On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 01:39:22PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> > If a package expects logrotate to be present, as shown by it providing
> > an /etc/logrotate.d/* file, then it can express this to the packaging
> > system by putting "logrotate" in its Depends: field...
>
> Obviously. This wasn't
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 08:16:48PM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 03:35:44AM +, Steve Haslam wrote:
> > > Strictly speaking, there are no "log" files managed in
> > > cron.daily/standard. There are status files that are regenerated daily,
> > > with backups managed using
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 04:10:45AM +, Steve Haslam wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 11:13:11PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> > Let's say cron's maintainer decides to convert
> > /etc/cron.daily/standard to use logrotate, in concordance with the
> > current policy manual.
>
> Which he's said is
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 03:35:44AM +, Steve Haslam wrote:
> > Strictly speaking, there are no "log" files managed in
> > cron.daily/standard. There are status files that are regenerated daily,
> > with backups managed using savelog because it's convenient. I don't
> > think logrotate would quit
On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 11:13:11PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> Let's say cron's maintainer decides to convert
> /etc/cron.daily/standard to use logrotate, in concordance with the
> current policy manual.
Which he's said isn't likely. Hmm...
> So he makes cron Depend on logrotate, requiring logr
On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 11:21:23PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 11-Jan-00, 17:13 (CST), Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Let's say cron's maintainer decides to convert
> > /etc/cron.daily/standard to use logrotate, in concordance with the
> > current policy manual.
>
> Strictly
On 11-Jan-00, 17:13 (CST), Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let's say cron's maintainer decides to convert
> /etc/cron.daily/standard to use logrotate, in concordance with the
> current policy manual.
Strictly speaking, there are no "log" files managed in
cron.daily/standard. There are
On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 10:05:52PM +, Steve Haslam wrote:
> > So to my way of thinking, no logs should be rotated if there isn't a
> > logrotate package installed. If there is one or not is up to the
> > administrator, though I strongly suggest one...
>
> So all packages that rotate their log
On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 01:53:50PM -0800, Seth R Arnold wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 09:37:23PM +, Steve Haslam wrote:
> > My position, FWIW, is that packages should depend on logrotate unless
> > they provide a method of rotating the logs when logrotate is not
> > present, in which case th
On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 09:37:23PM +, Steve Haslam wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 10:26:03PM +0100, Gergely Madarasz wrote:
> > I see... so I think there should be some policy about logrotate...
>
> I agree.
>
> My position, FWIW, is that packages should depend on logrotate unless
> they pr
On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 10:26:03PM +0100, Gergely Madarasz wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Steve Haslam wrote:
> > Hmm.. actually, there's quite a variation on how packages relate to
> > logrotate: all of Depends, Recommends and Suggests are used.
> >
>
> I see... so I think there should be some po
(debian-policy CC-ed)
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Steve Haslam wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 10:10:41PM +0100, Gergely Madarasz wrote:
> > > mailman installs a file in /etc/logrotate.d but doesn't depend on
> > > logrotate- which means the logs are silently not rotated.
> >
> > it actually recommend
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