Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 08:46:10AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > Added a sentence in README-contrib. Thank you very much. By the way, while browsing the PTS for the link to the Subversion repository to read the sentence, I noticed that the Vcs-Browser URL is broken with the current Alioth

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog writes: > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Russ Allbery wrote: >> The 15th Edition was published in 2003. Since then, my personal >> impression is that opposition to generic "he" has hardened considerably >> and opposition to singular "they" has weakened somewhat. Using "he" as >> a generic

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Russ Allbery wrote: > The 15th Edition was published in 2003. Since then, my personal > impression is that opposition to generic "he" has hardened considerably > and opposition to singular "they" has weakened somewhat. Using "he" as a > generic pronoun for a person of in

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 26 Jun 2012, Charles Plessy wrote: > before it is too late. I also would like to add that it is a bit of a > slippery > slope to use "seconded" statements as votes instead of indications that the > discussion has ended on a conclusion, as it is done with the Policy, where > this > method

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-25 Thread Russ Allbery
To summarize briefly up-front, I also concur that singular they is the best solution to the gendered pronoun problem available to us right now and agree with the patch provided. Charles Plessy writes: > Anyway, my point was that the URLs pointed by Steve and Cyril clearly > indicate that the use

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-25 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 09:00:53PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > On Sat, 23 Jun 2012, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Attached is a corrected patch, which fixes the verb agreement issue above > > and makes a few other tweaks (e.g., not introducing passive tense where it's > > not needed, which is

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Sat, 23 Jun 2012, Steve Langasek wrote: > Attached is a corrected patch, which fixes the verb agreement issue above > and makes a few other tweaks (e.g., not introducing passive tense where it's > not needed, which is worse than the original problem it aims to fix), and > also catches a few

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-24 Thread Simon McVittie
On 24/06/12 01:52, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Looks good to my froggy eyes. > > Seconded. Also seconded. (I'm a native en_GB speaker, for what it's worth.) >> Index: developer-duties.dbk >> === >> --- developer-duties.dbk (revisio

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-23 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Steve Langasek (23/06/2012): > Attached is a corrected patch, which fixes the verb agreement issue above > and makes a few other tweaks (e.g., not introducing passive tense where it's > not needed, which is worse than the original problem it aims to fix), and > also catches a few more gender-speci

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-23 Thread Steve Langasek
Per, thanks for bringing up this issue. On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 08:13:04AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > To honour the recent vote on diversity [0] please make the developers > > reference gender neutral. > > [0] http://www.debian.org/vote/2012/vote_002 > I think that our technical documents

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-23 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Charles Plessy (24/06/2012): > I think that our technical documents should be easy to read for > non-native speakers, and the modification that you propose mixes > singular and plural forms in a way that, as far as I know, is not > taught to students who learn the English language. I personally f

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-23 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:10:51AM +0200, Per Andersson a écrit : > > To honour the recent vote on diversity [0] please make the developers > reference gender neutral. > > [0] http://www.debian.org/vote/2012/vote_002 Dear Per, I think that our technical documents should be easy to read for non-

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-23 Thread Per Andersson
Package: developers-reference Version: 3.4.7 Severity: normal Tags: patch Dear Maintainer, To honour the recent vote on diversity [0] please make the developers reference gender neutral. [0] http://www.debian.org/vote/2012/vote_002 See attached patch for a proposed update on the subject. Bes