> "Wouter" == Wouter Verhelst writes:
Wouter> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 07:56:03AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> > "Wouter" == Wouter Verhelst writes:
>>
>>
Wouter> So, I'm with Guillem on this one.
>>
>>
Wouter> But _forbidding_ maintainers who want to f
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 07:56:03AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "Wouter" == Wouter Verhelst writes:
>
>
> Wouter> So, I'm with Guillem on this one.
>
>
> Wouter> But _forbidding_ maintainers who want to from shipping a
> Wouter> second file, if that somehow makes the experienc
Le mardi, 13 octobre 2015, 07.52:55 Sam Hartman a écrit :
> >> Le mardi, 13 octobre 2015, 08.55:07 Wouter Verhelst a écrit:
> >> But _forbidding_ maintainers who want to from shipping a second
> >> file, if that somehow makes the experience of menu users better
> >> than what the fdo menu would hav
> "Wouter" == Wouter Verhelst writes:
Wouter> So, I'm with Guillem on this one.
Wouter> But _forbidding_ maintainers who want to from shipping a
Wouter> second file, if that somehow makes the experience of menu
Wouter> users better than what the fdo menu would have given th
> "Didier" == Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes:
Didier> Le mardi, 13 octobre 2015, 08.55:07 Wouter Verhelst a écrit
Didier> :
>> But _forbidding_ maintainers who want to from shipping a second
>> file, if that somehow makes the experience of menu users better
>> than what the f
Le mardi, 13 octobre 2015, 08.55:07 Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
> But _forbidding_ maintainers who want to from shipping a second file,
> if that somehow makes the experience of menu users better than what
> the fdo menu would have given them? Sorry, but that seems petty and
> silly.
For context, th
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:39:47AM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Le mardi, 29 septembre 2015, 02.10:01 Guillem Jover a écrit :
> > Wow, this is such terrible policy… So we have supporters of the XDG
> > format, and supporters of the menu format. Some of those would and
> > have accepted file
Hi Sam!
I have very low tolerance for what I perceive as unjust. The mere
existence of the TC and any of its invocations implies (to me) an
instance of constitutionally sanctioned injustice and imbalance in
the project, in addition of increased deterioration of the project's
social fabric.
In thi
I'm happy to engage in a constructive discussion with members of the
project on the advantages and disadvantages here.
The few times you and I have talked in person we've had useful
conversations and I think we learned from each other.
However, I need to be met with respect and a desire for unders
(Obviously whenever you say you are out of a discussion or will not
reply anymore there's some compelling reason to do otherwise…)
On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 18:05:02 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Guillem Jover wrote:
> You seem to be framing this as a XDG vs menu formats. I see it in
>
Guillem Jover wrote:
You seem to be framing this as a XDG vs menu formats. I see it in great
part as applications showing up on WM/DE or not. The collateral damage
from the TC decision are applications, WM/DE and its users from either
format.
Only if WMs keep on u
On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 15:13:28 +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Le mardi, 29 septembre 2015, 14.34:35 Guillem Jover a écrit :
> > W/o anyone to implement this in the menu programs, this is just
> > wishful thinking, and might leave big chunks of our users with
> > inaccessible applications. On
Le Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 03:25:25PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit :
>
> I noticed you committed this typo of mine to the git repository, sorry
> for that:
>
> Le jeudi, 17 septembre 2015, 15.25:54 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit :
> > + Applications that are registred in the desktop m
Hi Charles,
I noticed you committed this typo of mine to the git repository, sorry
for that:
Le jeudi, 17 septembre 2015, 15.25:54 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit :
> + Applications that are registred in the desktop menu shall
---^
Cheers,
OdyX
sig
Le mardi, 29 septembre 2015, 14.34:35 Guillem Jover a écrit :
> Which contains the requirements for the XDG entry, one of those being
> the icon. If the upstream part does not contain a suitable icon, then
> removing the XDG entry and any relevant icon shipped in the debian/
> directory makes the a
On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 11:39:47 +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Le mardi, 29 septembre 2015, 02.10:01 Guillem Jover a écrit :
> > Wow, this is such terrible policy… So we have supporters of the XDG
> > format, and supporters of the menu format. Some of those would and
> > have accepted files of
Le Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 09:24:20AM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit :
>
> For what I'm concerned, at least for the "cherry-picking" part of the TC
> decision, please go ahead.
Commited and pushed!
I attached a consolidated patch that summarises the changes.
Cheers,
--
Charles Plessy
Tsuru
Le mardi, 29 septembre 2015, 02.10:01 Guillem Jover a écrit :
> Wow, this is such terrible policy… So we have supporters of the XDG
> format, and supporters of the menu format. Some of those would and
> have accepted files of their non-preferred format in their packages,
> some have outright refuse
Le mardi, 22 septembre 2015, 13.47:31 Charles Plessy a écrit :
> Le Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:27:53AM -0400, Sam Hartman a écrit :
> > Hi. I've been debating how to respond to the shall vs must thing.
> > The short answer is that there are reasons why you might prefer
> > shall, but I find that I'd
On Thu, 2015-09-17 at 15:25:54 +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
>
> - Packages can, to be compatible with Debian additions to some window
> - managers that do not support the FreeDesktop standard, also provide a
> + Applications that are not registered in the desktop m
> "Charles" == Charles Plessy writes:
Charles> Le Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:27:53AM -0400, Sam Hartman a
Charles> écrit :
>> Hi. I've been debating how to respond to the shall vs must
>> thing. The short answer is that there are reasons why you might
>> prefer shall, but I
Le Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:27:53AM -0400, Sam Hartman a écrit :
> Hi. I've been debating how to respond to the shall vs must thing. The
> short answer is that there are reasons why you might prefer shall, but I
> find that I'd rather say "must is good enough," than try and come up
> with an artic
Hi. I've been debating how to respond to the shall vs must thing. The
short answer is that there are reasons why you might prefer shall, but I
find that I'd rather say "must is good enough," than try and come up
with an articulate presentation of the energy which would conclude by
saying that if
Le Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 03:25:54PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit :
> >
> I'm hereby proposing the following diff for point 2, as a discussion
> starter:
>
> diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml
> index ee1e9f4..83e4057 100644
> --- a/policy.sgml
> +++ b/policy.sgml
> @@ -8192,14 +8192,18
Control: severity -1 important
Hi all,
As you have certainly seen on debian-devel-announce [0], the Technical
Committee has ruled on the question of Debian Menu Systems, and the
technical decision should now find a form within the Debian Policy.
First, the commit designed in the aforementionned
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