: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded

2003-01-08 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 11:58, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 10:23:14AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > [...] > > It looks to me like at this point almost everyone agrees with the > > content of my proposal in #99933, and we are discussing implementation > > details. Agreed? > > No.

Bug#99933: Bug#174982: [PROPOSAL]: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded

2003-01-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 14:22, Jochen Voss wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 10:23:14AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > It looks to me like at this point almost everyone agrees with the > > content of my proposal in #99933, and we are discussing implementation > > details. Agreed? > > I

Bug#99933: Bug#174982: [PROPOSAL]: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded

2003-01-07 Thread Jochen Voss
Hello, On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 10:23:14AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > It looks to me like at this point almost everyone agrees with the > content of my proposal in #99933, and we are discussing implementation > details. Agreed? I do STRONGLY DISAGREE with ... Programs included in Debian

Bug#99933: Bug#174982: [PROPOSAL]: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded

2003-01-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 05:58:31PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > I was unclear, and only speaking about files shipped by Debian packages > which contain non-ASCII characters without specifying their encoding. > Users can do whatever they want with their data. > I have almost txt, man and info pages

Bug#99933: Bug#174982: [PROPOSAL]: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded

2003-01-07 Thread Denis Barbier
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 10:23:14AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: [...] > It looks to me like at this point almost everyone agrees with the > content of my proposal in #99933, and we are discussing implementation > details. Agreed? No. We agree that UTF-8 support must be dramatically improved, but

Bug#99933: Bug#174982: [PROPOSAL]: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded

2003-01-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 04:29, Denis Barbier wrote: > > but unless someone starts actually _using_ UTF-8, we would never know > > which tools are broken and which are not (I already found one bug > > in handling of UTF-8 GPG alias - I'll file the bugreport after some more > > testing). Testing our

Bug#99933: Bug#174982: [PROPOSAL]: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded

2003-01-07 Thread Denis Barbier
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 10:29:33AM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: [...] > A similar approach could be considered for deb control files, a new > mandatory Encoding field must be added to debian/control (and automatically > put in other files when needed), which tells encoding used by all control > file

Bug#99933: Bug#174982: [PROPOSAL]: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded

2003-01-07 Thread Denis Barbier
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 09:29:44AM +0100, Radovan Garabik wrote: [...] > > > > #99933 goes a lot farther than #174982. First of all, we can't even > > > > suggest that people use UTF-8 in package control fields until all our > > > > tools support it. Right now it is just plain broken to put anyth

Bug#99933: Bug#174982: [PROPOSAL]: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded

2003-01-07 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 01:24:26PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 11:45, Radovan Garabik wrote: > > > > #99933 goes a lot farther than #174982. First of all, we can't even > > > suggest that people use UTF-8 in package control fields until all our > > > tools support it. Rig

Bug#99933: Bug#174982: [PROPOSAL]: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded

2003-01-05 Thread Michael Bramer
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 01:41:47PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > On Sun, 2003-01-05 at 11:07, Michael Bramer wrote: > > > The DDTP has no problmes with UTF-8 in control fields. Some maintainer > > use UTF-8 or something else with 'some translations' in the descriptions. > > > > This is not nice.

Bug#99933: Bug#174982: [PROPOSAL]: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded

2003-01-05 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, 2003-01-05 at 11:07, Michael Bramer wrote: > The DDTP has no problmes with UTF-8 in control fields. Some maintainer > use UTF-8 or something else with 'some translations' in the descriptions. > > This is not nice. > > The policy should be: use normal ACSII and UTF-8 encoding if you use

Bug#99933: Bug#174982: [PROPOSAL]: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded

2003-01-05 Thread Michael Bramer
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 02:36:16AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > [ CC'd to the Debian Description Translation Project maintainer, as he > may be interested ] thanks > On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 13:24, Colin Walters wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 11:45, Radovan Garabik wrote: > > > > > > #99933 goes

Bug#99933: Bug#174982: [PROPOSAL]: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded

2003-01-05 Thread Colin Walters
[ CC'd to the Debian Description Translation Project maintainer, as he may be interested ] On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 13:24, Colin Walters wrote: > On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 11:45, Radovan Garabik wrote: > > > > #99933 goes a lot farther than #174982. First of all, we can't even > > > suggest that people

Bug#99933: Bug#174982: [PROPOSAL]: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded

2003-01-03 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 11:45, Radovan Garabik wrote: > > #99933 goes a lot farther than #174982. First of all, we can't even > > suggest that people use UTF-8 in package control fields until all our > > tools support it. Right now it is just plain broken to put anything but > > ASCII in them. >