On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 10:23:14AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 04:29, Denis Barbier wrote: > > Uploading packages with UTF-8 control fields is not ok. It will simply > put, not work for anyone who's not using a UTF-8 terminal, which is > unfortunately probably most of our users at the moment. Just Don't Do > It. > > If you really want to help push UTF-8, apply my dpkg patch, help > find/fix bugs in it, then start ensuring apt-get, aptitude, etc., all > grok UTF-8.
That is what I am doing now. (Except the dpkg patch which I am going to play with if I find some time) > > > [Could this discussion take place on debian-i18n?] > > Actually I think we should probably move to -devel, given how strongly > this affects the system in general. Even people who maintain programs I lost count how many times I already had this discussion on -i18n, -devel and whatever else. The consensus was ALWAYS "OK, that is nice but just wait until the tools support UTF-8, and besides, I do not care about it". So we waited and waited until RedHat (much as I dislike RH, I applaud their effor for switching into UTF-8) and it is no longer a question of making the "proper" progressive decisions, but a questions of not falling back too much when compared with RH. > which care little for i18n will still have to deal with UTF-8 filenames, > and should be UTF-8 aware in general. > > It looks to me like at this point almost everyone agrees with the > content of my proposal in #99933, and we are discussing implementation > details. Agreed? > I would like to. Though I am not sure about others. > > > A similar approach could be considered for deb control files, a new > > mandatory Encoding field must be added to debian/control (and automatically > > put in other files when needed), which tells encoding used by all control > > files. Dpkg and friends may then perform automatic conversion (to UTF-8 or > > to current user's locale) if desired. > > Ugh. I am generally quite opposed to adding an Encoding field, and I > bet you'll find the dpkg maintainers are too. It should just be UTF-8, > period. If developers really want to, they can generate control from a > control.in file by using iconv or similar. I completely agree. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- | Radovan Garabík http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/ | | __..--^^^--..__ garabik @ melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk | ----------------------------------------------------------- Antivirus alert: file .signature infected by signature virus. Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature file to help me spread!
