Re: packages affected list for must changes to policy (was: Re: Bug#91257: [PROPOSED] changes to X font policy)

2001-03-28 Thread Steve Greenland
On 27-Mar-01, 23:57 (CST), Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 09:35:36AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > > Encouraging I could agree with, particularly when the check could be > > automated against the Packages file. But even an automated check against > > the maintainer scripts is no

Re: packages affected list for must changes to policy (was: Re: Bug#91257: [PROPOSED] changes to X font policy)

2001-03-28 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 09:35:36AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 25-Mar-01, 04:26 (CST), Anthony Towns wrote: > > If you create a "must" directive, then you've just created a reason to > > have a number of extra RC bugs. Indeed, that's the only point of making > > it a "must" instead of a "s

Re: packages affected list for must changes to policy (was: Re: Bug#91257: [PROPOSED] changes to X font policy)

2001-03-26 Thread Steve Greenland
On 25-Mar-01, 04:26 (CST), Anthony Towns wrote: > If you create a "must" directive, then you've just created a reason to > have a number of extra RC bugs. Indeed, that's the only point of making > it a "must" instead of a "should". The point of making a "must" requirement is that the consequence

Re: packages affected list for must changes to policy (was: Re: Bug#91257: [PROPOSED] changes to X font policy)

2001-03-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 09:39:56PM +1000, Jason Parker wrote: > Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > * Anthony Towns [010325 02:30]: > > > There's 6720 packages in sid/i386 at the moment, btw, not 8458. > > Thanks for the correction. At ten seconds per package, this is still > > nearly nine

Re: packages affected list for must changes to policy (was: Re: Bug#91257: [PROPOSED] changes to X font policy)

2001-03-25 Thread Jason Henry Parker
Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Anthony Towns [010325 02:30]: > > There's 6720 packages in sid/i386 at the moment, btw, not 8458. > Thanks for the correction. At ten seconds per package, this is still > nearly nineteen hours though. Luckily we have these marvellous contraptions calle

Re: packages affected list for must changes to policy (was: Re: Bug#91257: [PROPOSED] changes to X font policy)

2001-03-25 Thread Seth Arnold
* Anthony Towns [010325 02:30]: > If you're not going to bother filing the RC bugs, there's no reason > not to leave it as a "should". If you are going to file the RC bugs, > then someone's got to figure out which packages it applies to at some > point anyway. This makes sense if one assumes that

Bug#91257: PROPOSED] changes to X font policy

2001-03-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 04:44:37AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > Why would dosemu need to be removed from the distribution? > > Because that's what violating a "must" directive *means*. It's the sole > > difference between "should" and "must": either's a bug, but if it's a > > "must" the pac

Re: packages affected list for must changes to policy (was: Re: Bug#91257: [PROPOSED] changes to X font policy)

2001-03-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 01:46:59AM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote: > * Anthony Towns [010325 01:11]: > > BTW, I'm inclined to think it'd be a good idea for people who want to add > > a "must" requirement (or to change a should to a must) to include a list of > > packages that would need to be removed fr

Bug#91257: PROPOSED] changes to X font policy

2001-03-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 07:21:29PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 04:18:55AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 07:04:53PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > Certainly, having split packages would make it *easier* to cope with this, > > > and that's a g

packages affected list for must changes to policy (was: Re: Bug#91257: [PROPOSED] changes to X font policy)

2001-03-25 Thread Seth Arnold
* Anthony Towns [010325 01:11]: > BTW, I'm inclined to think it'd be a good idea for people who want to add > a "must" requirement (or to change a should to a must) to include a list of > packages that would need to be removed from the distribution due to the > change. Anyone agree/disagree? Whil

Bug#91257: PROPOSED] changes to X font policy

2001-03-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 04:18:55AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 07:04:53PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Certainly, having split packages would make it *easier* to cope with this, > > and that's a good reason to make it policy, but it's not enough of a reason > > to re

Bug#91257: PROPOSED] changes to X font policy

2001-03-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 07:04:53PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Certainly, having split packages would make it *easier* to cope with this, > and that's a good reason to make it policy, but it's not enough of a reason > to remove dosemu from the distribution. IMO. Why would dosemu need to be remov

Re: Bug#91257: [PROPOSED] changes to X font policy

2001-03-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 07:07:40PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 03:08:30AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > * Some rewording to reflect the new must/should/may policy. > > BTW, I'm inclined to think it'd be a good idea for people who want to add > a "must" requirement (o

Bug#91257: PROPOSED] changes to X font policy

2001-03-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 03:57:37AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 06:29:47PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 03:08:30AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > * Some rewording to reflect the new must/should/may policy. > > This seems like a good idea,

Re: Bug#91257: [PROPOSED] changes to X font policy

2001-03-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 03:08:30AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > * Some rewording to reflect the new must/should/may policy. BTW, I'm inclined to think it'd be a good idea for people who want to add a "must" requirement (or to change a should to a must) to include a list of packages that would

Bug#91257: PROPOSED] changes to X font policy

2001-03-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 06:29:47PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 03:08:30AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > * Some rewording to reflect the new must/should/may policy. > > > - Fonts of any type supported by the X Window System > > - should be be in a

Bug#91257: PROPOSED] changes to X font policy

2001-03-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 03:08:30AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > * Some rewording to reflect the new must/should/may policy. > - Fonts of any type supported by the X Window System > - should be be in a separate binary package from any > - executables, librari

Bug#91257: [PROPOSED] changes to X font policy

2001-03-25 Thread Branden Robinson
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.2.0 Severity: wishlist * Reflects changes in policy due to issues Anton Zinoviev pointed out with mkfontdir; we now require packages to invoke "update-fonts-dir" instead of calling mkfontdir directly. This means that all commands that maintainer scripts i